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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Indian authorities have been unable to explain the abduction of Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Khalsa, by disguised drunken police, and his subsquent release. An unnamed source has said the authorities are struggling to provide an effective response and did not want to take the responsibility for Bhai Gurbaksh Singh's death in their care. Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Khalsa has returned to Gurdwara Amb Sahib to continue his fight for Sikh justice against a regime that is promoting abuse of human rights, tyranny, corruption and oppression of Sikhs in India. Meanwhile, clandestine anti-sikh policies, false imprisonment and crimes against Sikhs continue. - See more at: http://www.discoversikhism.com/sikh_news/sikh_news.html

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Bhai Gurbaksh Singh has been on hunger strike since 14th November seeking release of five Singhs, namely – Bhai Gurmit Singh, Bhai Shamsher Singh, Bhai Lakhwinder Singh (who are confined in Burail Jail, Chandigarh since 1995), Bhai Lal Singh (who was arrested in 1992 by Gujarat police and is currently confined in Nabha, Maximum Security Jail) and Bhai Gurdip Singh (who is confined in Gurbarg Jail, Karnataka for the last 23 years). These individuals have served their terms of sentence but have not been released by the respective state governments. So far, the Indian governments response has been to use the police to stop people visiting Bhai Gurbaksh Singh. And now, Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Khalsa has been arrested by police smelling of alcohol... Meanwhile, the Indian media have revealed their anti-Sikh bias by providing little or no coverage. This could only happen in a country like India. The Khalsa needs to awake! http://www.discoversikhism.com/sikh_news/sikh_news.html

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh So, the guy's point was that he can verify the rhetorical devices in his religion? Great, are these the same rhetorical devices that allow for lying and deception. Far too often the musalmaan is more concerned with his ordained mission of winning the debate than in respecting the dignity of the opposition partner in the match-up. That type of tactic is important to Muslims, and is not considered unfair. In fact, winning dishonestly is a categorical moral imperative. This was displayed by approaching Bhaji with a pre-rehearsed argument (which he kept repeating). One should always be very cautious and careful regarding debating musalmaan, as many see no problem using lies and deception on those occasions. Often, they do not understand dialogue and debate meetings as an open and honest exchange of convictions, but it is part of the Islamic war against unbelievers in another form, and "war is deceit" as Muhammad said. ‘Let not the believers take the disbelievers as ‘Awliyaa' (supporters, helpers) instead of the believers, and whoever does that, will never be helped by Allaah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them" [Q. 3:28]. A verse warning muslims to refrain from taking non-muslims as friends is to illustrate the mandate that muslims are under which demands from them to associate with non-muslims only for a very specific purpose, which is to lead the ‘infidel’ into the ‘house of islam’, chattel slavery, or death. One small request, if you like Bhaji's work please support - https://www.facebook.com/Mighty.Khalsa.books

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Very informative, Thank you Bhaji. Its a shame that since the Genocide of Sikhs began in the Punjab, during the 1980's and 1990's, this phrase has been has been used as a derogatory term by hindu's against Sikhs. The irony modern hindu's do not understand is that brave Sikhs were risking their lives to rescue kidnapped hindu girls (as mentioned) whereas the cowardly hindu lala's gave their daughters away, converted to islam or stayed at home to save their own skin. The same derogatory term, by hindu's against Sikhs, applies to the 'santa banta' jokes which surreptitiously refer to Shaheed Satwant Singh and Shaheed Beant Singh (who the sangat is encouraged to research and remember).

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha, Southall, one of the largest in the UK, are conducting inter-faith marriages during the week to avoid Sangat outrage. A Gurdwara source said over 75% of recent marriages are those where at least one partner is not Sikh. Gurdwara Masands are charging £1200 (including path) for the service. However, in a recent twist wedding partners may be able to sue for 'false pretences', which means someone lies or makes misrepresentations to obtain someone else's property (money). The argument being out forward is that because both individuals are not Sikh, they have not been 'joined in wedlock by the anand karaj ceremony' as per Sikh rules and have been deceived by masands (deceivers). The Gurdwara's could be liable for compensation covering full wedding expenses... Cost of damages would be borne by sangat donations. Other Gurdwara's notably in Slough and the Midlands, UK do not allow inter-faith marriages.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh UK Sikh gurdwara's are continuing to carry out inter-faith weddings against Akal Takht advice. The Rehat Maryada states 'Persons professings faiths other than the Sikh faith cannot be joined in wedlock by the anand karaj ceremony.' So, although the marriages may be legal under UK law, are the marriages recognised under Sikh principles? Are gurdwara masand's breaking the law by conducting marriages under 'false pretences'?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh There are some confusing aspects of the bible and the idea of heaven. For example, can your favourite pet (or other animals) go to heaven with you? I believe the answer is no, as Christians (and perhaps Muslims) believe animals do not have a soul. But then would it be heaven for you? (feel free to correct if wrong) There are different aspects in other religons that we take for granted in Sikhi. However, each to their own, live and let live. It doesn't hurt to inquire about other religion's and learn to improve one's self. Although, one should try and question the need to look elsewhere when you have what you need in front of you.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh If you're going to worship a lion, its probably best practice not to try it in person on health & safety grounds... (especially if its hungry). N30S1NGH do you often have a negative outlook when reading posts? try reading the comment again... and Please do try to see things in context. Did anyone else not get the joke?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh If you're going to worship a lion, its probably best practice not to try it in person on health & safety grounds... (especially if its hungry).

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Its Rememberance Day in Commmonwealth countries. In researching the Sikh contribution in the World Wars, I came across the thirteenth letter... and the battle of mudki (moodkee). The Battle of Mudki was fought on 18 December 1845, between the forces of the Khalsa and the East India Company and was the first Anglo-Sikh war. Quote "the native panic for the Sikhs was too great. the Sepoys one and all broke the ranks and fled, and that with such swiftness that I could not attempt to keep up with them..." (sometimes I look in the mirror and scare myself as well... :blush2: ) The commander of Sikhs was Lal Singh, the treacherous dogra convert, who chose Sikhi purely for the purpose of securing military promotions. "British Battle records state that Lal Singh betrayed his Sikh army. During the war, he had continuous correspondence with British officer, Major Nicholson." Lal Singh (and Tej Singh) revealed the entire plans of the Sikhs to the British. However the Sikhs gave England a unique experience which, ultimately, led to a valued admiration of Sikhs.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Unfortunately, the majority of people on Topix do not have Waheguru's darshan. If you try and speak with a dog, do not be surprised if it barks at you... Your blood might boil, but do not bring yourself down to the dog's level... Instead lead by example and show the dog's of this world what it means to be in Waheguru's darshan. Pray, that one day these people will see the truth and lead better lives. A lot of young people on the Topix forum are not Sikhs (they may have Punjabi parents and/ or roots) and, unfortunately, do not have the right Guru to lead them, they are absorbed by - Haumai (self-centeredness) Kam (lust), Krodh (rage), Lobh (greed), Moh (attachment) and Ahankar (ego).

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Before your parents read the report, you could try starting a topic talking about 'krodh' (anger), why it's one of the 5 thieves and the effects it has on people and relationships... and then after they've read the report, tell them you've understood where you went wrong, agree to do better and keep as quiet as possible...

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Firstly, well done for raising the post. It seems clear (like all typical parents) your parents want you to be extremely successful and they think this will be through education resulting in wealth and/ or recognition by society. In general, parents are always hard to please, rarely recognise your achievements and find it difficult to say 'well done'. I would suggest; 1. Try and be honest, the truth always prevails. Tell your parents; you feel they are strict and this is putting pressure on you. 2. Don't lie or make too many excuses, what's diverted you? Try and refocus and change direction if you can. If you're experiencing bad thoughts or actions, try regular Simran and Path. 2. Stay true to Sikhi, its more important than wealth or public or family recognition. 3. Learn from your parents actions for your own family (when you have one).

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Good for you to speak up and say something (and a mona supported you). It seems the lady was angry at being caught out, rather than learn about and acknowledge her actions. Some people cannot take comments positively, most of all, so called elders...

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh This is a horrific case... To those that value football more than Sikhism, have a good look in the mirror. Is this British justice? Prizing football hooligans ahead of Sikhs. Please support the family (and add any details of funeral/ path).

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Sad news... In the UK the mens rea (Latin for "guilty mind") of murder is either an intention to kill or an intention to cause grievous bodily harm (which is clear from the evidence). The woman in question should be tried for murder and this case should be a warning for all those using violence against others. Please support the family (and publish any funeral/ path details).

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Good to see Sikh Channel covering this.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Poster can be viewed here, http://www.discoversikhism.com/sikh_news/sikh_news.html Please spread the word and make every effort to attend.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh The ways of Kaljug are very strange and are totally opposite of what Dharam preaches. In Kaljug, Gursikhs are slandered and scoundrels are worshipped; fools are considered to be wise and wise are derided as fools; poison is consumed as if it is Amrit and Amrit is loathed as poison; ਸਲੋਕ ਮ:੨ ॥ ਨਾਉ ਫਕੀਰੈ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹੁ ਮੂਰਖ ਪੰਡਿਤੁ ਨਾਉ ॥ ਅੰਧੇ ਕਾ ਨਾਉ ਪਾਰਖੂ ਏਵੈ ਕਰੇ ਗੁਆਉ ॥ ਇਲਤਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਉ ਚਉਧਰੀ ਕੂੜੀ ਪੂਰੇ ਥਾਉ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਕਲਿ ਕਾ ਏਹੁ ਨਿਆਉ ॥੧॥

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Bhaji, I understand. For obvious reasons the committee is hoping the Akhand Path will be enough to reassure people. The Akhand Path is a formal acknowledge in front of Dhan Sri Guru Granth that a wrongful action occurred and asks for forgiveness. However, the Akhand Path does not stop this situation from re-occurring in future. To that end, the committee will have to make a public statement. If the committee do not want to provide a statement to advise how this situation will be avoided in future, then the Akhand Path may be viewed as a meaningless act.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Bhaji, a Sri Akhand Path is a welcome step in the right direction. An acknowledgement by the Guru Nanak Darbar committee that a wrongful action has occurred and to seek forgiveness is the right thing to do (although they promised one before). Sikh organisations, elders and media have failed to intervene, offer advice or guidance and help resolve the situation. Tensions are very high and this situation could become easily become a lot worse. Reading some of the responses, its not hard to imagine the course of events. The Guru Nanak Darbar committee (who are at the centre of this situation) need to take responsibility and diffuse the situation. To date, they have maintained an arrogant public silence.The wider Sangat continues to become aware, at the weekend further mention of this issue was made in the media. So, yes a Sri Akhand Path (and Ardas) and a written statement to advise how this situation will be avoided in future and what the procedures for dealing with the assessment, collection, repair and destruction of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is required as a minimum.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Bhaji, do you know the story behind this?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Bhaji osingh, some great thoughts. Bhaji taran0, you have all the right idea's. We need a plan and then need to try and implement with Gurdwaras as osingh suggested. That's the hard part. If we can encourage Sikh youth to the point where they want to go to Gurdwara themselves or they start asking their parents then we will be moving in the right direction. Maybe Gurdwara's could introduce activities, speeches, presentations or tasks that young people enjoy. If Gurdwara's could start with 2-3 sessions a month it would be a start. Could someone draw up a list of recommendations and circulate to gurdwara's? Activities need not cost money. For example, I know some people that would love to do seva but are too embarrassed. Why not draw up a simple list of how young people can help around a Gurdwara. When youngsters see other youngsters they too will want to join in.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Some great stories, may they remain joti jot.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Yes, read somewhere that they have been removed. Are there any more details?