Akalifauj

Just now, jkvlondon said:

covering the face is frowned on , do you think anyone used pandemic as an excuse before , because I'm sure they had loads back in the day?

There is always context.  For example alcohol for cleaning a wound is good.  Alcohol to drink is manmat in Sikhi.  

So you don't actually have history or Gurbani to back up your claim.  Essentially you are putting words in the Guru's mouth, knowing the Guru did not say it.  This is manmat.  Sure there may have been pandemics in the past.  But you don't have any information on how the Guru would have dealt with it.  Do you not see a problem with your wild claim?  The Guru has refused darshan to a Muslim women who covered her face for religious/cultural reasons.   However this reference is not related to the pandemic where  face mask help prevent the further spread of  a deadly virus.  

53 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

as soon as they said you need to cover your face in darbar , my gut wrenched thinking on the disrespect to Guru Amar Das ji's sikhiya.

Where in Gurbani or history did Guru Amar Das ji say not to wear a mask in Guru Sahib darbar DURING a pandemic?

17 hours ago, Singh375 said:

 

Whoever’s mantar or shabad you jap, it will take you to that person’s level. Guru Nanak’s level is the point between the eyebrows, where the power is sarab kalaa samrath. This point is a gateway to the spiritual world.

Can you provide Gurbani that says Guru Nanak Dev Ji level is thenpoint between the eyebrows?  

Gurbani says focus on the Shabad Guru, which is Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji.  

People that advocate for not wearing mask or don't wear mask in public are not considering the life threatening virus they potentially can pass on to someone that is at a higher risk.  If you don't believe this virus exist.  Than walk into the icu ward for covid patients at the hospital.  Many of these internet warriors will actually start crying after seeing the condition of these patients.  This is no conspiracy.   Sikhs as for sarbat da bhalla.  Wearing a mask in public is acting in the role as sarbat da bhalla.  There is no bravery in not wearing a mask.  It's called arrogance and having no COMPASSION. 

26 minutes ago, DailyMail said:

lower strate of the varna system?

Good god, what did i just read there? No wonder the Ravidasia community are pushing for caste discrimination as part of the Equality Act 2000, because of uneducated Hindus like yourself.

Seriously, how did we end up with people like you? 

 

I'm being serious. How much did your RSS masters pay you to write such an anti-Sikh sentence? Crikey. We need another SIngh Sabha movement and yes we have our work cut out if this is the crap we're dealing with.

 

This entire thread has turned into why rural Sikhs are specialists in Punjabiat and manu-smitri. There's no Sikhi there at all. Most of you are still confused with being a Punjabi and living the Sikh way of life. Being in touch with Punjab has got you guys no where in Sikhi - nowhere. You want to see a mona? Go to Punjab. You want to see a Singh? Go to Delhi, Jammu, Bangkok...I wonder why?! 

 

The love for Sikhi is clearly inversely proportional to being a Punjabi. Worked it out yet? No? Get your RSS masters to solve that one for you.

Oohhh no, @dallysingh101 is being attacked by his own weapon.  Someone named dailymail help this weak loud mouth poster out.  @dallysingh101 is the root cause of all the caste related drama on this forum.  Without any regard he insults people who live in the village.  You are completely being biased here.  I don't care for @dallysingh101 or @Ranjeet01 but the spade here is poster dolly.  If you are a moderator here, God help us because you couldn't write a more biased post than you already did.  @ADMIN maybe its time to clean your house.  I know one of you got hit by covid as I recall from a post.  So maybe after you guys are better.  

Wait there might be a 1800 painting of dolly wearing a shirt with the word innocent on it.   Well, he's innocent.   Everyone stop whining, he's a honest guy.  Where is the brick wall so I can smash my head multiple times to see the light as @DailyMail did.

I dont know who this is.

The latest urgent news in Sikh circles is sumedh saini is on the run from the law and your grandfather badal is hiding him.  Your dad dhumma licked badals feet for years.  Why isn't all the feet licking paid off? How many times did you lick dhumma feet on this site?  Its time for you to collect compensation for your and your dads feet licking.

8 hours ago, PuzzledToo said:

No need to apologize to anyone.Its a forum for you to speak your mind.Its very obvious what you said was just an emotional reaction and not something you really want to happen.All of us human beings do that at some time or the other.Unlike some mahapurush on this forum who starts issuing fatwas declaring poeple as non Sikhs.Ignore the fools caught up in their own haumai that they are the most perfect Sikhs ever.

You must have been one of the brainless cheerleader who voted up the post that said a person can die because a poster was frustrated over their behavior.   Now you are doubling down by saying no need for an apology.   This forum wouldn't allow this behavior and neither does Sikhi.  Where was your compassion?  God gives life and takes it away.  You can’t even handle insults from a girl and want her to die.  Your turban is on wayyy tooooo tight.  

1 hour ago, Kaurr said:

It's because these same kanjars are going to apparently start representing sikhi and do those Khalistan talks. 

I don't care what someone says if they're not a sikh, but when they start saying sikhs can work as s3x workers and other sh1t, that's what annoys me at the highest levels, cause these people deserve to go to hell.

So if I tell someone they are kanjars on this forum and they should die because they frustrated me.  I shouldn't be kicked off this forum and I should get three brainless cheerleaders to  vote up my post?  Your behavior is not of a Sikh but of a person lost in maya.  You may do paath.  But nothing is being understood by you.  

3 minutes ago, Kaurr said:

lol, she's not a sant, and she's saying that she doesn't wanna live long.

She can go die in a hole with all the other kanjars.

She is seeking attention from the saw by saying, she won't live long.  

How much hate do you have to tell another to die?  She said something really stupid and she got similar comments back from others.  Hoping she dies is a nastik way of living.  

On 9/2/2020 at 12:24 AM, Koi said:

Easy there big man. Sometimes people don't necessarily know how to help. Instead of poking holes, why not give suggestions?

No holes were poken.  I provided the vision for him to see the holes in his thought process

On 9/2/2020 at 8:06 AM, Singh375 said:

In previous yugs with long lives and very strong bodies people started from the bottom and spent thousands of years meditating to reach the top chakar and meet God.

Can you provide Gurbani to back up this claim?  

4 hours ago, puzzled said:

I am not judging this Bibi at all, my heart goes out to her and all the parents in her situation. Its heartbreaking stuff. Shes a amritdhari lady, I saw her the other day she was cleaning her front drive with a broom and hose pipe, was really sad seeing her ... 

How does your heart go out to her? By standing and watching her and not providing a helping hand?  Your thought process: "How sad she is cleaning her front driveway by herself in her old age of 70 years old.  I feel so bad for her, why doesn't her son see his mother is struggling.  Well my heart goes out to her.  I'm go inside and relax on the couch."  You don't feel bad for her.  If you did.  That lazy hand would have stopped typing and started giving her a hand even when she refuses help in cleaning the driveway.  Gurbani teaches compassion in action.  Where was your compassion.   Did you lose it why you were cursing God on the other thread?  

Yes I'm being very blunt here because this is the reality you fantasy Sikhs are too lazy to act on.  Get the head out of the fantasy and step into reality.  The reality is to pay attention to the shabad guru while doing simran.  Looking at the helpless and using the shabad guru to gain strength and act in compassion.  And not to listen to sounds while doing simran.

7 minutes ago, Koi said:

Of course the various levels of compassion are subjective, and of course Gurbani is the highest judge, no question. But that's not what's being questioned here. To a compassionate individual who sees so much bad in the world especially to completely innocent people, the concept of God having a divine plan for all is simply not enough. 

Various mahapursh have spoken on the suffering of individuals to explain why they are suffering in this life. However, again, for a normal individual who sees innocent people suffering, who has no knowledge of the previous lifetimes, "God's divine plan" is simply not enough. That does not, however, invalidate or lower their compassion in any way. Their understanding for the reasons of suffering does not invalidate the compassion they have have to alleviate the suffering. 

Hope that makes sense

The person who is judging God based on all the bad in the world is using a level of 'compassion' he sees fit and what he defines as compassion. So this level of compassion changes from person to person.  So this discussion is about the level and what is defined as compassion. 

You cannot label someone compassionate without bringing the definition of compassion from Gurbani into the discussion. Otherwise I can tell you mine is greater or vice versa.  And there would be no conclusion. The person who looks at the bad in the world and says there is no God because innocent people are suffering is not compassionate by Gurbani standards. This type of person is egotistical and arrogant. Yes, in a room filled with people who don't have the knowledge of Gurbani and don't go by Gurbani, which means arrogant and/or ignorant people.  Your person may be considered compassionate, if everyone in the room would agree.  Your normal person  in the room would be majority of those who agree on what is compassion.  This number based normality for defining compassion does not stand the test of Gurbani.  In reality there is no normal person take on compassion.   What you define as normal is what majority see and react too.  In reality according to Gurbani there is the true definition of compassion as Gurbani describes it and then there are billions of definitions by billions of people who use their instinct and learned behaviors to define compassion.  

25 minutes ago, Koi said:

This question/thought process is not a result of atheism, but it is born out of compassion (dayaa), the place where all dharam begins....

Seeing a child starving 1000 miles away is not born out of compassion but instinct and learned behaviors over human history. Each tribe, region, ruler has their own definition.  The level of 'compassion' is not pure as some will have more and others will have less.  So who's level of 'compassion' will dictate what is right or wrong? History has told us the army that wins has dictated what level of 'compassion' will be used on the conquered people. Sikhi does not begin with this arbitrary level of regard for another human being, which you call compassion out of ignorance. Compassion as described by Gurbani is brought forward by following the teachings of the Guru.  If  true compassion existed in the world, than why did Guru Sahib have to come and teach true compassion?  You are talking about level of regard a person has for another.  You are mistakenly equating it to Sikhi taught compassion by the Guru.  Many people do this out of ignorance and it doesn't matter how much Gurbani they read a day or have taken part in punj pyare or have done thousands of akhand paaths.

10 hours ago, Koi said:

It's always happening, whether it's in front of our eyes or not. And that's exactly what the original poster is going for. The issue is that it's happening all over the world all the time. Even if you feed half a dozen people in front of your eyes, that's still going to do nothing for the rest. 

You provided a specific example and I replied to it.  If it's happening before your eyes, than feed the child.  If its happening 1000 miles away and Guru sahib has given you the ability and means to feed the child than do it.  Its that simple.   The original poster is speaking from an atheist point of view.  Such a view is full of holes because there are homeless people in that city, why don't they help them; God doesn't exist and currently they (athiest) are the most powerful species on the planet that can help.  Saving this world of hunger, poverty, war, etc is not the ultimate goal according to Gurbani.   Gurbani says help others because of the virtues given to Sikhs like compassion and contentment.   There is an instinct to help others.  Some people have more inclination and others have less.  Such inclination are not pure and increase ego on both sides.  God has created his creation perfectly and gives those who he chooses and takes from the same later on.  Creation (humans) has no say in who receives.  Humans forget that we are a part of creation and grow this ego over time because humans believe we can do something.   If you want to feed the starving child 1000 miles away.  Than get rid of your ego and dive deep into the ocean of Gurbani.  Than Guru Sahib will use you as a tool to provide help for the starving children.  The problem is, no one wants to be the tool of the Guru.  Everyone wants to be the creator,  and saving grace.  

1 hour ago, Sat1 said:

Noones paranoid, nor do I actually care. Someone disliked like 10 of my posts in the one go which is just super weird.

Anyhow moving on, hope more people become aware of what’s really going on with the worlds governments and peadophilia. With the recent protests I think more people are finally beginning to wake up

If you didn't care, why write a post about someone voting down your post? Also saying how sad the person is, needs to get a life, etc.  You also labeled them as a stalkerish and kind of scary. You care very much and I would say paranoid because you believe you know who this poster is, that down voted your post and believe you are being stalked on here.  This screams of paranoia. 

I was trying to help a paranoid poster out by getting admin, mod, and s1ngh involved.  @ADMIN @MOD @S1ngh please help this poster.  Do it in pm.  She is on a mission to break up sex rings run by millionaires and famous people and is being 'stalked' on this forum.  She has big fish to fry with her smartphone and go, go gadgets.

1 hour ago, Koi said:

, but when a 4 year old girl in some third world country is dying of hunger in front of your eyes...well...let's just say I wouldn't be so hard hearted to say "it's her karam".

If it happening before your eyes.  Then put food in her mouth.  

3 hours ago, puzzled said:

So everyone is saying why blame God, there is enough wealth but rich people keep it to themselves, But why doesn't God provide for the starving? If the rich don't want to that's fine, but I'm sure God can provide ?     but he doesn't 

Bani says God can turn a well into a mountain and a mountain into a well ... 

Does hitler and nazi army get a free pass in their next life on earth?  What about indra gandhi?  What about Joseph stalin?  

On 8/24/2020 at 9:31 PM, Singh375 said:

Your reply is very respectful, thanks.

Their sangat did not question the bachan. It was enough to give renewed confidence to focus on naam simran with faith Guru Nanak sache patasha will take care of them. 

I shared the bachan to try give OP the reassurance, with naam simran, he will be fine. I have no intention to be insensitive towards all people whose lives are impacted, to those offended I am sorry. 

The audio from bandagi nama is the closest my limited understanding can go to interpreting their bachan. 

Being in the presence of such mahapurkh is terrifying. You can’t question them their partaap is too much. 

Come back with a clarification and nothing less.   Asking for clarification is not doubting or 'questioning'.  I have sat with Gurmukhs and they can answer questions a person has before they ask it.  The Gurmukhs want to clarify their answers.  They are open to further questions and don't put fear in others.  They follow the teaching of without fear.  Singhs asked for clarification from Guru Sahib and how much partaap did Guru Sahib have. So don't make excuses.  

I simply don't accept your blanketed statement because as it stands.  It goes against Gurbani as i showed in my last post.  Gurbani teaches the reality that viruses and diseases exist in Akal Purakh creation.  This bachan of satguru so far has been questioned and rejected by the person who you call mahapurkh.  There is no mahapurkh higher than Gurbani.  

4 hours ago, Sat1 said:

Lol someone’s gone back and strategically disliked almost every single one of my posts on here. How sad and what a waste of a life. Could def guess who it was. Get a life mate. Extremely stalkerish and kind of scary. Find someone else to creepily fixate on?

@ADMIN @MOD @S1ngh

Once upon a time every member can see who voted a post up or down.  Can we go back to that function.   All these paranoid members will be set free from their insecurities.

Has anyone heard of brainwashing or grooming girls at bhangra classes?

On 8/23/2020 at 10:04 AM, Singh375 said:

A very high stage mahapurkh ji has done bachan about Covid-19. They said it doesn't even exist there's no need to be scared. But they also said respect the govt. advice - follow the guidance you are given like keeping 2m apart, wearing face masks

The fear is all in our minds, the 'what if' is causing you to be scared, even though Guru Kirpa your family are well.

Give this a listen ji - http://gurbaniupdesh.org/multimedia/01-Audio Books/Bandgi Nama/27. Bimaari Ate Deh Arogta.mp3

Keep absolute faith in Guru Nanak Dev Ji. 

Wishing you and your family good health 

In what  context is this person saying the virus doesn't exist? He could mean that it only exist like how the world exist but doesn't have a permanent existence like Akal Purakh. Is he saying covid 19 doesn't exist in any shape or form at any level in creation of Akal Purakh? Maybe you heard him wrong.  So a clarification is really needed here.  If you want people to take you seriously.  Obviously you presented this blanketed statement here to influence others.if you don't want to influence people than you would have kept it gupt.  If you can, record what he says or ask him to write it down and quote it here. 

You quoted a blanketed statement from a person you call mahapurkh.  This statement is basically saying people who died due to covid 19 were faking it or just experiencing it in the mind.  There is physical hard evidence the covid 19 virus exist in this world.  A test is done, results come back, the person has symptoms and its positive. 

If he is saying covid 19 exist only in the mind as an illusion (as described in the audio you presented) than what about cancer?  What about the disease/virus that attacked Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji and after asking for the blessing of Akal Purakh.  Sri Guru Hargobind sahib ji was saved.  This historical event is in Gurbani and happened when Sri Guru Arjun Dev ji was Guru. 

Definitely, you need to clarify what he is saying.  I hope I get a response and not a personal attack because you feel offend by me asking for a clarification.

Its called branding products and services to a certain company/owner.  Also sex sells, so branding a company with a symbol helps people recognize who made it and brings up certain feelings that will help sell the product.  The same is true with ideas.  Calling people who follow the dress standard of Gurbani as Muslims, sexist, saying men and women are equal, etc all such phrases are said to distract the mind from the true message of Gurbani and latch on to a slave mindset that is rooted in extremist feminist ways. Poster @Sat1 used this very technique to take away from the true message of Gurbani.  This poster has a brand to sell on this forum.  Jay z and beyonce are selling a brand by attaching a symbol. 

The girls that choose to wear clothing that reveal the body also have to do another thing that is against gurmat.  They remove hair from the body.  All these girls wearing sleeveless tops are removing armpit hair.  They use various methods to remove body hair to fit into their new western society.   Yet they want to run Sikh societies in universities.  The most simplest requirement to be a Sikh is let the hair grow.  You don't have to do anything. However,  these girls go out of their way to make sure the most simplest requirement of being a Sikh is not followed.  They hate the very hair on their body.  How can such girls teach others to not be hateful.  They fear society response to keeping hair.  They fear wearing respectable clothing by Gurbani standards because that's dressing like a extremist muslim.  When did Gurbani standards become the Muslim way! The simplest truth is to accept that the body has hair.  

1 hour ago, Sat1 said:

For a spiritual beginner, the first law is speak the Truth, and Nirboah and Nirvair. Fear no one and Hate none, because Hes everyone everything everywhere, All Pervading. Fear and hatred will be replaced with an Unconditional Love. 
 

Without the application of these basic laws, we’re lost. Before you don clothing Claiming to be a Sikh, accept this gyan. Or there’s no point....You’re living in Ego from the get go. 

Can you answer the question, which was asked, couple of days ago.  Can you read and understand Gurbani in Gurmukhi?  This question is very important because English translations of Gurbani do not do justice to what Gurbani is saying.  Before running away out of frustration and anger you refused to answer this question.  Also in your rage you disrespected Gurbani by joining two separate panktis, which are on completely separate angs into one. Since you are back.  We would like you to answer this question.