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Why do we pray everyday SIKHI KESAAN SWASSAN SANG NIBHAUNI? don't you guys pray so ? Bhai Ranjeet Singh , Bhai Sukha & Bhai Jinda & Prof Bhullar are here as testimony to this ardaas

Why add Bhai to the name of a Clean shaven Guy ? can he be compared with likes of Bhai Taru Singh?

Come on guys , It is not pooranmasi (Poornima ) It is Katha ( kathas made out of nothing by Brahminicals elements ) I am commenting on

GPS , You are making mistake in some lines , even giving wrong meanings it is like this ( From where you are going wrong : - ZIMIDAAR SADAYE ( The Land lords were called ) GIN GIN POLLE LAYE ( Dulla ordered to beat them with polla - a whip made of torn clothes IKK POLA REH GIYA ( when one polla was remaining from the punishment SIPAHI PAKAD KE LAI GIYA ( Akbars army arrested dulla & took him away )

People are becoming really nutty gritty , Dont know what my friend means with monkety nuts and eating spinach ? on this occassion , thats really news !!!!!! The Fact is that , all over India , the occassion is celebrated under Different names , In North it is Lohri , in western they call it Uttrayan , in south it is Pongal , The real occassion is , The sun from this Day onwards starts spreading Rays in most part of earth specially on Northern Hemisphere reducing cold weather and the tfrom now onwards Hot season starts approaching . Sikh Religion & this Festival - No connection . But I have travelled in Most parts of India - Many think Dulla Bhatti was a Sikh ( How Funny ? our Community Leadership never Tries to Explain Themselves to the other Diaspora - More Funny , Even More Funny is notion expressed by someone here that Punjabi Culture is Sikh Culture ) Sad part of it all is that Sikhs from & of Punjab think that Sikhi is their Monopoly and only them have right to decide what is Sikhism . while Sikhi in the days of Guru Sahibaan was spread from Kashmir to Srilanka & Assam to Baghdad , Just give it a thought , do we want to make it a Universal Faith or Religion of Punjabi ppl only ? I may look going wayward from the topic , But I see Similar questions being raised every year at Lohri , then Holi , Baisakhi , and the Diwali , every year Answers & views expressed are Same , we remain carrying on business as usual , same wayforgetting within days the real message SORRY WITH FOLDED HANDS IF SOMEONE FEELS I AM BEING TOO MUCH

I feel you have not read Baba Farid JI, and his language

Thanks to the singh starting this thread , I listened to the song after long , to see which line does not make sense , the text I found in my old diary .Found no line which does not make sense . Anyway thanks to You , enjoyed it after so long Ther is one more song in the same disk - BAN JAYE JINDGI DA EH DASTOOR NANAK . it is equally beautiful please listen it on U tube

thanks for sharing the link

can rec ollect a few LINES , We have written in diary as my departed sister used to sing it ( her fav) NANAK NAAM CHARDI KALA TERE BHANE SARBATT DA BHALA JIS TE HOWEY TERI KIRPA USDEY SIR TO TALEY BALAA TOO JEEWAAN DE BHALEY DI KHATIR KALJUG WICH AWTAAR LIYA SAREY JAG DA CHAKKAR LAAYA SAB NU SIKHAI DHARAM DAYA USS DHARTI DE PAAPI TAR GAYE JITHE TERA KADAM PAYAA - SAT KARTAAL JINA NE JAPYA DOOKH ROG BHAI BHARAM GAYA SABH SANSAAR NU AAN NIWAYA TOO SAMRATH HAIN SARAB KALAA NANAK NAAM CHARDI KALA TERE BHANE SARBATT DA BHALA BAABAR HIND TE CHAR KE AYAA TAINU DARD APAAR HOYAA JAD BABAR NE DARSHAN KEETA SARA DOOR HANKAAR HOYA SUN KE BACHAN TUSSAN DE SATGUR TANMAN US DA THAR HOYA TOO SACH ADAL DA SABAK SIKHAYA PARGAT WICH SANSAAR HOYA JO MANGIYE SO MILDA TAITHON TOO SAMRATH HAI SARAB KALA NANAK NAAM CHARDI KALA TERE BHANE SARBATT DA BHALA NAU NIDH NAAM GARIBI PAAKE WANDI WICH SANSAAR DE WICH JISNE PAYI DAAT ELAHI MAN JUDIYA KARTAAR DE WICH KHALI KOI NA JAWEY MUR KE JO AYAA DARBAAR DE WICH CHAR WARAN HOYE CHAREY PY AIRE JINA LAI SANSAAR DE WICH TERE BHANE UCHE NEEWE SAB RAB DI HAI SARAB KALA NANAK NAAM CHARDI KALA TERE BHANE SARBATT DA BHALA NA KOI BAIRI NAHI BIGANA EH PARCHAR TERA BAABA BAALA TE MARDANA JI NE KITA SANG TERA BAABA HINDU MUSLIM SIKH ESSAI MALLIYA DAR TERA BABA - BURIYAN NAL WI NEKI KARNI EH SUBHAO TERA BABA JO NANAK NE DHARAM CHALAYAA HOR NA KOI SAKE CHALA NANAK NAAM CHARDI KALA TERE BHANE SARBATT DA BHALA

The site Islam Sikhism - the ppl running it are fake, because they do not believe in healthy discussions , instead presenting their own POV . Never basing their response to any logic and only saying this is written in Holy Quoran . All thier articles are criticising other faiths .Clearly thier dec lared aim is DAWA ( what they say is call to mankind for putting faith in Islam ) Hence their are only collections of negativity .That is the site where Al Taquiyya is active and why should we give him so importance in our discussions ?

Saviderpalsingh , please come to sense , please differentiate between Language & script , kyoon , ustoon pehle punjab de lok koi boli nahi see boldey ? I see you always get personal very easily , before responding please always have a relook at your response

Brother , I have a valid point , Wherever I see some thing diametrically opposite the spirit of gurmat , specially at this site , intervention and the sarcasm are not invalid

The bhajan having the above lines has been quoted in full , I have quoted the site , please search in the site if another bhajan suits your requirement , even otherwise I am sure you will love the other bhajans too , and the site also . as it is a minefull of good poetry. There is a story that Meerabai , having been persecuted by her Husband's family wrote letter to Soordas & tulsi dass , i do not have full poem , but remenber a line from the poem since school days - GHAR KE SWAJAN HAMARE JETE SABANIH RAAR BADHAAI , Both Soor Das & tulsi Das responded . Soor Das replied in Bhajan - "Chand Man hari Bimukhan ko sang , Ja ke sang kumat upjati hai parat bhajan me bhang " and Tulsi das replied in Bhajan " Ja ke hriday nahi Ram Vaidehi , tajiye taahi kot vairi sam jadapi param sanehi "

There is only one line mentioned in SGGS P 1253 - Further next there is a Shabad mentioned as Sarang Mahla 5 Soordas and Full Shabad is noted down as M 5 is mentioned alongwith , it is surely a Shabad by Sri Guru Arjan Dev ji - but in the last line Soordas name is mentioned . Prof Sahib singh in Guru Granth Sahib Darpan ( Teeka of SGGS) at page 5177 to 5183 has given his views very nicely ( I strongly recommend a reading ) the teeka is available for download at vidia.com and gurbanifiles.org Prof Sahibsingh ji has also mentioned that " some people say that the full bhajan ny Soordas is written in Bhai Banno khari Beer , and in Kartarpuri Beer full Bhajan is written and is cancelled ( Uppar hartaal feri gayi hai ) " . Burt he further mentions that he himself had opportunity to have darshan & study of KartarPur Beer (alongwith Principal Jodh singh & Master Kehar singh ) and in Kartarpori Beer only one line ( under reference ) alone is written ( without any further lines written & deletion made thereof ) and there is no reason to doubt his words

Oh It really is a Breaking news ?!!!!! , How can we think that Guru Sahibaan created such things , 180 degree at variance with Sikh philosophy & Gurmat

It can be found at site kavitakosh.org ( an excellent site if you enjoy hindi, urdu & other indian language poetry . Here the first line is written as - Tajo man hari bimukhan ko sang . all other lines are as I read during mu school Days ( full bhajan by SoorDas ) as follows तजौ मन हरि, बिमुखनि कौ संग । जिनकैं संग कुमति उपजति है, परत भजन में भंग । कहा होत पय पान कराऐँ, विष नहिं तजत भुजंग । कागहिं कहा कपूर चुगाऐं, स्वान न्हावाऐं गंग । खर कौं कहा अरगजा-लेपन, मरकट भूषन-अंग । गज कौं कहा सरित अन्हवाऐं, बहुरि धरै वह ढंग । पाहन पतित बान नहिं बेधत, रीतौ करत निषंग । सूरदास कारी कामरि पै, चढ़त न दूजी रंग ॥7॥ It means in full that - Hey mann, ye shall give up company of those who are against god. (Because in such company ) thier company will arouse kumatt and our simran gets disturbed .Like serving milk to serpant , he will not give up emitting poison , same way feeding kapoor to Crow and giving holy bath to Dog will always be futile .Again giving chandan lape (annointing ) to Donkey , decorating a monkey with GEms & ornaments , Giving river bath to Haathi , all are futile as these animals will not give up thier ( wayward & bad ) habits . The fallen souls (durjan peoples ) are Stones which cannnot ne pierced by arrows , only our Tarkash will become empty in out Tryst . So says soordass that a black kambal cannot be dyed in any other colour -

Which Line you feel does not make sense ? may be we can relate it some way

are you defining yourself ? I have read all your posts on this thread , not a single can be related to the querries of OP

Does any one know what this guy wants to prove ? that he enjoys pulling others ? that he will not allow any one to focus on discussion ? that he will set the agenda of some other ppl's question? lets decide it first before carrying discussion further ? i feel he is trying to hide his ignorance

One by Dr Jodh Singh is available in 4 Vols - Published by SIKH HERITAGE PUBLICATIONS - 12 BASANT VIHAR , SIRHIND ROAD PATIALA

Now their hidden agenda is coming out , all these years they , RSS , have been saying that word hindu is all inclusive for people living in India , and it implies the cultural unity and people living here are all hindu chrisitians , hindu muhammedans etc , the word HINDU inplying cultural & geographical meanings . And now they are calling Ghar wapasi for musalmaans & christians of iIndia . Meaning whatever they said earlier was rather lie , or more politely speaking intentions disguised in softer words . I do not think they will , but if sucess comes their way ( I doubt it, there are more chances that they wouldn't) they will not stop there , next they come down on indigenous faiths i e Khalsa , Jainis & buddists , they already do not recognise pagan faiths ( the beliefs of indigenous ppl called Adivasis ) . So we have to be prepared for that time , Alas our leadership (if there is any )is still sleeping

Actually it is funny mix of election & selection - First Badal & Co selects candidates for SGPC , then these candidates are elected by people listed as voters ( & they get free supplies of booze & other joy enhancing substances ) .Now these elected members sit togather to elect (?)the President of SGPC( who is already selected and his name comes out from a lifafa recieved from XXX( do IO have to tell the name?) .Now thus elected & Selected Pradhan sits with his selector to select a person who can fit into the designs of the eleced selector and the selected elector .And Lo A new Jathedar is announced . I have seen this happening since I was wise enough to understand the design

LOL , mitti actually means dust , or more accurately soil , I feel what you mean is mithi (sweet is called mithi in punjabi ) The whole punjab is divided in to many areas - Th Malwa , Jalandhar Doab what we nowadays call Doaba , the Bari doab - Modern day'a Majha and area from Lahore to Multan across the border , then comes Rachan Doab the area lying between rivers Ravi & Chenab , further there is Jatch Doab - area between Chenab & Jehlum Rivers (Whole area is in Pakistan) and then comes the last - Sindh Sagar Doab - area between Jehlum & Sindu Rivers . All the zones having separated by rivers and having difference in climatic conditions too the difference in bolis ( Dialects ) is but natural .Further Punjab having been ,since prehistoric days melting pot of many races & cultures , all races coming from the western side - the ARyans , Huns, Scythian or Sakas ( Different subraces of this groups are Jats , Kambojas , and other Clans claiming to be Surya wanshis ) more recent additions being Mongols ( mugals ) plus the original dwellers , the penetrations by different races ranged eastwards as per the order of their descent , thus intermingling of Languages effected in different regions upto different degrees ( in proportion to depth of penetration of theses races) , resulting into Different dialects . Anothert factor being the climatic conditions ( Example - people in hotter climate open thier mouth more & Cold climate restricts the movement of lips & toungue - thus pronounciation gets different - in Jullunder & Malwa area what is spoken Paisa becomes in Peha in Majha area , same way Veethi ( Lane ) in Sanskrit becomes Beehi in punjabi . Coming to Europe - in Nordic countries where climate is extremely cold L becomes silent in all words . These are the reasons for difference in Regiona Dialects . Now punjabi being spoken by punjabis in Europe & American Continent has imbibed so much of English grammer & sentence structure that in India , we take some time in understanding it . In nutshell , the language is a means of communication , a dynamic tool for expression of views and with the mobility of people speaking it , is bound to change with addition of new words , obsolence of some and we should take the changes happening in that spirit only and not to ridicule each others To expand a little bit further at present Punjabi has 15 - 20 dialects , one can find these at Wikipedia , are ahave a unique flavor , and we should respect all these dialects

Not wanting to be pulled into your vitriolics , I just want to say Please do not limit gurbani to punjabi speaking ppl only , what is wrong , Are you not interested in spreading the message of the great gurus ? just one poster in hindi is enough to raise so much hullabaluu? what is wrong with you guys ? I just said that I wand to spread the teachings of great Gurus to non punjabi ppl & you are all so agitated ? i still stand by what I said , kirpa karo aur apne shell se bahar aao , Guru nanak dev ji ke sandesh ko punjab se bahar pahunchane me adanga mat dalo . Baaki hum log apne aap kar lenge

now I get you sir , According to you , the Sikh faith should be restricted to punjabis (specially jatts only ) others better stay away . But we will not let that happen . I want to spread the message of SGGS in whole world & will do same , you be happy with your hypocracy and the tree in you loft