MisterrSingh

Lol, exactly what I said: she only lowered her standards once she'd experienced hardship. So, out of desperation not to be left on the shelf she stumped for a guy who made less than her. Had she not been treated poorly and the first relationship hadn't gone sour, she would never argue for dating or marrying anyone earning less than her.

Bonnie & Clyde, too. Their culture was bombarded with it, and it wasn't by accident.

I suppose it's easier to have a devil-may-care attitude when life's spat you out, and the person is on the bottom rung of the ladder. That lifelong white-collar safety net is rather comforting and enticing for many people. I can understand it. I guess it's a case of where someone's prepared to draw the line.

It happens. It proves you're brain is functioning. I wish that people's loyalty was rewarded by "proof." It makes so much difference, and makes the tough times and a confused and chattering humanity easier to bear.

Self-responsibility and faith in something bigger than yourself. I find that's a good starting point.

Was Pirthiya indistinguishable in temperament and spirituality from Guru Arjan Dev Ji, his own brother? Heck, do any of their descendants have the same level of character and demeanour? Human nature finds a way to the surface. This wasn't a secret in Guru Sahib's lifetimes. Some of the people they associated with made mistakes; betrayed them, etc. That's not a reflection on the Gurus. We aren't even in the same ballpark. I wouldn't dare to consider myself "of" the Gurus just because I'm trying to follow the path they prescribed, it doesn't matter what anyone says.

True. A knee-capping would've sufficed. Perhaps a severed finger as a permanent reminder and deterrent for not repeating his mistake.

On the positive side, it seems there's still some mardhs in our community who do what needs to be done even if they are faujis. ?? Can you imagine any NRI bespectacled, timid, uk-born office salary-man taking things into his own hands when he finds out his missus has been doing the dirty on him. He'd probably ask HER for forgiveness for her cheating on HIM, and attribute it to his bad karams.

It's amazing what some semblance of power and profile does to a man who would otherwise be considered a bit unappealing. These people, not just Kohli in particular, but the celebrity fraternity have the gall in grandstanding to the average person about how we should behave and how need to view the world. When the revolution finally arrives, I will relish seeing these so-called stars should be shunned. For too long these less than perfect people overstepped their limits. They need to be corrected, and future societies must realise these types of individuals are not to be aspired to or respected. They are, in essence, no more than whores who will do anything for the highest bidder.

Someone where along the way, perhaps around the middle of the previous century onwards, rebellion was normalised as a rite of passage for most youth. It's been fetished and lauded as a positive quality -- something to aspire to by pandering to the belief that originality and intelligence stem from rebelling -- so much so that most youngsters do it unthinkingly as if it's expected of them. Sikhs, being the sheep they are, fall for and embrance these trends with more enthusiasm than other groups. A shallow, base mentality for a shallow and base people.

I honestly hope we're not indirectly slandering the poor girl in the first post. It's just a very interesting situation. It might be completely innocuous. She really might've gone jogging in form-fitting clothing and got lost. Unlikely but you never know.

A person is more than entitled to undergo their transformation to a better self. But nobody is under any obligation to accept that person either during or after the process. Non-acceptance by a third party shouldn't be a reflection on that person's spirituality or wisdom, etc.

It depends on that pivotal turning point that causes somebody to "wake up." Where does a person draw the line? Would any guy accept a girl who was -- let me think of an extreme situation (forgive me ?) -- who'd spent her formative years partaking in sexually degenerate behaviour, culminating in being gangbanged -- but realised the error of her ways, and decided to find a respectable, low-key Singh to marry, partially in the belief that his "goodness" would provide reflect favourably upon her by keeping her own flittering conscience at bay, but also prevent others from viewing her in negative terms. Conflicting motivations yet ultimately she wanted to turn over a new leaf, and begin afresh, but without telling her partner about her past. Why does the burden of acceptance fall on the person who's in the process of being deceived? What would be the ultimate act that nobody should ever have to accept no matter how contrite the other party is, or how strongly the formerly irreligious has "seen the light." Is there a limit? Who decides?

Somewhere along the way we've allowed a certain mentality to creep in which implies that "anything and everything is permissable" in Sikhi. At the same time, an opposing idea that a Sikh who rallies against this mentality; who wishes to adhere to a framework of belief and edicts is labelled as orthodox or extreme has also taken hold. Basically, following rules is intolerant, oppressive, and ungodly, whereas just "being" is godly. It's the same pattern that's beginning to tear at the fabric of humanity across the globe. So in that sense we aren't alone. But in our unique situation, it's our duty to provide solutions to these problems that originate outside of religious circles.

A practice slalom run involving kitchen duties, doing laundry, and not talking. That'll get her into the spirit of things. Good luck.

Well, glad she's home. I hope the family can use this situation as an opportunity to introspect. I won't hold my breath.

I'm no Columbo but... "...white and grey gym leggings..." "...her normal daily walk..." "...East London..." Call me old-fashioned, but I'm guessing either her dad's dead or he's a f***** b****** if he's okay with his daughter going out for a "walk" in a part of the country that is notorious for being a hotbed of Bangla and Pakistani activity, innocuous or otherwise.

Probably was on an "excursion" with some mates. The fact that the family got a Sikh organisation involved instead of the police is interesting, as if the family has something to be concerned about. I have more to say but I'll bite my tongue. I'll probably be accused of victim shaming.

Offer him perspective. Explain to him that he's not the only one that's suffered as a result of the Corona lockdown. There's millions of kids in the same boat. The education system isn't to blame for that, and neither has it cheated him out of anything. At the point he started expressing these views, that's when you should've interjected and put him straight. Don't let his misunderstanding of the situation become an entrenched belief.

If we're being accurate and living up to specific cultural stereotypes, the person saying Namaste should've been illustrated like this: That's only fair.

Where's the image of a pair of bare brown buttocks defecating in the middle of a busy street?

Alright, steady on, I've just eaten. ? ?

The studies and anecdotal evidence from other sources would suggest otherwise. In our seemingly humble little community, a young woman (with her best years ahead of her) earning £45,000 would never deign to lower herself by agreeing to marry a male making "only" £35,000. Women on £100k would only ever marry a partner with a lower salary out of absolute desperation for obvious ticking-clock related reasons. And those aren't even the types who are content to embrace the spinster life.