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    I'm more surprised the Christian was talking about "many gods" such as "moon gods....sun gods". Seriously?!
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    Lol!
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    Pertinent question, given that 2 days ago in Canada, 5 Sardars and more than 10 others from a Punjabi background have become MP's. Maybe the British Sikh prospective parliamentary candidates are at the behest of so-called jathebandi's, ensuring that any British Sikh who wants the Sikh vote, would have to tow the "jathebandi line" as it were, or face the chop i.e. Paul Uppal. The only exception to this would be Parmjit Dhanda, MP for Gloucester during the Blair years. He didn't become an MP on the Sikh vote and wasn't at the behest of jathebandi's. He rose to become a minister. This is why sometimes, it is easier for gorey to represent Sikh constituencies. Jathebandi's/Sikh organisations have their own agenda's which often stifle prospective parliamentary candidates. We can be our own worst enemy sometimes.
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    Just look at Pinky Singh - how can she be an apnee?!
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    John McDonnell MP Hayes and Harlington, appointed Shadow Chancellor. A long standing campaigner on Panjabi and Sikh issues.
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    Tom Watson on the Andrew Marr show this morning (13th September):- "there isn't a Sikh in any legislature in the UK representing Labour and we need to change that". Tom Watson is a force to be reckoned with but he has a job on his hands. Somehow, he'll have to get the rest of the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) to rally round and support Corbyn. Jeremy Corbyn - the most rebellious MP in Labour history, who voted against his own party over 500 times since 1983, now expects loyalty from the rest of the PLP - and it is Tom's (and the chief whip's) responsibility to ensure that they do. Jeremy Corbyn, a reluctant leader, had to be persuaded to join the race in the first instance. What does that say abut his 'readiness' if he had to be persuaded by others to join the race? Since 1983, he has remained on the backbenches, not a single government job. He has no experience of government. I won't mention his overtly friendliness to Hezbollah and Hamas, or his commiserations on the passing away of Bin Laden. Jeremy Corbyn's most ardent supporter, friend and ally, John McDonnell MP Hayes and Harlington, and an even more closer friend of the Sikhs than Tom Watson, is tipped to be Shadow Chancellor or another high profile role within the PLP. It's easy to fill town halls, rally's and protest marches. Filling (and retaining) those Labour benches, however, is another matter altogether.
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    The irony of a coffee mug is that coffee itself is a diuretic......i.e. it makes you pee more than usual!
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    Typical politician.....always taking the p*ss
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    Don't worry, URINE our prayers, Mr Bance.
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    Mr Bance, you know URINE trouble when the CBC use hidden camera's in a sting operation, but nevermind, URINE-vited to join the Liberals.
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    Wanna join the conservatives? Fix a leaky sink, and URINE
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    If you came looking for pee joke's, then URINE luck
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    lol@ pashabgate.......... .....this Jerry is just taking the p*ss
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    Of course it is predominantly women being targetted. What I have been surpised about, is over the last decade, the number of Sikh men who married Polish women in Slough and the surrounding areas has increased exponentially. They were all registered (requirement to achieve permanent settlement) but many also had anand karaj in Slough Singh Sabha and Ramgharia Slough, not to mention the gurdwarae in and around Southall/Hounslow/Hayes. Not a dickie bird from the so-called beadbi police. Yet...everyone knew it was going on. Why the lack of protest?
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    Starstriker, Using words like "dumb " and " dopey cow" isn't going to help your cause. Rather, it'll further the argument used by the 'other side', that the mixed marriage debate has been hijacked by sad, single men unable move with the times who wish to "control or suppress women".
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    We have 9-10 x the Sikh population of NZ. When you kiwi's have 600,000 Sikhs, then come back and we'll have a discussion on how many mixed faith marriages you guys are dealing with.
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    It's ridiculous to compare 1.5 billion Muslims to 30 million Sikhs. A highly educated Muslim woman will still find another Muslim to marry due to sheer mathematics. If not Pakistani then another ethnicity. Mathematics, unfortunately, is not on our side.
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    Big Tera, You're walking right into this mate. Your fighting the symptoms, not the underlying pathology - which is what Jagsaw as well as others on here have eluded to. No point treating the symptoms and ignoring the pathology. The fact is, most sikhs are not amritdhari, and the ones that are, are academically less able than those who aren't. This is the crux of the debate. What turns the intellectuals away? Another reason why the ratios are skewed is that some amritdhari (and non-amritdhari) men still marry girls from India. Hence, for women, there is fewer choice in the UK/Canada/US/Australia/NZ etc. The reason I didn't mention this in my earlier post is because this group of men is mostly less educated (not always) and wasn't relevant to the discussion. However, maybe, the less educated guys are marrying girls from India, leaving the educated women with even fewer options. Firstly, because there aren't as many educated Sikh men in the first instance (compared to Sikh women) and secondly, even if a Sikh woman was to settle for a less educated guy than herself (not so likely nowadays but still, even if) then there's a shortage of them too because they get married in India. So what is the girl to do? There's no point shouting outside gurdwaraes when mixed-faith marriages occur (symptoms). It's too late by then. We got to look at the pathology, underlying reasons, of how we got to this situation.
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    Jagsaw, This is probably one of your best responses by far. On any thread. I'm from down the road from you, the other side of the borough, and I noticed this trend especially in Hounslow around the mid 90's and it has continued. The Sikhs attracted to amrit were the less academic. You're correct about institutional "uneducatedness", anti-scholar, anti-evidence base, anti-debate, anti-academic theme that runs through many jathebandi's and gurdwarae. It's a case of "let's follow the baba" - not the guru's, who encouraged debate. As a medic, I can recognise what you say about medical placements and muslims. I saw first hand how some Sikh girls were drawn to them, and other non-Sikhs. This may shatter the illusion of some on this forum, but these Sikh girls were not groomed, or from broken homes, or single-parent families or otherwise vulnerable. In fact, the opposite was true, the crème de la crème as the French would say. As you say, there is a huge strata of Sikh women who are not amritdhari but not clueless about Sikhi either, they are academically superior to many of the men, particularly the amritdhari cohort, and they reach their mid to late twenties in ratios far greater than men in terms of professional occupations and look around and wonder.....where are the amritdhari barristers, the amritdhari surgeons, the amritdhari chartered accountants etc. Unable to find them, this leads to socialising amongst certain circles and marriage in certain circles. The amritdhari men need to up their (academic) game.
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    PS jagsaw.....if one is depressed and wishes life to end, these days I think its a single ticket to Switzerland never mind Eastern Europe!
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    Greece. (1) It has sun, sand and sea. Many places of interest, culture and history. (2) Half price at the moment. (3) It'll help their economy.
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    Jagsaw, Are you proposing a sort of, "devo-max Scotland" type of model for Punjab? i.e an autonomous state with the freedom to raise/lower tax, interest rates, independent health/education policy but essentially, still part of India and therefore the same military/defence? Or, rather,. an independent country called Punjab (or whatever) that is sovereign?
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    Absolutely barbaric and atrocious. Find the culprits responsible for this atrocity and name and shame. Who is Kashmira Chand?
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    I second Jagsaw. From what I see, it's mostly moneh who support Khalistan.
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    Absolutely. Over 1000 comments. This type of story, with a fitting picture accompanying it, encompasses the sarbat da bhalla attitude in a way that a 2 hour lecture on sarbat da bhalla in a gurdwara can never achieve. We Sikhs have become specialists in "theory" - the practicality of applying Sikhi is something that is lost on many.
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