BhForce

What?? The one issue where Jigsaw doesn't have an opinion? How can this even be possible? I mean if it's not a matter of praising your jihadi friends, brother Jigsaw has no strong opinion. Do you have to be a medical doctor to know whether killing an adult is bad or not? Do you have to be a gerontologist to know whether killing a old man is bad? OK, I applaud you for saying at least this. Which is much more than your lefty friends will admit. A man of philosophy. I wonder, dear Jigsaw, if you would consent to having your body torn limb from limb, to study the effects of pain, and also to delve into the nature of "being". All in the interests of Science, of course.

Then it can be justified. It's just that merely saying that "my life will be upset" does not mean your actual life is in danger.

I agree that this happens. They are liable to be judged by the Dharam Raaj in hell. Well, it's justified to save your life. Which is not the case in the vast majority of abortions (above 99%).

Bravo.

There is simply no such "belief". It was simply made up by "Yogi Bhajan" to please his followers. Christians used to have a belief in something called the "quickening", which means that supposedly the soul enters the baby after a few months. It's totally unscientific, don't fall for it. If you can't go and kill the rapist on your own, on what basis can you go and kill another party? No it does not. Go ahead and quote it, if you want.

Well, what else is it? A newt? Or a dragonfly? Fools the whole lot of them. Dumb men, dumb mother-in-laws.

You know very well that the reason for killing the child is for the parents' sake, not the child's. It's so crazy that people on this site ask "Is it OK to do X?" Get it into your heads, folks: Sikhism believes in karma. What you do will be done to you. If you kill a child in its mother's womb, you will be cut up in the womb. ਜੇਹਾ ਬੀਜੈ ਸੋ ਲੁਣੈ ਕਰਮਾ ਸੰਦੜਾ ਖੇਤੁ ॥ Jaehaa Beejai So Lunai Karamaa Sandharraa Khaeth || As she has planted, so does she harvest; such is the field of karma.

What a fool. Thanks for pointing that out. She would have known he was not a Muslim the moment he took his pants off. Lies all around.

Maybe. God only knows. Well, if we were going to rule them, it might be a good rule (like the Sikh Raj of Maharaja Ranjit Singh). But we are not going to rule them. The Muslims are. And we're going to be in a world of hurt then, as are the white British.

You're going about this wrong. You don't need to understand what references are being made. There are thousands of shabads in Gurbani telling you to recite the Name. Just do that. This isn't a video game with a cheat code to be able "aim" to get past the Dasam Dawar. Just relax and do your bhagti. Guru Sahib will take care of the rest. When you actually reach a level of spiritual accomplishment, you will then see where the west gate, window, etc., are. It's like saying you can't understand from a textual description what the layout of the Darbar Sahib is (Manji Sahib, Dukh Bhanjni, Akal Takhat, Harimander Sahib, Parikarma). Once you go there, you'll understand in one second. Same for the Dasam Duar.

Well, OK, I know that Westerners date in order to find a marriage partner. But, again, I asked him, what's the point of that date? It's to find a marriage partner, right? So why would he date someone that he doesn't even know is a Sikh? It's like hiring a guy to fix your leaky faucet, and then when he shows up, you ask "by the way, are you a plumber?".

That's your first problem. You do something that Guru ji said not to do, and then you wonder why you have problems. You might as well say, "I tried to get into a pub with full prakash beard and turban and kirpan, but the bouncer didn't let me in." The problem is you're doing something you're not supposed to do. Or, "I went to a kebab shop and they had all halal meat. What should I do?" If you're just talking with a girl in your class, that's one thing (especially in a group setting). "Dating" is another. Let me just ask you: What was the point of the date? We don't date, we just get married. If you're trying to identify marriage partners, why would you date someone you're not going to marry (a non-Sikh) in the first place?

No, bro, Guru Sahib told them that a true Muslim has a heart soft as wax: ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਮੋਮ ਦਿਲਿ ਹੋਵੈ ॥ To be Muslim is to be kind-hearted like wax, Have you ever met a Muslim who has a heart soft as wax? "Simran Jeet Khan", on the other hand, is going to cover up for the Muslims by ignoring or minimizing the "bad parts" of the Koran and hadeeth. You should fully expect him to defend Islamic sex slavery, child marriage, temporary marriage, dhimmitude (humiliation of non-Muslims in an Islamic state), and other gems from the Koran.

Hey, I love you too, bro! I wonder who this "CHForce" could be ... sounds like a real nut, lol

1. It would be fine to give 1 quote per day, but 1 per hour is simply too much, and I don't think people want to receive such notifications at work. 2. Please make sure that the quotes make sense. It's often the case that taking a single line out of context can change the meaning.

What I find disconcerting is how weak Sikh "professors" look. Here's "Simran Jeet Khan": He can't even be bothered to wear a full turban. Remember that NYC Sikh professor who got beat up by some toughs in Harlem? Prabhjot Singh: When did we become a nation of 98-pound weaklings? If the professor had looked like this: do you think maybe those hoodlums would have thought twice about beating him up while walking with his wife and thereby emasculating and humiliating him?

Preach it, bro. Yeah, that's the point. He doesn't have the moral courage to call evil, evil.

Are you kidding? Why would he teach that? (That he's a Sikh.) When you take a class about Islam, and the prof is a Christian, does he state that he's a Christian? No oone does that. If the prof were a Muslim, do you think he would start off by saying "I am a Muslim"? Of course not, college professors don't do that. "Simran Jeet Khan" is just another of these mushy Sikhs who don't have the courage to say "I'm not a Muslim". How much do you want to bet that he doesn't say "I'm not a Muslim"? This is just a disaster waiting to happen, this man is going to further confuse Sikhs and Muslims in Americans' eyes.

I agree with this. It's about the only thing I agree with this guy. White people think that they function like scientists in lab coats examining insects and such. Meanwhile, non-white people are supposed to act as representatives of their various species (like robins, woodpeckers, pitbulls, etc.) Nonwhites are not to act like disinterested scientists. With that said ... is this guy nuts? Why in the world would he want to put himself forth as professor of Islam? When he goes on TV and such (or even if he doesn't), he'll be cementing the view in Americans' heads that those people with beards and turbans are Muslims. Thanks a lot, "Simran Jeet Khan". Secondly, what does he think he's going to do? If he's going to whitewash Islam, there are plenty of people doing that already. Or, if he's going to tell the truth about Islam, he'll be targeted for violence, since he's easy to pick out. So what's the point? We all know he's going to portray Islam as a new-age dharma full of love and kindness, and all of those terrorists like ISIS head al-Baghdadi who have a doctorate in Islamic studies just don't understand "the real Islam". See this article for what the real Islam is: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ The author writes that the “reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic.” You'll never hear Professor "Simran Jeet Khan" say that.

Hi and welcome. Why don't you make an account? It's free and it facilitates conversation. Where did you first start out finding about Sikhism? Library? A neighborhood Sikh or student? What appeals to you about Sikhism? There is the ceremony of "amrit chhakna". But I think that you should be firmer in your desire to become a Sikh and have greater knowledge of what you're getting into before you take that step. At the moment, I think you should just keep learning about Sikhism.

Bro, he's a total newbie asking a basic question, and you point him to 1430 pages of reading?

I think that's an unfortunate way of thinking, but each to their own I guess. Look, if there's someone out there who was unfortunately sexually assaulted, that's a different matter. Simply by saying he doesn't want the mother of his children to be a h0e, he's already stated he means girls who deliberately set about to have as much extra-marital s#x as possible. What's "unfortunate" about not marrying such a girl?

What if they got into Sikhi, later on in life ? Well, what if they did? You're basically answering your own question in that you even mentioned "getting in to Sikhi". Which means you acknowledge that before they "got into Sikhi" they had little respect for themselves. Otherwise, why would you even say that?

Exactly. You don't do anything before marriage that you wouldn't want your wife/husband to do after marriage.

Good answer. I mean, would you "mess around" with your sister? I have no doubt some of these "liberal Sikhs" would.