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Everything posted by isingh1699

  1. Simran Ji stay strong and your strength in battling through to now as you have done is inspirational and humbling. All Sangat here are doing Ardas for your health.
  2. Given what happened in Delhi on 15th August 2013 isn't it about time we the SikhSangat family get the show on the road regarding fundraising for the PURE program?
  3. Sardar Kartar Singh Jhabbar was a great Gursikh. Only the enemies of the Panth who wanted the Hindu Mahants to retain control of Sri Harmandir Sahib hated him. Sardar Kartar Singh Jhabbar did not pierce Dasam Bani. But yes he did pierce and throw Triya Charitar out as a response to Hindu Mahants reading it and placing it alongside Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. GPS u can openly call him a b*st*rd on a Sikh forum and proudly support the Hindu Mahants of that time. But the majority of the Sikh Panth will always regard Sardar Kartar Singh Jhabbar as a Khalsa and legendary hero of the Panth from that era.
  4. Yes Veerji, Moti Ram Mehra Ji was a great Guru da Sikh and his offspring were also Sikh but now some (Hindu) frauds are claiming Baba Moti Ram Mehra Ji as their ancestor purely becuase the name "seems" Hindu to them. The enemies of Sikhs use the same evil tricks with respect to Bhai Mardana Ji the first Sikh in our Panth. And Shaheed Bhai Kirpa Singh Ji is wrongly labelled Pandit even after shaheedi as dushts assume once a Brahmin always a Brahmin when Khalsa Panth rejects biraderi.
  5. Can any technical expert brothers and sisters help ADMIN Veerji with this?
  6. You're absolutely correct Khalsa Ji. We need conscription of youth to do seva in poor countries to teach them how lucky we are, what Sikhi stands for and why it's important. 100% true Kaur Ji I humbly suggest to you bro that it's this sneering elitist attitude of yours which pushes such youth away. The consequences of your attitude can clearly be seen. Absolutely right Veerji. Children follow where parents lead. Thus where parents fail we as a Sangat need to provide as positive an influence/mentoring as we can. Not so Veerji. The overwhelming majority of Sikh-Muslim marriages in Canada are between a male Sikh and a female ex-Muslim who rejects the sexual discrimination of Islam. Only in Ontario are Pakistani levels beginning to grow to the levels where they can try emulate their Muslim grooming + love jihad tactics as employed in the UK.
  7. You hit the nail on the head Dalbir Singh Veerji. This is what our enemies laughed about when they tossed up Sikh babies on to spears in Pakistan in 1947 and when they set fire to Sikhs in 1984 with kerosene supplied by Congress. That this was pur so-called karmic punishment for past misdeeds. No Sikh should believe this lie. Veerji absolutely agreed, no true Sikh will kill or rape others. But we must also be careful to reject the lie that those innocent victims of genocide, rape and disability suffer as a result of their previous misdeeds in previous lives as this is a pure Hindutva lie propagagted by Manu Smriti (primarily to assist in the oppression of dalits and women). Gurmat is wholly based upon truth and reason. Gurbani cannot be separated from reason. Thus we shouldn't speculate unduly about that which we are unsure about. God alone knows everything as pyare Veer Bijla Singh Ji rightly said. So why not let us entrust all justice to Akal Purakh rather than by the lies propagated by Manu Smriti.
  8. Dalbir Singh Veerji from my understanding all Gurswevaks, though perhaps Hindu and Muslim and Jain originally, were Guru de Sikh ultimately. For example Baba Moti Ram Mehra was a Guru da Sikh but enemies of our Qaum have transformed his pavithar memory into being thought of as a Hindu Kashyap Rajput. The truth is Moti Ram Mehra Ji was a Guru da Sikh who fought for the Khalsa Panth but suddenly a bunch of crooks are trying to claim Baba as their ancestor. I totally agree with the direction of your point Satbachan Veerji but just to remind readers of the Sikh vision of (Kesdhari) Bhagat Sain Ji that we hold (in contrast to our enemies later portraits of Bhagat Sain Ji) http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.amritsar.com/images/gallery/sain.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.amritsar.com/cgi-bin/Gallery/picture.pl?day%3D30%26month%3D6%26year%3D2005&h=553&w=553&sz=43&tbnid=c_4N4LGBfMOyXM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=90&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbhagat%2Bsain%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=bhagat+sain&usg=__BxwhFiF7dMoslJbDmQEajZZDtgE=&docid=UQiylAwWpg5IhM&sa=X&ei=FTMMUvilJOO-0QWO84GYCw&ved=0CD4Q9QEwBQ&dur=4623 The great thing about this thread is that the overwhelming majority of the Panth welcome + respect our sehajdhari brothers + sisters to participate more within + on behalf of the Panth in contrast to a small but vocal minority of haters amongst us who want to see the Sikh Panth's population made as small + powerless as possible.
  9. Poodna Ji are you understanding the meaning of Rehat? Is Rehat for you just a set of rules to follow in order to get classified as a Sikh and to be employed to keep the population of Sikhs as small as possible as the RSS would like? Or should we understand the Rehat that Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj was talking about - whereby Rehat means living one's life the correct way. Thus, if we keep kes but drink alcohol or call ourselves Sikhs yet hate on others for the genetic disposition they were born into then clearly there is zero merit in us calling ourselves Sikhs. If we believe in biraderi or believe in a rapist as our spiritual teacher then clearly there's not much point in us outwardly claiming to be Sikh. Dasme Pathshah's point was that in order to consider ourselves Sikh we must live the life matching it spiritually and perform the necassary actions for Sarbat Da Bhala to go with that. Thus, the point upon Rehat is not to sehajdhari's but is applicable to Kesdhari's and indeed Amritdhari's too. You define Sehajdhari's as non-Sikhs meaning that "Sikhs" as defined by yourself and the RSS amount to no more than 5% of eastern Punjab's overall population. So presumably I take it that that your opposition to defining sehajdhari's as non-Sikhs stems from a desire to ensure that Sikhs never have Khalsa Raj? As quite clearly without a demographic base upon which to build Khalsa Raj it is highly unlikely to ever take shape. It's nice to know that you considered Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh ji, Shaheed Bhai Kehar Singh Ji and Bhai Rajoana Ji as non-Sikhs when they put their lives on the line for the Panth. Instead of classifying sehajdhari's as non-Sikhs or worrying about the one in a thousand Sikhs that might be gay wouldn't it be better if we encouraged sehajdhari's to join us in the battle to obliterate drugs, alcohol, biraderi, illiteracy and abortion as five of the main pillars in our modern Dharam Yudh for which we need as many people as possible to stand shoulder to shoulder in fighting against (including yourself and gay Sikhs).
  10. Dalbir Singh Ji this classification of sehajdhari Sikhs as being non-Sikhs by naive elements within our Qaum is pushed by our Panthic dushts. In the next census they want to classify all derawadi influenced Sikhs as non-Sikhs but the longer term aim of our enemies is to classify the 90-95% majority within the Qaum who do not keep kes as non-Sikhs. That would eliminate all the threat that Sikhi poses to Hindutva forces. They know the 1940's Rehat was a massive achievement for Hindutva liars as it excluded crores of Dalits outside of Punjab from joining the Sikh Panth along with Dr Ambedkar. Now Hindutva has set its sights even higher against the Qaum. Their aim is to reduce us to a mere 5% of Punjab's population. We should be sensible enough to counter this and encourage sehajdhari Sikhs to engage more with others and do more seva for the Panth. Even the SGPC could benefit from sehajdhari members who have proved their dedicated seva for the Qaum on a practical level in terms of uplifting people's lives. If we can't treat our own sehajdhari Punjabi Sikhs as integral members of the Panth it bodes ill for how exactly Sikhi is meant to expand outside of Punjab. Lucky Singh Veerji i always benefit from reading your posts and I believe I speak for the whole forum. If Gursikhs like you were lost before you had progressed to becoming Kesdhari or Amritdhari then only the enemies of the Sikh Panth would have benefitted from that. Agree with you completely Veerji and Guru Sahib only advised us to voluntarily keep kesh for our own benefit (not merely to follow rules as our enemies say). Of course Amritdhari Sikhs do need to keep kes as a requisite for the Khalsa Panth. Jonny Veerji i'm truly humbled. I always assumed from your posts that you were Gursikh from day one. So it's inspiring to know that your whole family were ex-sehajdhari's like myself once too. Once people understand Sikhi (at their own pace) devotion to the Truth follows naturally. We need constant new sehajdhari blood for the Khalsa Panth to flourish and encouraging sehajdhari's is the way (rather than discouraging them not to do seva). Kes kattal and monah are loaded terms which perhaps we should steer away from in order to make all feel welcome within the Panth albeit with the realisation that Amritdhari jeevan is the ultimate goal all must try to aim for eventually.
  11. Dalbir Singh Veerji. Everything is part of Hukam at the ultimate level. If the dude survives (injured or unscathed) let us thank God (rather than his so-called actions in a previous life). If he's paralysed then let us focus on blaming that on the shooters rather than the one suffering. If the innocent dies - clearly solely as a result of the evil murderers - then that should mean mukthi and merger with The One.
  12. Excellent post Jashb Veerji. I'm glad you are one of the Sikhs that realise the 100 million Punjabi Muslim population means we should detach ourselves from Punjabi culture completely and attach our loyalty solely to Gurmat. Liaquat Ali Khan (the 1st Prime Minister of Pakistan) and Sajjan Kumar are two of the most famous Jatts I can think of and the Jatts of Haryana are busy ethnically cleansing Sikhs out of Haryana just like their Jatt brothers from Pakistan who brutally killed Sikhs in 1947. Sikhs have no caste and the more we emphasise that the more young Sikh women might actually marry within the community rather than having the perception that they are from the wrong biraderi when Guru Sahib repeatedly emphasised Kul Nash (as opposed to idiotic gotra pride).
  13. We need a coherent and practical response to this phenomenon. Simply disconnecting those who inter-marry from the Sikh Panth is not practical and will not help. Canada and the UK are our big overseas strongholds. 99% of people in these countries are non-Sikhs. 98.2% of Indians are non-Sikhs. In urban Punjab we are a minority. Even in Chandigarh, our proposed capital only 19% of the population are Sikhs. So were it not for education about Sikhi, statistically it could be assumed that four of out of five Sikh young women in Chandigarh would marry non-Sikhs. Thankfully, that's not the case as there is enough basic knowledge and loyalty within the Panth to currently avoid that. But when throughout the World only one person in 250 is Sikh we have to realise that the odds are stacked against us in assuming that intermarriage will never occur. When it does occur, denying a Gurdwara blessing to a couple who wish for Anand Karaj is tantamount to cutting off generations of future Sikhs from the Panth. We can protest and gatecrash again and again and again, until with every generation we lose at least 20% of the Qaum to intermarriage and subsequent boycott+disconnection. Or we can use the desire for an Anand Karaj as a means of reconnecting lost souls back into the mainstream of the Panth. We also need to distinguish between spouses from Dharmic faiths and Abrahamic faiths because in the case of the former Sikhi is the automatic logical choice of any child from such a union (though we can't be so naive as to assume all our Qaum will be Amritdhari given that only Panj Piare had the bravery to answer Guru Sahib's call in 1699). Without a coherent integrative plan to deal with ever increasing intermarriage we are destined to suffer a future significant Panthic population decrease worldwide. The easiest way to deal with it is by accepting every person who sincerly marries via Anand Karaj as Sikh and using mob force against the pretenders who lie (rather than in cancelling weddings). By formally rejecting discrimination against women that is in the Bible, Quran and Manu Smriti it ought to catch out a lot of the fraudulent miscreants who marry Sikh girls with ulterior motives. The Panth has to act as the Girl's family in all such cases.
  14. Veerji it was purely for food in times of war (or to defend the community from a predator) with the incidental side benefit of sharpening military skills. Hunting was never done for entertainment. The lie that Sikhs hunted for pleasure was invented by our enemies to portray us as debauched.
  15. isingh1699, on 21 Jul 2013 - 02:28, said: ADMIN Veerji do u have the technical computer skills to do a gupt paypal link counter to show us how much the SikhSangat forum is raising day by day for the PURE program? http://www.focuspunjab.org/pure.html Sadly I don't and pressing post is the maximum I just about know how to manage! Khalsa Aid have been contacted to put the plan into motion by dealing with you direct to aim for the maximum target we can all raise.
  16. Veerji can you out how this Muslim sheikh is slandering his own beloved holy Prophet? When the information comes from Muslim sources it can hardly be called an attack! Onlyfive Veerji i believe the lack of an answer to your question categorically shows that Sikhs have been careful to distinguish between innocent Muslims (whom we Sikhs have nothing against and whom me invite to join us in the agenda of pushing for Sarbath Da Bhala) and Islam the religion which through the Prophet Muhammad and Quran undeniably promotes slavery, terrorism, sexism, discrimination and pedophilia.
  17. Veerji can we also have the deleted response to Osingh Ji's original post which was deleted due to it being thought of as racist as pointing out Truth is NOT racism! I think because you posted the Truth 13Mirch Veerji ... in the light of some pro-slaveowner posts ... it was mistakenly deemed as racist ... but Truth prevails!
  18. You're totally right N30Singh Veerji. Behaving like Muslims on this issue does not get us any good publicity but like you correctly say loses the Qaum generations of future Sikhs. The UnlceJi was right Dalbir Singh Ji. In the case of a parent committed to raising their offspring unequivocally as Sikhs then what does it matter what background the woman is from. Obviously with women being the more vulnerable gender a Sikh's daughter should only wed a Sikh and anyone who is sincere should at least be willing to become a sehajdhari member of the community regardless of their race or background - if they are not willing to agree with Sarbat Da Bhala and condemn domestic violence which is given sanction in Manu Smriti, the Bible and the Quran then they clearly have no respect for a Sikh woman (or indeed all women). As usual SikhKosh Ji you're correct. In the case of Sikh parents discouraging sons from bringing willing new Sikh partners into the Panth (from originally a non-sikh background) it's a joke. Female spouses of a previously non-Sikh background, i have seen in my family + others, are often more Sikh than many so-called born Sikhs. Given that 98% of Indians are non-Sikh, 99% of Canadians are not Sikh, 99% of Brits are not Sikh and elsewhere the percentage of non-Sikhs jumps closer to 99.9% we shouldn't be surprised that these types of marriages are taking place. We should make efforts to join the new spouses to Sikhi as N30Singh and SikhKosh Ji have said rather than looking to alienate all future generations away from Sikhi. So long as we are tiny demographic minority alienating people from the Gurdwara will only result in a smaller and smaller Sikh population going forward. The logic of Sikhi means it can be the faith of choice for such families if we play our cards right + emphasise that Sikhi is the only faith with total gender equality and which opposes domestic violence, which is why a male spouse should accept Guru Sahib if he truly loves the girl.
  19. SikhKosh Veerji i totally respect where you are coming from on this. We're all on the same side on this. And absolutely correct that our enemies are going all out in their attempts to lower our percentage below 50% in the next census in only 7 and a half years time. With Dera followers being classified non-Sikhs and Abrahamic ideologies being encouraged whilst the modern Genocide of our Qaum via drugs, alcohol, abortion all actively encouraged. But I think we can turn back their gameon our multi-headed Dushts heads by active parchaar to Bihari's in Punjab as well as going all out to re-integrate sehajdhari Punjabi's who call themselves Hindu Punjabi's back into the Sikh Panth via education. Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj is out of the stratosphere compared to what Sai Baba, Durga Devi and Mata Rani have to offer these HP's. Don't forget Veerji that in Himachal and Rajasthan we Sikhs are only around a mere 1% of the population in both states. In Haryana, we currently stand at 5% and as Haryana's population overtakes Punjab's our percentage is set to further decrease in line with that, as we have seen in the case of Delhi since 1984 where terrorist GOI actions have pushed our population percentage down to 4% currently from just under 7% in 1984. All I would say Veerji is that this is what the RSS and our enemies want, that we be ethnically cleansed out of India (to end our threat) and dumped into a land reservation (like the First Nations people in North America) which is 1% of the size of the Indian land mass (east Punjab). Then just like the white man did to the First Nations people they flood the reservation (Punjab) with alcohol and drugs. Great post Tandoori Singh Veerji. Only things i'd add are that since all of the Muslims that remained in Malerkotla etc voted for Pakistan we should assist their dream of settling in Pakistan with transport assistance if they are not interested in becoming great Sikhs like Syed Prithipal Singh, Bhai Gurmohinder Singh, Shaheed Laxman Singh Babbar. Even Kuldip Manak saw that Sikhi was the Truth. So if others see the Truth as being pro-slavery, pro-terrorism and pro-pedophilia then maybe the Punjab government should encourage their re-settlement in Pakistan (as the Punjab Muslims had unanimously voted for in the 1940's). As for HP's, if only we can be more accepting of sehajdhari Sikhs they should come to the logic of Sikhi of their own choice. Once more HP's make the decision to come to Sikhi like Mehtab Singh Ji of our forum bravely did then instead of opposing Sarbat Da Bhala they will join us as part of the Sikh Panth on the mission to ensure justice, progress and equality for all. You're correct Jonny Veerji. The Muslims actually tried to ethnically cleanse us out of east Punjab in 1947 too but forgot that when Sikhs are involved in an even fight with even weaponry, then Sikhs will never retreat and never surrender. In current day East Punjab, Muslims, Hindu's and Sikhs were relatively evenly matched minorities in 1947 and despite far more Muslims in Amritsar than Sikhs, the Punjabi Muslims failed in their aim of ethnically cleansing us out current day east Punjab. You're totally right Proactive Veerji but the problem is we Sikhs already have the lowest population growth and fertility rates among the major religions in India. Also with the scarcity and value of land in rural Punjab (factors which don't encourage secular Sikhs in having too many sons let alone children) and urban real estate prices now out of the reach of many poorer Sikhs these factors are not ideal for Sikhs to raise large families as was the case with our grandparents generation. There is no easy answer to this but encouraging new Sikhs (a few Amritdhari, some Kesdhari and mainly sehajdhari) from Bihari's and HP's as well as an increase in our Qaum's birth rates (after all abortion clinics have been shut down) should make a difference. Absolutely Veerji and we need to get heavily militant against the factories of death aka abortion clinics which are heavily encouraged by the Dushts of our Qaum. The same goes for drug pushers and drugs smugglers and alcohol pushers and suppliers like the Majithia's and Ponty Chadha's of this world. As for those that are determined to exercise a monopoly on a biraderi-based golak we need to enforce a one Gurdwara per pind policy for greater cohesiveness + Unity Illiteracy and lack of education is at the root of a lot of our Qaum's susceptibility to anti-Sikh attacks so ADMIN Ji please kickstart the PURE fundraising program on here!
  20. I totally agree with what you say above Veerji. Corruption with regards to SGPC needs to be dealt with the same way Guru Gobind Singh Ji dealt with the Mahants. And totally agreed that we need to do a lot more on the medical seva front. And not just in Punjab, we have to do seva for everyone in India and Africa as well (as that's where most new Sikhs will come from too). As usual it's Khalsa Aid who brought the youtube video and we need your help too so that ADMIN Ji can get the www.KhalsaAid.org SikhSangat PURE program donation counter set up on the Muhammad Alam conversion thread.
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