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Atheist do your history, christians have killed their fair share of innocence in the past.

The goverment did something, they organised it and used the police to carry it out. If youve listened to Mark tullis 20yrs on from bluestar, a radio program on BBC online he does an interview with some former government minister (i think). he said he had no doubt that members of the government had organised the carnage, and that he witness teams of rioters led by the police looting sikh ownd buisnesses.

LOL The "insurgency" got support on the day of 13 april 1978. when the indian government funded nakli nirankari movement held a procession in amritsar, they shouted blasphemous and downright offensive slogans at the sikh gurus and the sri guru grant sahib, but when sikhs held a peaceful counterprotest, the nakli nirankaris Along the the police decided to attack them. 13 sikhs attained matyrdom. whole crowds of sikhs witnessd the atrocities. non of the nakli nirankaris whr prosecuted (seeing as the police attackd the sikhs as wel no wonder). As for the "insurgency" goading the facist indian government to attack darbar sahib, hey, do you think the insurgency goaded the army to attack OVER FOURTY OTHER TEMPLES ACROSS PUNJAB? was sant ji at these temples as well as the darbar sahib? what about the Sikh Reference Library, irreplaceable collection of books, manuscripts, and artifacts bearing on all aspects of Sikh history, burned to ground. Then The day of the attack itself, on guru arjans day of matyrdom, the day when the golden temple complex would of been at its busyiest. The media couldnt tell anyone what happend during those few weeks because they wher being rounded up and escorted out of punjab by the military. Ther was a radio program i think its setill available on the BBC website, bluestar 20yrs on. Its good listening, also would like to add that mark tulli to sant jis speach, and realises that sant ji was not for khalistan. Atheist, i recomend you read books about the situation, written from non-bias prospectives. Cynthia keppley mahmoods, fighting for faith and nation is a good book.

We seriousley need another singh sabha type movement. the youth need to be steeredaway from the 5 vices. it can only be done by preching gurbani. i meen if sikhi was stronger within people they wouldnt hang themselves through depression.

If India did use NUclear bombs in punjab or anywher for that matter, india would have to face the wrath of the world. no1s gona let them get away with it. BTW Their nuclear arsenal is nothing spectacular compared to other russian, american and european types

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Sikhi is all about learning the divine knowledge of god, set down by the 10 gurus-and eventualy giving up the 5 vices, and attacking the with the 5 virtues (gues then your 'khalsa', pure) , take your time to learn and understand.

NOT DELHI 'RIOTS' its GOVERMENT ORGANISED POGRAMS.

And your point is? First of all, look at sikh history, back in the days the mughal forces were super powers of the world, they outgunned and out maned singhs back then, yet when it came to battle the mughal suffered crushing defeats after defeats. Durranis, nadhir shahs amhed shah abdalis empires were considered the main super power powers of that day, only seconding the most powerful islamic empire, the ottoman empire, Sikhs are just 2.0% of total population of India Rite now, Imagine the population of Sikhs at that point of Time! Banda Singh Bahadur ruled only for 6 to 7 years, Banda Singh Bahadur broke the yoke of 700 years rule of the invading forces from the Arab countries. Their myth of power was broken by him. The sacrifices of Banda Singh and his men did not discourage the sikhs but prepared them for the worst future fights. How was this all possible you ask? put your faith in god, the almighty, the creator sustainer. and destroyer himself, and anything is possible as long as its righteous. I mean you should study much more about SIKHI, history the battles and wars, and other wars, such as WW2 and vietnam is a good example. and another thing, india wouldnt dare use nuclear weapons in punjab, it would destroy and contaminate the land were the majority of indias agricultural industry is, along with spreading nuclear fallout to thier country, and pakistan, china, neapl. the world would not let india get away with that, theyd most likley retaliate by inavding india itself. india wouldnt stand a chance. oh ye rmeeber sikhs make up 10% of india armed forces. some pakistani genral wrote a book or memoirs or sumthin he commended sikhs on their bravery on the battle field as he saw first hand during the indo pak wars. wasnt it genral shaheed shubeg singh who won indias war in bangladesh. But thankles nazi state hindia made trumpt up charges agaisnt him and alot of sikh genrals, taking away their pensions and such. what a bunch of thankless backstabers. what needs to be done is to educate more people about sikhi, if you have the word of waheguru within, you shouldent fear any mortal no matter how powerful. as long as you act righteously.

1. Islam is distorted, has been for ages. There are many different castes of Islam, they have different interpretations of the Koran. extremist Muslim preachers twist Islamic ideologies, brainwashing youth turning them agaisnt 'non believers'. One extreme mullah was abu hamza here in the UK. I remember few years back someone secretly cam corded one of his speeches. abu hamza said quite a allot of 'shyt', 1 thing he said, I vaguely remember was that 'it was okay to steal from another, as long as theyr non believers. 2. I place my faith in almighty god, waheguru, akal purakh. No fear. 3. which version of the koran? 4.in the case of 'extreme' versions of islam, i.e wa.habi and sunni islam, then yeah, many more problems. 5.i wonder what osama bin ladens opinion of islamic nations (the ones who adopt their distorted extreme version of islam) opressing other faiths and cultures, past & present. 7. in his case Its all about the money. 8. i answer the rest anotha time.

this is a comunual riot. 1 thing we learned from delhi riots was not only to wear 5ks, but to know sikhi within, as all who did, didnt run and cut their hair, rather they stood fast and took on the Goverment organised rioters. many civies and media persons bare witness to such bravery. but apart from dat i agree with above. :TH:

Funnily enough alot of 'sikh' girls i come acros do drink and go out with (sikh) lads but they stay away from muslims, and some have a (very) basic idea of sikhi. but ive never heard any sikh girls saying that sikhi is originated from hinduism and they dont call sant jarnail singh khalsa bhindranwale a extremist. Ive said it time and time again that these youth where never sikhs to begin with, neither wer their parents, they were never taught gurbani so who can blame them if they are in the grip hold of the 5 vices. if you come acros any sikhs wether boy or girl spouting false info about sikhi just kindley educate them.

as for whoever spraying ik onkar (though its spelt ik oankar) on the pave what a sap that person needs a good ol' slap and generaly need to be taught sikhi and whats right and wrong. If one is to start a vigilanty gang to protect our selves from these muslim misguided biggots, everyone in the 'sikh' gang needs to atleast do nitnem, and along with their peers, together should activley learn about sikhi so they can be better people at heart,so on operations they would have the word of god within and carry out their operations fearlessly and wouldnt go round' hurtin normal inocent muslims out of anger and ego.

Shere punjab is full of punjabis, mostley mone and kesdhari, not many proper amritdharis. But the thing is these stupid paki muslim gangs yoused to target innocent sikh, like little boys and old men. i remember once, i forgot wher it was a paki gang of teenagers beat up and killed a young singh playin in the park. that caused an uproar these muslim gangs are nothing toe-to-toe theyr just bloody whimps whoo keep on geting their arses kicked when they go up against a real oposition not just 7 yr old boys. they want revenge theyd probvably attack more inocent young 1nz and then the paki gangs will just have to get their arsed kicked once again i duno its probably a fault in their genes or sumthin.

The occupied republic of khalistan

is ther racial tensiom down slough? if anyhthin kicks off ill be on the ready, though there needs 2 be more organisation on our side. i live down Cranford Endz.

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Agree with teraroop

Im not sure if enough is being done, but at least something IS being done, and this trend of stopping beadbi is growing, which is great news. we can all try to do something, wether its joining groups such as the respect for sri guru grant sahib campaighn, searching on the net or around local areas wher beadbi is being or going to be commited and informing groups about it, or at least just making all youth like freinds aware by TELLING THEM what is beadbi and what isnt.

Agree with confused sikh Fact is alot of So-called sikh families living in the west arnt actualy sikhs.since they didnt learn gurbani, neither did their children. hence both elder and younger generation are griped by the 5 vices. some people say westernization is the problem, thats not entirley correct, if someone is studied in gurbani and part of khalsa 'westernization' or performing useles hindu rituals (as alot of so called sikhs in india do) aint a threat.

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most "misguided" people in the panth are not aware that they are "misguided" untill theyve been hurt at the end ovit all. As khalsa we are meant to help all other misguided brothers and sisters by teaching them sikhi. The thing is that most Sikhs do not have the correct perspective of Sikhi. They do not know that Sikhi means (apart from keeping 5Ks) 1. Striving to be away from Kaam or Lust. 2. Striving to be away from Krodh or anger. 3. Striving to be away from lobh or Greed. 4. Striving to be away from moh or attachment to worldly things. 5. Striving to be away from Hankaar or Ego. A. Striving to be towards Satt or Truth. B. Striving to be towards Santokh or Contentment. C. Striving to be towards Sabr orPatience. D. Striving to be towards Daya or Compassion. E. Striving to be towards Dharam or Righteousness.

SSM hit the nail on the head

Thankless snakes tryna distort the history of their saviours.

The reason u got kids trimming their beards n stuf is cuz no1 ever taught them sikhi in genral, gurbani and naam jaap so they stil under the grip of the 5 vices. once we start teaching all kids gurbani and its meanings, wether they are monay or not, more and more will want to be under the fold of khalsa and uphold rehit.