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  1. I am sorry. But i dont think he ruined the girls life. She is getting a kid. She is getting taken care of. What more does the woman need? Romance is such a western concept. Also its not only Ajeets fault. The girl also agreed to the marriage. Also, we should be celebrating that our culture in india is able to "fix" gays or at least let them be part of society. The catholic church with their conversion therapy and the mormons who brainwash the gay men to marry and have families, could only wish they had the success indians do. The gay men themselves are choosing to marry and having kids. Ofc its due to societal pressure but in this case a good cause. I mean what other alternative do you want for gay men? To join the priesthood and then have scandals erupt years later as the catholics did? Because there r so many gay men in the catholic church, they have their own political group called the lavendar mafia. They vote for liberal reforms destroying the traditions of the church , and have tried to hide the sexual scandal and let the offenders go free. Or do u want there to be a gay scene like in USA where gay men have the highest rates of HIV and promiscuity? Ofc we can have gay marriage so they can be monogamous and not have HIV etc. But what about our religious ceremonies? Its just not possible.. So marriage without love on both sides is perfect. In the olden days, arranged marriages were such that u were thankful if ur chosen spouse was healthy. One of my great aunts in India, is still bitter because she was married of to an infertile man. Because he had mumps as a kid which attacks the testes. Another of my great uncles family only found out after their first kid that his wife has epilepsy. They were angry that the wifes family hid it. But what was the wifes family to do? Noone would have married the girl otherwise.. My 2nd cousin married a girl from canada with bone issues. They break with any weight. So she is wheel chair bound and now their daughter also cant walk. But he was glad to marry her so he could come to the west. Marriage has always been a transanction in the east. And each side tries to hide the defects and get the highest price. There is a mentally retarded man at our gurudwara. And he is getting married to a girl from india. The girl from india is quite ok with it. She will be able to help her whole family to the west and she says she will get to lead a pious life with no kids and do seva of the guy. So i dont get ur guys attitude. Wat else could he have done? I guess he could have told her during the engagement talk or advertised for a lesbian...
  2. The only place I kniw that Guruji has mentioned the sahibzades' shaheedi would be Zafarnama. It is the letter Guruji wrote to Aurangzeb, the tyrant ruler of the time. It is a victory letter, so there is no mention of grief. But other than that, even in Dasam Bani, some of which is autobiographical, there is no mention of the shahaadat. Although i think there is mention of Guru Tegh Bahadar Sahibs shaheedi, but i might be confusing it with sooraj parkaash. ( im thinking of tegh Bahadar ke chalat bhayo jagat ko sok, hai hai hai sab jag bhayo, jai jai jai sir lok)
  3. By practice. Put urself in situations that are scary to u. If u have public speaking fear, then do speeches. Also join martial arts and participate in competitions. It will simulate the adrnaline rush u get in danger. Whenever u feel scared to do something, like speak up, stand up for someone, to do a good deed, see if its good and do it. Also practice the mindset, i am a son/daughter of Guru Gobind Singh ji so have nothing to fear. Try to walk confidently and think that
  4. "What kind of punjabi are u if u dont drink?" Seriously??? Thats wats holding u back? U cant let losers like thay define wat punjabi people are. We used to he known for our hard work, anakh, and safety of all womenkind. And now these losers r redefining panjabis as drunks? Also what you do at home in the evening isnt any concern of theirs. You can have enough freedom to not drink at home at least. And if ur reputation bothers u,.u can drink in public likr weddings. But what would be better is if u say, it takes a strong will to quit smoking and drinking. And very few ppl manage it. I am gonna try and if u think im a sissy for quitting. I dare u guys to try. U wont last 1 day. That way u will also have accountability. You see to quit or start a new habit, u need accountability. So u should annouce it to someone, ur fiance, ur friends, or family that u will be quitting. This will help u not give into cravings as these ppl will laugh if u give in. Or u can place 100 dollars to charity or gurudwara or someone u hate, every can/bottle u drink. Also, please sober up before u get married. Ur wife will be horrified by ur drinking. Not only does it make u look ugly with a pot belly and fat around the face and red eyes and yellow teeth early in life. Alcohol creates many problems in a marriage. From fighting to domestic violence. U say u get violent from drinking. Wat if ur wife tells u to stop drinking and u hit her while ur drunk? That will be a hellish life. Quit while ur ahead. Also research all the bad things alcohol does to ur body, brain, and social relationships.
  5. One of the reasons cited by Sant S Maskeen ji is the take down of mahants. He said some mahants were bad but no all. And mahants ensured proper maryada and vidhya at gurudwaras. He says during mahants time, there was katha 2 times a day, once of ithihaas like suraj parkash in the evening and the other of Gurbani. Later when SGPC took over they had paid granthis etc, and the caliber of granthis and gurudelwara caretakers went down. Maskeen ji talks abt this in his book Gurudware de Sanbaand Baare or some similar title. It is avaikabe as an audio book and online book too. I forge where though. He also said that SGPC did no favors to us. It replaced mahants with corrupt, drunken, shaved prabandiks and committees and elections. I dont know if he is completely right tho. The mahants of Nanakana sahib were atrocious. They assaulted a lady and when the sangat protested, they joined forces with gore. Also the mahants at Harmandar sahib were casteist. So i guess SGPC should have also created a school for future granthis or had a deal with taksaal, to send some graduates to fill granthi positions. With all its faults, even now Taksal is abke to produce shardaawan paathis who at least know abt sooraj parkash and some santhiya and suchimata. Also lack of good granthis which was the mahants were, probably lead to an absence of local religious elders, villagers could go to and that lead to other babas poaching into panjab. Ur theory abt, some sikhs being simpletons and some being high caliber, educated ppl also makes sense. But in the olden days, the simpletons had good leaders to follow and good faith. With elections and prabandhik comitteea, politics got into religious institutions, and religious character and knowledge were no longer a requirement. I was horrified to learn of the Sudanese revolution. I was sure it was run by uneducated, idle youth and would plunge the country into decades long war like in yemen, sirya etc. But i was surprised to learn the revolution was lead by professional organisation of Sudan. Its is made up of esucated ppl in professional career of lawyers, professors etc. They are the ones making demands, speeches, and rallying the common folk in peaceful protests. And the most important part is that the common ppl listen to them. When asked abt how long they would protest, the commoners said, We trust CPW the organisation. We will come to protest until they tell us to stop. And until the organization itself says the demands have been met. So simpleton ppl can be the main strength of a army/religion if they are united and lead in the right path. That is why sikh history also looks so well upon sikh jathedaars too and why mostly only their accounts are known to us. They probably were the best of the panth at that time. That was the strength of the panth: Not only unity but unity under good learned leaders. This is illustrated by Bhai Taru singhs saakhi. Bhai subheg singh went to the dal khalsa on behalf of the tyrant king. Sikhs didnt brand him traitor but listened to him. Also afterwards, sikhs took the nawabi on bhai subhegs singhs behest. Nowadays, sikhs would brand Bhai Subheg singh, someone not fighting with the sikhs and in the enemys government as a traitor, coward or mere career politician. We dont appreciate scholars, politicians, skilled artisans. Only warriors.Under Guru Gobind Singh Ji Bhai Nand Lal.was as respected as the warriors, if not more so. Also Sant Jarnail Singh ji also talked with Profeesr Kapoor singh. Ofc bhai subheg singh was a high caliber sikh, who put sikhi above all and was able to give shaheedi too. Nowadays sikh leaders/politicians are not to be trusted at all ofc, but we do need diversity in our skills and unity at the same time. And blind faith or blind followers/simpletons are.not a bad thing if we can manage them. They will always be there, so sooner we learn to herd them the better.
  6. Theres no probably about it. It was real. After the anglo-sikh wars, all sikh soldiers had to turn in their weapons to the gore. Those who refused had to go baagi. They became the dakus of those times. (Theres actually a very well written fictiinalized account of the time. The book is called Teja Singh. I forget the author. But the author interviewed the elder generation from maharja ranjits singhs time and after and used that to base his novel on. Its really poignant and describes the last days of the raj too) And after citing our religious requirements, gore probably allowed 6 inch kirpans...
  7. Just do paath with full concentration on the meanings. And then do ardaas after paath. In the ardaas is when u should think of her and focus on her. Not during paaath. Also in ardaas you say this japji sahib (or which ever paath it was) da paath was done for my wife **** Kaur. Please give all phal (fruit/reward/) toward her. Waheguruji please bless her and have nadar on her. She is in your hands, please help her. You can even take a hukamnama after u do this ardaas. Many ppl who have done ardaas for deceased ppl have received assurance from hukamnama and guruji. I did too when my grandma.passed away. Here is one such example: http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,30186 Just ask waheguruji to help and protect her dont ask for her suffering to be given to you or anything abt changing her reincarnation etc. It is better not to meddle in Gods plans. Really, we can not see the long term consequences. So just ask for protection and help. Also most ppl do like 40 days of paath. So like 40 days of 1 sukhmani sahib daily or 40 days of 5 japji sahibs daily etc. I would suggest u also do a sehaj paath.(Sehaj paath is the reading of all of Guru Granth Sahib Ji from ang/page 1 to 1430 but at our own pace.) I had never done one before either. So wat i did was i got a recording of a full sehaj paath at the slowest spped that i liked (i suggest bhai balbir singh or bhai swaran singh on youtube or sikhsangeet.com) and then went to srigranth.org. And either followed along with reading panjabi/gurmukhi or the english transliteration or my favorite reading the meaning while listening to the recitations. I used to listen to 7-10 angs daily. Once u have finished 1 sehaj paath u can do ardaas It helps you get fluent in reading gurbani and understand it. Someday u will be able to read a whole sehaj paath by urself. Ofc u can do ardaas even after just 1 paath. Also do try simran/meditation too.
  8. Do not the vedas mention reincarnation? Do they not teach that this body nay this world is maya an illusion? If so, then ur lineage and ur genetics are temporary garbs u r wearing to live out ur karma. Next life u might be another race. The conquerors of india, muslims and british, all thought indians to be ugly and inferior race. Why r u taking on their ideology? At any point in history, all races had the chance to be more powerful and advanced. U r hating on south indians, but they are a more purer race. The north indians especially the jats are a mix of all the invaders. Also south india is more educated and more cleaner than north india. In addition, the north indians which u call aryans have already mixed in with the dravidians. So we already are mongrels, mixed race. The pure aryans (which came from central asia probably iran) will look down upon ur pure raced north indians. However, I do agree that people should not intermarry between castes, cultures or races. Not because some races are prettier or more superior. But because we need to preserve diversity. We need to preserve all races and cultutes and languages. Globalization and intermarriage is a threat to diversity and cultures. This should be done by teaching our children about the responisbility to continue our traditions and how great they are or were. Not by teaching them how superior one race is over another. Also too much of marrying into the same caste could lead to genetic problems. So about 5% of intermarriages should be encouraged. Since that percent will happen naturally, no need to enforce anything.
  9. Very interesting. Thanks for posting. It is well researched but the sources used are biased.
  10. Prinicipal Harbhajan Singh And Giani Sher Singh Bhai Pinderpal Singh has read alot of ithihaas, although he is not a scholar per se. Also Bhai Sukha Singh Uk is doing some research and has read alot of ithihaas
  11. I dont know where to find the rest either. Bit one important thing I learned is that oppression of nonmuslims and their death is promoted in islam and has been part of their faith for centuries.
  12. I dont know. I think nations are beautiful. Its like a family on a grander scale. Its ppl who you share identity with, people who understand u and among whom u can walk without standing out. There is no mistrust. If u share the culture withthe nation then u understand the unspoken rules and its easier. I think sikhi has nothing to do with nations. If society is elevated beyond nations. Thats great but sikhi should not demolish nations until society is ready for it. And not advocate for open borders, until society itself forms them. When we try to enforce a good and noble concept, it never works. It backfires. Think of america forcing democracy and freedom on countries not ready for it. The french educated elite forcing democracy in the French Revolution. Democracy is good, but ppl werent ready for it. And it set democracy back for years as ppl used the french revolution to mock democracy and call it mob rule. Same thing with communism. It is a great concept, that we should all be equal etc. But in reality, it has never worked, as it was forced and the population was not ready for it. I think only in satyug can communism work, as capitalism is so engrained in us. Currently with brexit and the refugee crisis, and the mexican-US border wall issue, its showing us that most nations dont want open borders. Although politicians have been trying to implement it and it is back firing and ppl r become more and mlre racist and nationalist to counter their governments open border policies. I do recognize the feeling ur feeling. The expansive love for humanity and for everyone and the variety in ppl seems beautiful. This feeling is beautiful but fleeting. Enjoy it, go volunteer. But dont base politics around it. In fact, sikhi is very practical and against open borders. Its important for sikh ppl to be in power and to maintain that power thru force. Raj bina neh dharam chale hai, dharam bina sab dale male hai Because if u have a ooen border policy, the few bad ppl can ruin it for the majority, so ots always important thay good ppl (hopefully sikhs) always have power. If the good become powerless, dictators and bad ppl will jump into the power vacuum.
  13. I dont like his policies. And i think he just follows the crowd. But as a sikh, its important to support other sikhs. We shouldnt be pulling each other down all the time. If u cant count on sikhs ppls help, who else is there? In an ideal world, ur race and creed shouldnt matter esp in polotics. But in reality it does.
  14. I found a really cool account of Timur relating how he conquered india. He was brutal.but he lists in detail every city he invaded and how many people he killed. But one can see how islam motivated him and his hatred for idolators: https://www.ibiblio.org/britishraj/Jackson5/chapter09.html Heres an excerpt from his infamous sack of delhi: For these various reasons a great number of fierce Turkish troops were in the city. When the soldiers proceeded to apprehend the Hindus and infidels who had fled to Delhi, many of them drew their swords and offered resistance. The flames of strife thus lighted spread through the entire city from Jahan-panah and Siri to Old Delhi, consuming all they reached. The savage Turks fell to killing and plundering, while the Hindus set fire to their houses with their own hands, burned their wives and children in them, and rushed into the fight and were killed. The Hindus and infidels of the city showed much alacrity and boldness in fighting. The amirs who were in charge of the gates prevented any more soldiers from entering Delhi, but the
  15. Its a fascinating topic. You can find lots of topics on it on this forum. Heres one: Heres some broad things which you probably already know: (an article) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sikh24.com/2015/12/10/inspiration-bhai-vir-singhs-thoughts-on-meditation-naam-simran/amp/ And if u want to go deeper: (a book) https://www.vidhia.com/index.php?q=f&f=%2FBhai+Raghbir+Singh+Ji My favorite sikh scholar. Alot of his letters and books are on youtube check them out. This is a short 2 min video. https://youtu.be/WsUNTEBqgEI
  16. Maybe therapy? Try journaling to see why u need attention. I hate attention, I love being an observor and gettig other ppl to open up and talk abt themselves. Maybe i can tell u wat i get out of it. Stay quiet, and just listen to ppl, sometimes u can predict what they will say or do next. Its pretty cool. Otherwise see if theyre body language matches what they are saying. People watching is more fun in a crowd with strangers, u can make stories about them. Also once u get attention, notice how u feel. Happy? And why? Just notice how u feel. Start observing urself. Dont judge. Dont try to stop urself for 2 days. Just botice wat u do and how it makes u feel. People say when u start noticing and paying attention, u realize wat the root cause is. And it helps breaks bad habits and addictions. At first, u will notice after u already did something to get attwntion. But if u keep at it, u will start to notice before u do any action. And then u will ntoce when the thought e ters ur head to get attention. Then u have to work on defeating that thought. Sometimes u will lose, dont get sad or mad at urself. Just notice it and why it happened. And say next time, i will beat it. It will work. I used to have intense anger problems. Where when i wohld try to control my anger, it would build up and just explode and i would lash out. Now im more relaxed. Also remember to do ardaas, every time u fail, do ardaas. And each time u di sarshan of guruji, do beanti.
  17. I dont think we should hate on the already hated. Or those already fighting a losing war. Most ppl hate the muslims or are a little distrustful. The best solution is to stop immigration into western countries. Because the immigration is not stopping and most ppl want it to. Ppl think the govts and laws are broken and take things into their own hands. And thats when things like attacks in New Zealand etc happen. However with syria and iraq destroyed, its gonna be very hard to stop immigration. People dont really have a place to go back to. Also it seems like isis is gonna lose. But in its death throes, they will cause lots of damage like in sri lanka.
  18. He has not broken his amrit. Bur t he has sinned and he will have to pay for it. Also our scriptures say that the Guru does not help those who cheat and steal.
  19. You are in a big dilemma, dharam shankat. But if u think clearly, it can be solved. 1. Dont trust the girl, until u r completely sure. Find out more about the case that is against the family. Ask the girl, about it, then have ur family in india investigate. Find out if her version matches. If it is true, then forget the past and move on. 2. Recognize u lived a priveleged life. You were born into a sikh family and in a rich country. Some of us have parents, that beat us up if we dont lie, like they tell us to. Some of our parents, yelled at us, if we gave money to a begger. Children of these types of parents, dont have strict morals, we act on a survival instinct. We do what is easy for us, not what is right. Or we dont believe the law to be right, but.only its implications. Lots of our parents, had to do hera feei to get their relatives to the west. Like sham marriages, fake birth certificates etc. While they are lying and breaking the law, they are also helping people. So for people like us, we didnt get a chance to be good. We werent given a clean slate. You have met and seen ur wife. Do you get along with her? Does she have good manners and habits? Is she a good person? I think the fact that she admits that she lied and that due to parental pressure, means she is a good person. She had to decide between listening to her parents or lying. And her parents scared her, saying she will be rejected. And you are mistaken, if you think people tell the truth to vichola or during engagement. People hide allthe bad things, so they are not rejected. It is practical and normal. One of my au ts had epilepsy disease or seizures. Her husband family only found out after 2 kids. They were mad, but what could they do? As I said u lived a privaleged life. You did not have to choose between poverty and goodness, or being rejected and telling the truth. I have noticed people that are good. That have never sinned. They have 1 big flaw and 1 sin they always commit. They judge other people alot. And they deem people who sin as worthless, disgusting human beings. You know as sikh people, forgiveness matters. And not thinking low of ppl. Also, maybe the reason you havent sinned yet is because you havent been tempted. Maya is very powerful, one can only escape her clutches, by the grace of God. So you have only been good, because you didn have hardships. Also, before divorcing her, please take into consideration if the girls life will be ruined. Will anyone else want to marry her? And will she not have to hide and lie abt her divorce from you to get married again? Will this one mistake if not forgiven, make more mistakes? Will not you, also be known as a divorcee? I am not saying ruin ur life, to save the girls life. But if u leave her, do something for the girl, so she can survive.
  20. 1 reason is that its like an arms race. As women try to outdo each other. So each has to dress more and more crazier to stand out. Same with makeup, if a women doesnt wesr makeup, she will look the ugliest. So just to keep up with the beauty standard. Another reason could be that, people are becoming desensitized to the amt of skin being seen. And it doesnt seem bad to them Also it seems so true that sharam and dharam has totally disappeared from the west. Even our youth are becoming the same. Some of the pda shown in marriage pics is so cringy. And the extra makeup vs the ghund of the past. They say u need sharam for dharam to exist.
  21. But that is the point. Meat grown in the lab is not from a violent death. But personally, the composition of meat is very high protein and fat. So i think that has an affect on the body
  22. Salok is the beginning. And astpadi the end. So each time start with a salok and then when finishing repeat the last 2 lines of the astpadi 2 x and thwn say fateh. Next time begin from the next salok. Hope i wasnt too late
  23. It would be terrible. How would we have fared in a military ruled state? Pakistans always have military coups where dictators rule for 10+ years. Plus we would fear suicide bombers. I think pakistan was listed as the country with most suicide bombings in public places. Also taliban stopped women from attending schools in the frontier areas. And we would live in a place where paan would be spit in the streets.
  24. The movie chaar sahibzadey part 2, i think its called banda singh bahadur. The 3D one. Shows the saakhi from sooraj parkash. Its nice saakhi abt how guruji teaches mataji to deal with her grief, i call it the choori saakhi. You can watch the movie or read the original from sooraj parkash. Sooraj parkash is the history of the 10 gurus and the khalsa written in 1800s. Its one of our most authentic and oldest historical sources. You might be able to find it on ikatha.com or vidhiya.com. they might even have english translations. You will have to search through it tho. Its at least 10 volumes. Or u can buy the hardcover books in english version from turiyacharity.com
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