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  1. I didnt. But to be honest, i dont want to either. All my life I have been told how great sikhi is and how it was first religion to be egalitarian. First i read accounts by our own people. But they seem like bragging. Then theres accounts by british and muslims about how brave and amazing we were. But after awhile it just becomes wish fulfillment. Especially after the reality. My own father who taught me these sikhi ideals is a big jatt casteist and a ruthless business man and a badal supporter. He had to realize to succeed in life, ideals dont help (not without lots of bhagti). I know sikhi was meant to he great. And its teachings are amazing. But what if you just want to be normal? What if ur too weak to follow that path? And what if the rest of the world has already implemented all of sikhi ideals leaving the sikhs laughably behind.
  2. My mistake. I didnt know you were incapable of looking into it yourself. Spoon feeding is difficult to do virtually.
  3. They say you can do Laavan the paath daily and ardaas for a good wife. But also look for good girls in strict, conservative families. Usually those families aligned with a samparda or a jatha. Like taksal or nanaksar. But be vigilant, sometimes the girls can decieve their parents. Also you can ask a respected Babaji in an organization or jatha to look for a rishta. This is how my sister got married. Because he will know other good, religious families, he will find you those type of ppl. But regardless, it is your responsibility to do a thorough background check and determine compatibility. Also i think you are a bit young to be married. Enjoy your sirdardi less, responsibility less days. And start earning kamaii. Start doing early amrit vela, nitnem of all of panj granthi, after school do 5 japji sahibs a day, at least 1 sukhmani sahib daily. 20 mins simran before sleeping. And you can use this time to learn. Skills like tabla, martial arts, coding, penny stocks, yoga, archery, gatka, cooking, langar seva, welding, woodcrafting. Listen to katha of all of guru granth sahib ji, read all of sooraj parkash by reading one sakhi a day. Read sikh books from authors like bhai veer singh, bhai randheer singh in english ir panjabi. Go join taksaal or a nihung jatha for a summer. Attend sikhi camps worldwide. Have fun, widen your horizons before you become a family man.
  4. Just to nitpick, it was actually bhai gurdaas jis faith in himself that made him waver. His tuk said, If the guru tests his sikh, a sikh should not waver. After his tribulations and forgiveness by the the guru, he changed it to If the Guru tests a sikh, what can the poor sikh do? But that is a mindset, the sikhs have lost. We used to say only Guruji knows about any intrepretation of bani. As for Babas and gursikhs,.people were inspired by them but knew Bhulan andar sabko, abhul guru kartaar. And sikhs used to have their own panchait to give tankhaah and other punishments to each other.
  5. Its mentioned multiple times. For example in Sukhmani sahib. The astpadhi about bhagauti. Also Jat Pahara Dheeraj Pauri in japji sahib. But mostly it is summarized as the opposite of the panj chor so sat santokh daya dharam pyaar nimarta. Sehaj etc
  6. You should post on what's happening. Rarely even come to this section.
  7. I think that might be allegory or other figurative device. They say to make ppl relate to a story, u write it as if it happened locally. Most of dasam granth uses alot of allusions and other figurative devices to make ancient myths more interesting to the contemporary audience. Thats what the dasam granth scholar Dr Harbhajan singh said. (We brought him to do a couple of lectures in CA to stem the anti dasam granth camp) But who knows? It could be real?
  8. In america lots of panjabi and sikhs work in Turkey farms and chicken packing houses. Called foster farms. The killed chicken comes in frozen and they hack at it into smaller pieces. My grandpa worked on a turkey farm. He would raise thousands of chicks. They would be sent for slaughter when older. Then he would raise the new ones. Didnt actually kill them. Just raised them. Ppl from the other side of the family made fun of him alot. And it stinks there. Hundreds of birds packed into these huge warehouses. Like my dad says in america the economy is just meat alcohol and drugs. Thankfully we r the first generation born here. So we dont have to do jobs like that.
  9. The being able to concentrate is the biggest reason for a Male. Otherwise get so sidetracked with thoughts, some might forget. Also it's a time out to the mind, like just have to do this amount. It's not forever https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRBvCXj-L19Y%26list%3DPLJnurSQbL2qa8eJcAbY_6maD92dpLqPTk%26index%3D928&ved=2ahUKEwjh7du2767nAhXdKDQIHROlARIQwqsBMAF6BAgFEAk&usg=AOvVaw2AcRwQkcZ42cy_RDKAUVKR
  10. Ask something in ardaas. God is your father. It behooves you to ask him for help. Beg him. Also if you did web development. Keep studying online. Learn coding,.IT security etc. There r many youtube videos about ppl who keep their skills up to date via online education and some find work online See those videos and what they did.
  11. Was there any other segments talking about his relationship with his brother or about bhai jugraj singh rather than the controversies?
  12. This is only focused on western sikhs. S: we are mostly panjabi/Indian. So we share the same language, background and geographical issues.we mostly believe in similar things. Compare to muslims and Christians our problems are more narrow. We have these massive gurdwara everywhere. And gurdware were used by gaddars in 1900s to collect funds and support independence as well as 1984 support.Also most sikhs want sikhs to be United. And it is easy to spot patterns and judge people. We have two tiers of people: The professionals doctors, lawyers ppl in offices/retail, teachers; businessmen store owners, gas owners; and labor ppl truck drivers, construction workers. The citizens and the illegals. The 4th generation vs the freshies. The amritdharies (religious) vs monas (nonreligious). The traditional vs modern. The missionary vs orthodox. Rural vs urban. Jatt vs non jatt. Panthic centered vs self centered. Materialistic vs spiritual. Most panjabi are either hard working or have enough social support from family that won't end up as losers. In america there is a growth of coach potato sons who just play video games. Parents will just marry them to RN nurse from india and they set for life. And there won't be any incels due to arranged marriage. W: because we r mostly panjabi. There are no resources for nonpanjabis. But they are growing slowly. Each tier only thinks about themselves they dont empathize with the other. And we hate the opposite side that we dehumanize them. Citizens look down on illegals and take advantage of them. Amritdharis stick to themselves. Monas think we r radicalizing the youth and are too backwards. Parchaar is geared toward turning ppl amritdhari or talking to sikhs. Typical panjabi parents are only worried abt their children education and wealth. While sikh family only care about bana and what ppl will say without giving their kids a wholesome childhood and enough experience to live in the world freely. Also most sikhs want sikhs to be United but for all sikhs to be the same and follow them. O: sikhs mostly anywhere are ready to follow a leader that makes sense and believes similar to them. Like bhai jugraj singh. So if we could have a leader that everyone thinks is on their side. But addresses issues of everyone, it will help unite the Panth. We have a chance. Also if we could do something about fixing panjab. Like starting businesses there. Like a waste management business. Providing filtered water. Solar panels etc If we could have parchaariks that address the materialistic and spiritual aspect. That would solve problems. If we could have parchaariks for sehajdharies sikhs. That said you dont want to keep hair or take amrit, fine. But then what makes you sikh? You must do these things at least to call yourself sikh without fraud:. Japji sahib daily. 5 mins required simran. Dharm di Kirat. No selling alcohol etc. 5% daswandh. Basically our parchaariks focus so much preaching on what sikhs cant do. That no one explains what sikhs do, what sikhs are. We need to build up loyalty. The only way to do that is to get sikhs to realize the issues each hbk is facing and help address them. That will build up a sense of community instead of competition. In the olden days, even non amritdharis stayed away from smoking, drinking, and had character. T: No difference of opinion allowed. No discussions allowed. If the dasam granth debate had happened peacefully, so many ppl would have learned more. Instead we just ban ppl and get emotional. We retaliate with the sword when the pen is mightier. We need to bring back the sikhi intellectual culture where debate was allowed and ambiguity was taught. Like in our teekas it says some say This sakhi happened here while other say at this place. Because of this we are in danger of becoming too easily controllable and flammable. Ppl get tired of protesting dhundha then darshan Singh then dhadrianwala Stop hating and loving politicians. Yes badal huni are corrupt. So will be the next person who sits there. America can still run with a trump in office. Why cant we just use the politicians we have. Why do we got to boycott them and lose our control over them? When we protested rajoana, badal huni went to central govt to ask for clemency. As long as they do what we want, fine. Dont get so personal with them If we dont let the more liberal and modern sikhs join in the discussion. They will become coconut, convert. Our gurudware are becoming emptier. Youth engagement is low. If gurudware had like a kids day with langar but then also debate about is abortion allowed, are LGBTQ ppl, what threats we face from Christians and muslims, is sikhi spiritual?. And had a panel from both sides with a formal debate and voting at the end. . Engagement from the youth would go up. Biggest threat is losing our homeland. From emigration. And foreign immigration.
  13. In the 1857 mutiny, would we want to be known as participants of the Rioting, looting, and mistreatment of british ladies that went on? Yeah war always has casualties, but like maskeen ji said about 84. It better to be bhola (innocent, victim) then a dhokeddar(cheater, aggressor). And in ww1, we or at least i think the indian Congress party did ask for concessions from Britain that helping in ww1, will result in independence. So lots of indians volunteered. In ww2, we would have been known as Japanese and Hitler sympathizers if we had pulled out like the faujis who followed Bose I think. Ofc its dumb to care about labels when it's our independence at risk. But having the narrative of being the good guy helps alot for the future generations. Look at how hard the muslims struggle to explain their religion and terrorists. And one of kartar singh sarabhas jobs was to recruit faujis to the gaddar movement. So having faujis is a possible benefit, you just have to wrest control off of them from the enemy. But to be honest, most Sikhs were probably just trying to make a living and had despaired of sikh independence and rule after the infighting between ranjit singhs heirs and between the diff rajas. To convince them to actually put their future into revolutaries hands was asking a bit much. Esp against the most powerful kingdom. It's like now. Most sikhs care abt going to the west. Instead of staying and fighting for panjab. And the sikhs in the west could pool their resources to solve most problems in panjab. And ppl are too tired from the kharkhoo times to take referendum 2020 seriously. And no sikh trusts that we can run a successful country all due t ok nour baises towards gurdwara committees.
  14. It sucks because panjab is changing. What with the biharis moving in and smoking every where and now the Christian's. And sikhs still wanting to go valait. All I think we can really do is make sure we dont sell our ancestral land. And if we dont have any to buy some. Which sucks for the locals because prices skyrocket and land is useless. But who knows wat will happen in the west with the right and nationalism on the rise? We dont want to become the Jews in the next century. A nation of immigrants whose land is preoccupied and overtaken by foreigners. I hope all the middle aged ppl. ( the ones in their 50s )will want to retire in panjab in the next 10 to 20 years. It will hopefully stem the change.
  15. And so? This viewpoint is being spread by right wing. There was even an essay saying suffragettes were domestic terrorists. Its laughable to point that out as a bad thing as a sikh. What with the sikhs' history with weapons, freedom fighters, revolutions. Even the west supported any and all freedom fighters until the guerilla fighters started targeting innocent civilians like the air india bombing and south american villages. I mean any injustice that has no legal or societal recourse should be fought with weapons and violence.
  16. Not2Cool2Argue

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    Sikhi is not a rule book. That you can do this or and not that. We have been given a brain and a conscience, we should be able to figure it out. The less addicting stuff we do the better. So the less video games, movies, sec, entertainment the better. But some people will become depressed with such a life. So do the minimum you can. The more addicting stuff you do, you will be pulled into it and your mind will not be able to focus on naam simran and Gurbani. So ask yourself about everything, will this just be a good time or will it interfere with my amrit Vela and nitnem. Do I feel like I just think about this during paath, then I should decrease it. Also about oral and other stuff you asked about. It is not hygienic as you will be exchanging body fluids. Of course with only 1 lifetime partner the danger is less but heres a story: there used to be herpes 1 and herpes 2. Herpes 1 gives u cold sores near ur lips. And herpes 2 was considered genital herpes but now these viruses are indistinguishable probably due to oral. With bdsm you are feeding Ahankaar and anger. But you can say it is playacting etc. So best to avoid. But there are not forbidden. Use your judgement. As for sexting, your phone can be made public. A kid can accidentally access it etc. Maybe indulge in this stuff and get it out of ur system and then refocus ur mind on the important stuff. Also best to avoid this stuff when trying to conceive. As the environment can affect the personality and type of child one can get. And as sikhs we ofc want the most spiritual and dynamic souls as future sikhs. So it is advised that parents do alot of of good deeds and paath to welcome a good soul.
  17. From the snaps you posted, Anita seems like a good author. That was smart to talk about the lascar plight and history before bringing in Sophia's efforts. British and American people seem to have treated everyone badly from the indentured Irish, african slaves, to asian immigrants. While I think it may have had to do with race. I think it also has to do with the times. The british also treated their sailors pretty badly what with impressment and beatings, not to mention the lower classes in the factories and workhouses. I think it was due to greed (everyone was trying to become rich through exploitation so having a conscious could be costly), tough times (famines and overcrowding) and also a sense of superiority (upper class hatred middle class for being too mercenery, The middle class hated the low class for being too loose with morals (thievery, single moms) I am glad that Sophia helped her country folk regardless of religion and caste and status. (Although despite what you say about duleep singh, he did seem to forget about the lascars) But I wonder if we Sikhs wouldnt have been just as bad as the british if we had an empire that lasted. I mean so far in panjab, we have failed to improve the infrastructure, sanitation, and equality due to greed, exploitation, and superiority due to caste and 'morals'
  18. That's easy to answer. Kings are born from women because women can't be kings Also Guruji said not to treat women badly. But did not say they were equal.
  19. I nominate puzzled. Call it fashion police. And everytime u go to india. Take pics of the worst ones. Then do a commentary on it. And give a few tips too. And make sure u keep mentioning that in the west this is camp/gay and laughable. Hopefully it will get thru. I bet you'd get lots of views That can be sikhsangat's contribution to the Panth: Stop panjab and youth from being too camp
  20. You dont have to go pesh BUT you must stop. When you stop, you will have withdrawal. And if you keep using steroids you will kill your adrenals which make natural hormones now. Then you will be dependent on the shots like diabetes ppl are. Also who knows what's in the shots you take. Sometimes natural hormones are taken from animals. Some are synthetic. There was a case I knew of where a guy did steroids and ended up with TB (tuburcolous disease) in his spine and brain. Despite max treatment, he still uses a cane to walk. And he is not even 30. You dont know what's in these illegal street products. Could be really dirty. So that's like taking jooth. I think anything injected should be forbidden for sikhs. Unless its medically necessary and sterile. Also pills too. We make sure that our food is sucha and dont eat out. But will take pills from anywhere. On second thought, do go pesh. Because this comes under nashe/drug kurehit. Plus hopefully, God will be merciful and you won't get any infections in ur heart or anywhere from injections.
  21. Purva could be poorab which is east And pukhsa could be pakhsh which is side/related to So the eastern viewpoint
  22. Beautiful! I think Islam is probably the first step after human birth. It teaches one about faith in One god. Then perhaps christianity it teaches one morality like be kind, love etc. Then buddhism teaches us about spirituality that there's more than just pain and pleasures of Earth and heaven and hell. Or considering sikhs state these days. Buddhism might even be the ultimate. So true lol. Those very rule adhering, only one way is correct prolly have a sunni muslim background. Whereas the dil saaf Hona chaheeda have a Sufi one. Jk. But I wonder if that's why there r different sects in sikhi too. Cuz everyone's at different levels and different things resonant with them. We are all judged based on our actions. If you are a sikh and are a robber , you are not forgiven just for being sikh. There are four options: temporary hell, temporary heaven, then you go into reincarnation. If good deeds then as a human. If bad then back to joona, animals. If you are very good, saintly, then you get to meet God and escape reincarnation. If you believe in a religion, maybe your prophet can intercede for you. But mostly we believe in karma. As you do to others, so will you reap. Basics of Sikhi YouTube channel has videos that answer this question
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