luckysingh99

It has to be looked at very closely, and I spent some time doing some vichaar on this issue. It's probably beyond my understanding or depth, but I do have my own interpretation that may have helped me in my minuscule development, and this is most likely to change in the coming future. There is a difference between where gurbani may say GUR and GURU. I say this because we shouldn't take bani lightly and should pay dhyaan to every single word. I have often applied metaphors to shabads and later realized that the allegories are only when you see certain shabads on their surface and not their nirgun measures. I understand that GURU is referring to physical-sargun form of guru. This is the guru or teacher that can educate on how to see the light in or from the darkness. Whereas GUR is not sargun form, but it's neither the technique or tarikah as mentioned in the slides. (I disagree slightly with interpretation on the slides). In my opinion, the GURU is the tarikah, the one that shows the way to the GUR. The GUR is what you find and experience after you have been shown the way. Every approach goes from gross to subtle, sargun to nirgun, physical sareer to sukham sareer.

Embrace it. Death is beautiful. Death is the birth to newer Truth. Do kamayee, get naam and prepare for the satch

..and my name is prince

Your need to re-read the post as you've not understood the core point.

Pretty much agree here. It is a stage that one passes through as the praises and kirtan that occurs outside darbar of Akaal purakh is by the devi devtes and saints. Also agree that they can try to entice you and keep you bound in maya. This is one of Akaal purakhs tests to see whetther you will be stuck in the heavens or go all the way to merge. I know what your'e saying about not "seeing" them at first, because gurbani tells you to sing, listen and praise along with them and not to them. Much agree with harsharan's nice post as well as it's important to not get stuck on the way, but continue with pyaar on the single marg path to waheguru. However, just a slight technicality with your mention of lak chaurasi.....My understanding is that baikkunth, swarg lok, dev loks, heavens..etc are out of lakh chaurasi but not kaival mukht. ie. one is still bound to karams but not in the vicous chaurasi lak cycle. I believe they can bhog their karams by taking birth as human, and are able to do this by choice or they may remain in heavens doing sift salah of Waheguru.. Karams can only be bhogged as human or wiped by his grace. I know it's a little complicated, but it involves understanding who faces Dharamraj and is bound as per deeds (Chitr Gupt), and the devotees who work for Dharamraj. I think that you are on the same page with regards to difference in mukti from lak chaurasi and the total mukti from karams. I say this because I recall a past discussion on another topic but our understanding on this issue was similar? Hope you are doing well and progressing with bhagti.. This is the ONE chance to merge with the ONE

This is the key! The problem you have is that you are setting "conditions". This means that your efforts and kamayee are conditional, since you have a predetermined outcome. The idea is to make efforts without any conditions. It's got to be purely UNCONDITIONAL. Only then will it be TRUE love and devotion. As MisterrSingh suggested "what can you do for your Guru?" Simple answer is devotion, balihaarey..., give your head, ..sacrifice...Not just once,,.but again and again. Every time you do MATHA TEK, you should be offering your matt and head for Guru's Matt (GUR-MATT) , No moh, no lobh ..no attachments... just the desire for Guru's love. Keep offering your matt and self, so that guru may bless you with "mokh duar"

It's time to stop this baneful banter and reflect on the bani of Guru Nanak Dev ji...... ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੧ ॥ Salok mėhlā 1. Shalok, First Mehl: ਨਾਨਕ ਫਿਕੈ ਬੋਲਿਐ ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਫਿਕਾ ਹੋਇ ॥ Nānak fikai boli▫ai ṯan man fikā ho▫e. O Nanak, speaking insipid words, the body and mind become insipid. ਫਿਕੋ ਫਿਕਾ ਸਦੀਐ ਫਿਕੇ ਫਿਕੀ ਸੋਇ ॥ Fiko fikā saḏī▫ai fike fikī so▫e. He is called the most insipid of the insipid; the most insipid of the insipid is his reputation. ਫਿਕਾ ਦਰਗਹ ਸਟੀਐ ਮੁਹਿ ਥੁਕਾ ਫਿਕੇ ਪਾਇ ॥ Fikā ḏargėh satī▫ai muhi thukā fike pā▫e. The insipid person is discarded in the Court of the Lord, and the insipid one's face is spat upon. ਫਿਕਾ ਮੂਰਖੁ ਆਖੀਐ ਪਾਣਾ ਲਹੈ ਸਜਾਇ ॥੧॥ Fikā mūrakẖ ākẖī▫ai pāṇā lahai sajā▫e. ||1|| The insipid one is called a fool; he is beaten with shoes in punishment. ||1|| Discussion of this shabad would be a good idea if anyone is keen.

You should get chromosome 23 test or a similar ancestry DNA that may be available there. You will be surprised with the results, ...trust me!

There are a few answers, and it doesn't have much to do with diet. Firstly, the north west India has origins and settlers from a huge genetic pool. This is the same genetic pool from eastern europe and mostly the eastern jews. Punjabis have similar features such as heights, pointed noses, large eyes..etc, as these jews. There are a few theories and studied that support this and most of us have similar ancestry genetics as the eastern aryans. There was a Stanford sstudy someyears ago that focused on the punjabis genetic pools and there is also the Aryan Influx(or Invasion) Theory that also explains the gene similarities.

In the general maryada under Article XXIV, ..see below "Dishonoring of hair" ->which includes tampering of any sort and then part q3, specifically states "one who dyes his beard" The under mentioned four transgressions (tabooed practices) must be avoided: 1. Dishonoring the hair; 2. Eating the meat of an animal slaughtered the Muslim way; 3. Cohabiting with a person other than one’s spouse; 4. Using tobacco. In the event of the commission of any of these transgressions, the transgressor must get rebaptised. If a transgression is committed unintentionally and unknowingly, the transgressor shall not be liable to punishment. You must not associate with a Sikh who had uncut hair earlier and has cut it or a Sikh who smokes. You must ever be ready for the service of the Panth and of the gurduwaras (Sikh places of worship). You must tender one tenth of your earnings to the Guru. In short, you must act the Guru’s way in all spheres of activity. You must remain fully aligned to the Khalsa brotherhood in accordance with the principles of the Khalsa faith. If you commit transgressionof the Khalsa discipline, you must present yourself before the congregation and beg pardon, accepting whatever punishment is awarded. You must also resolve to remain watchful against defaults in the future. q. The following individuals shall be liable to chastisement involving automatic boycott: 1. Anyone maintaining relations or communion with elements antagonistic to the Panth including the minas (reprobates), the masands (agents once accredited to local Sikh communities as Guru’s representatives, sine discredited for their faults and aberrations), followers of Dhirmal or Ram Rai, etc. users of tobacco or killers of female infants. 2. One who eats/drinks leftovers of the unbaptised or the fallen Sikhs 3. One who dyes his beard 4. One who gives off son or daughter in matrimony for a price or reward 5. Users of intoxicant (hemp, opium, liquor, narcotics, cocaine, etc.) 6. One holding, or being a party to, ceremonies or practices contrary to the Guru’s way 7. One who defaults in the maintenance of Sikh discipline

We don't have to get too worked up with principles yam and niyam, as these virtues will begin to manifest with simran and gurbani. Goal of all schools is to teach students to get into Samadhi/ sunn samadh. Only from there can someone have the ultimate experience of Truth. Saas giraas is one of many techniques used in gurmat, and gurmat is devised in manners suitable for grishti jeevan and for a Sikh to be sant/sipahi (saint/soldier). If you are trying some abyaas approach, then I can give tips and suggestions relative to my own trial and errors, along with success rates.

I know. For me, abyaas is my utmost priority and my day to day is arranged around my abyaas, rather than trying to squeeze some jap in if one has time. It's a shame our people have these attitudes because I spent over 2 years asking and trying to find out what japna really is and how it could carry me. I was disappointed on many occasions when respectable Sikhs just closed the doors and wouldn't/couldn't answer. The Taoist's are one of a few that have same spiritual goals as sikhi..which is to meet "waheguru" in sachkhand. They call it seeing the "tao" when they get darshan of the almighty Ek onkar. .. Respect!

@JUSTAJATT My dear friend. I'm glad you've started to take the spiritual side seriously. I can tell you've climbed up a few notches and the Akath katha gyan is beginning to pour in. Good man!.... keep it up!

New York Gurdwaras have had famous fights before back in 2011 and 2005. I believe this one in Richmond Hill, has also had them before The other one with trouble was Baba makhan shah where the kirpans were drawn and Singhs were attacking with chimtas and shennas from the stage. Disgusting,... and then we expect NYPD to show respect.

Just power the damned phone off at set time every night. Don't turn it on until you are in some other part of the house or room the next day. Say, you could leave it in the kitchen and don't switch it on until you having morning tea or coffee. Phones, gadgets and all the EMF is bad, bad,... bad..Having Wi-Fi and all these radio waves is never going to benefit a Sikh. I have my own theories and evidence of how gadgets, wi-fi and EMF has affected my own abyaas, but I'm not going to get in detail now. When the forum is full of stuff that is not inspiring, then just disappear for a while. Especially, if you feel it's spiritually draining, then it's time to go try raise your consciousness.

I'd say that the inability to move symbolizes your own struggle in life. You may be quite strict on yourself and dominant with self discipline to make "practical" efforts. However, deep down you may feel that you are only making efforts towards waheguru in a ritualistic manner. You may feel that your heart and mind is not following the same physical discipline? Your sub-conscious is advising that you are paralyzing and halting your own spiritual growth. Lets say that your goal was to get to the gurdwara and do mathatek at first, and lets say that after the matha tek:you hoped to be in a higher spiritual state. This could be some kind of aim to making a higher connection with Guru sahib or sangat either by kirtan, paat or meditating .etc. Nevertheless, the truth from your subconscious is saying that you never really get past the first matha tek stage, and no higher connection follows. Unable to move whilst doing matha is where you drop all your inner energy and remain stuck. Your current position or state of emotions in daily life may also be the same, There are a couple of things to attempt to get you moving forward in life and developing further as a Sikh. These depend on your current phase in life. In spite of this, I strongly suggest doing ardas and asking for strength to progress with prem. Do ardas asking waheguru to help you absorb your "Mann and Chit" with the Ek Sachey patshah. Make this ardas priority rather than ardas for sukh, sat santokh, health..etc. When a sevak just longs for prem and jyog with Waheguru, then Waheguru automatically takes care of all your other issues. (I'm absolutely serious here, because this is the ultimate act of faith). All your life's pains and struggles will be taken care of if you truly offer yourself with utmost faith.

I know that this thread and post is about 13 years old, but it's never too late to answer the OP. The reference quoted in OP is from ang 1123 ngrI eykY nau drvwjy Dwvqu brij rhweI ] There are nine gates to the one city of the body; restrain your mind from escaping through them. iqRkutI CUtY dsvw dru KUl@Y qw mnu KIvw BweI ]3] When the knot of the three qualities is untied, then the Tenth Gate opens up, and the mind is intoxicated, O Siblings of Destiny. ||3|| ANSWER= The 3 qualities refers to the 3 modes or qualities of Maya. These are Satogun, Rajogun and Tamogun. Bhagat Kabirji is referencing these 3 qualities in the pangti. When these 3(tre-gunn) are untied, then the 4th state/Chautha padh is attained via passage through Dasam Duar.. Some posts above have mentioned the 9 doors or Naun Darwajey. Now, these 9 doors have to be closed shut before the gupt,10th door/Dasam duar can be opened. The Dasam opens.and then the sevak's consciousness passes through this and leaves behind the Tre-gunn maya and enters the abode of the 4th dimension Chautha Padh. Waheguru

Good stuff man.. keep it up!

Malcolm X met a small group of my grandfather's buddies in Smethwick. The blacks and apnay used to put up with a lot of racism back then, The newer generations have little idea what the Sikhs had to face pre-70's especially. At that time, especially in Smethwick; they weren't allowed to buy houses or even shop at some stores. I recall my father telling me that Malcolm X took a lot of racial insults and slurs from goray as he walked through some streets of Smethwick.

why cook or buy food, when you can get langar for free?

Well done, a true answer

Waheguru, Yes, I too recommend jkvlondon ji's advice and especially going slowly at your own pace. There a lots of other approaches to take at the same time such as well. I recommend writing a daily journal in a diary. Here, you want to try and document when the real negative bouts occur and what was you doing, who was talking, what you were thinking, was it someone that said something, ... what little event you feel gave the knock in emotions. All these journal logs will hopefully help uncover the roots of your weaknesses and negative emotions. Not sure where you are located, but I would recommend some no-medicinal therapy like CBT(Cognitive Behavoural Therapy) with a psychologist.

All I've heard is that this bani was compiled by babas and deras for seekers coming for their dukhs and treatments. Maybe it prevented a few from diverting to other paths and getting ripped off by fake healers/pandits?... ..I would hope so! The important fact is that ALL GURBANI can HEAL.... Gurbani is the TRUTH, the ultimate TRUTH revealed by Guru. For some of us and our buddhi, it is easier to read and contemplate shabads that somehow feel directly aligned with words like Dukh, Sukh, suffering, pain.,illness..,There is nothing wrong with this as long as it brings the suffering devotee closer to akaal purakh. We all come across certain pangtees or verses in all paaths that seem to stick with greater affinity. These seem to give an elated feeling of joy and connection. Therefore, it becomes easier to do repetitive jap or kirtan of these shabads..This is how gurbani works and why there are different raags. If someone feels a stronger connection with certain shabads or compliation of shabads, then there will only be benefit if that person dwells further and further into that bani. What I don't like is when people start slating banees like dukh bhanjani by associating with babas and deras. At the end of the day GURBANI is the TRUTH, bani is Guru and Guru is bani. No matter what verses are sung in random order, you can never harm or hurt the untouchable truth. The goal is ultimately to get to that state where pain and pleasure are actually just the same thing.. Fact is that after you die, you realise that all the events and what you deemed as obstacles and sufferings in your life, were in fact divine blessings! Such is the wondrous play of Waheguru.

There was no reason to snap at Simran345. If you weren't aware of the sites background then you could have said or admitted. Don't think that I'm poking or pointing at you but I know that sometimes we can find useful snips of information from other sources regardless of their agendas. Take what you find is of benefit and then ignore the rest.

Is that the real reason? Does Christianity say other religions will go to hell? ....I never knew that! What does the hair really have to do with it? I'm saying this because I never took steps to go forward telling myself to keep my hair. I just went searching within using the Sikh methods of simran and then bam!!! ....I suddenly had this urge to NOT cut my hair, I felt a spiritual connection and didn't want to break it. You look in the mirror and tell yourself that the hair has to remain cut and styled, but there is also another mirror inside you that you have to find to reflect on. This mirror is the truth and much more powerful that any mirror in the world. I suggest that you try doing bandgee as suggested by harsharan and lionesswoman. The hair and all other matters will start coming towards you.