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  1. will they do Chaupai Sahib properly with full kabyo baach benti and Arril bani read when performing amrit sanchar? Many months ago I listened to Rehraas Sahib paat at Park Avenue gurdwara and Chaupai Sahib was cut, so I don't have full confidence.
  2. Ranjit Singh probably took pahul from Budha Dal at a young age. Guru ji created instruments, it doesn't matter which Guru created instruments. When Bhai Satta and Balwand were temporarily excommunicated, Guru Arjan gave hukam to the gursikhs to start playing tanti saaj and to pick up the instruments such as rabab. Jori uses half of a mridang, I don't think this is called tabla? Rabab has been part of sikh tradition since Guru Nanak and Bhai Mardana... Guru Gobind Singh's sikhs performed aasa di vaar in tanti saaj outside even during battles as Guru ji ordered this during one battle, the gursikhs didn't make excuses like today's sikhs! maybe dholki is used now but I think the puraatan gursikhs used mridang since Guru Nanak times.
  3. I worked in IT support and still work in tech support. First thing you need to do is change your number, and in the meanwhile just put your phone into airplane mode or take the sim out. Make sure you backup your all your stuff, whether into cloud like Google Drive, Onedrive, Dropbox etc. Or might be easier to move your stuff to memory card or USB memory stick. Then you should factory reset your whole phone. And stop using that online account the hackers have. Also you must report to the police!
  4. udasis and sewapanthis aren't khalsa sects and are sikh sampradaiye. Due to not being part of khalsa, they do not cause division in the khalsa and behave as part of wider sikh panth, in a bohpanti sikh panth. Those sampradaiye existed at the time of dal khalsa and didn't cause issues, and helped support sikhs and gurdwaras and seva. To include these sampradaiye in divisions of khalsa is completely illogical ! To be honest it doesn't really make sense to include bedis and nirmalay either because their roles didn't interfere with the main khalsa panth the way today's jathas and sgpc try to control! Normally Every Singh took pahul from Budha Dal and then either stayed with dal khalsa and had the one panthic maryada, or maybe went into their life or grihast jeevan, maybe joining Maharaja Ranjit Singh's army or whatever they wanted, but still keeping the dal panth maryada, and theres other went onto some sect or dera to follow their maryada... None of this stuff with "take amrit from my jatha and follow our maryada" and "we are the correct khalsa way", there just was't any of this ego or erosion present! The issue NOW is there are sects and divisions within the khalsa! Don't worry about sects outside of the khalsa, those have always existed going all the way to Udasis, and only aim to spread prachar and bring people into sikhi! some sects such as panch khalsa diwan with Bhasauria, jathas and sgpc must take the blame for mutilating chaupai sahib and printing gutkas throughout last century with this presentation! harmonium is maybe nostalgic, however if we really are independent from colonial rule, then we should not use it over Guru Arjan dev ji's hukam of using tanti saaj for raag keertan! nostalgia is one thing but Guru is always main thing!
  5. well the fact he wore bana, and also I can see often wearing shastar in the photos, both of these combined are an actual connection to Akal Bunga in some way! HE is the connection! Now it makes even more sense why the gurdwara was named Akal Bunga. Did he pass away young? Does the gurdwara follow any specific maryada such as dal panth Budha Dal maryada or similar?
  6. I would like to find out more about Sant Baba Mani Singh ji please? Also why is the gurdwara called Akal Bunga Sahib and what is the connection with Akali Bunga/ Akal Takht?
  7. will the mods be ok if we call out some groups for butchering chaupai sahib at amrit sanchar? On the top of the list is SGPC... The rest of the list, could be risky....
  8. make sure they read Chaupai Sahib properly, and not one of those shankawadi amrit sanchars where they stop reading bani because they ran out of bentiyaan!
  9. Tie in a boonga, and I hear that maryada is that sikhs should be trying boonga anyway.
  10. yeh so I just combined both of them since both can have the same issues and both can have their stuff forgotten by distancing with time and social circles. Even divorce can be hidden by moving to another country. Yes exactly. I think so many females are using make up now we can't see their natural skin glow anymore.
  11. I wonder if chand-tora is recognised by modern hindus, especially connecting to Shiv/Shiva?
  12. she just has to adjust her make up for age I think it someone has a bad rep or some other excess baggage such as ex partners, then if they put a few years distance between those events and getting married, then a lot of the bad rep stuff becomes a distant memory. Also during that time changing social circles, such as if the stuff was done at school then going to university (maybe far away) and losing contact with school friends, or if the stuff was at university then graduating and then ditching that social group (works even better for those who went university far away). And if they were doing stuff at work, then there's probably no choice but to switch jobs, although in a big company switching departments may work? Even after all that, exes can still pop-up out of nowhere and ruin a marriage (yaari is hard to hide), even for those pretty hoes, although there's a good chance people with reps will ruin the marriage themselves anyway! I know some women have difficulty conceiving in their 30s, must be difficult to have children in 40s!
  13. So I saw naamdharis pop-up on my youtube on my TV, it was some programme in Canada with their current Guru and even their really famous top Raag Keertani was doing a speech. So I was just fast-backwarding through the video (I think because it was live on youtube you reverse instead of forward), and I saw them doing the ardaas. I was curious to listen to how they do the ardaas. Then I head the notorious patshahi 12 barvi mentioned at the start of the ardaas. Since the 1st pauri of Chandi Di Vaar is universal in sikh ardaas, then how can naamdharis change patshahi 10 dasvi to patshahi 12 barvi if it's technically changing 1st pauri of chandi di vaar? Also why only 12 if they have had more Gurus now who they do name in the ardaas?
  14. still wears a pagh (and that hindi movie even put an aad chand on his turban for some reason)
  15. it's only when modern Sikhs let go of their jatha egoes and start understanding the rehitnamas and itihasic granths, then they will understand the value of da khalsa and what dal khalsa achieved!
  16. punjabis would have had dharmik values, or otherwise islamic values since many were muslims as well
  17. Tell me more about the Singh who plays tabla in a different way. I feel like he would have enjoyed playing a different drum instrument but was limited to the thinking of those times. Also the front of harmoniums look different these days, anybody know why they changed in modern times? I also see that Bhai Randhir Singh holds harmonium in a different way, diagonally. I just feel he would have enjoyed Tanti Saaj instruments especially due to the way he holds the harmonium, but again was limited due to the sangat and music teachers available due to the colonial times! Oh how things would have been different and we would have so many raag keertan rehnsbai! I also like the aad chand he wears in some photos, I am unsure if this picture is trying to show the aad chand. Dhan Guru Arjan Dev ji, we will follow your hukam and bring tanti saaj back to the panth!
  18. one of the clearest anti Dasam Granth corruptions is the way Kabyo Baach Benti Chaupai is cut and read by jathas and SGPC, and the gurdwaras they occupy such as Harimandir Sahib. It's a case of hiding anti dasam actions in clear sight where panth will not notice. At least sampradaiye don't buy into this, but this regular anti-dasam corruption affects a huge proportion of mainstream sikhs especially their nitnem and even amrit sanchar ceremonies! As for sects, there were always non-khalsa sects in sikh panth, and they can make any kind of sect or dera maryada they want. The problem is when sects started getting created and made their own amrit dharis and khalsa maryadas. Also Nirmala sects are allowed their own dera maryadas because their function is education and gyaan as opposed to fighting battles. But this goes too far when SGPC and jathas start making their own maryadas... Actually, even Naamdharis are a sect which splits the Khalsa and needs to somehow be reintegrated back into khalsa panth.
  19. omgosh what the heck is this? and who is Queen Bee? That video doesn't look like anybody that has converted to islam. In fact us sikhs should be complaining about these videos, does she have a tiktok to leave comments?
  20. you broke amrit? Is it an object you can break? 17 isn't really young for Pahul I don't think!
  21. I have always been poor at amrit vela, and my nitnem got disrupted when I started working and doing Masters. Few years ago, I was driving to work and listening to bhangra while doing a tiring commute. I thought to myself, bhangra music is just tiring me, why don't I listen to nitnem because I don't get time to do it anymore because of work!? So that is when I started listening to nitnem on commutes for different jobs like driving or travelling on train or bus, and usually reading paat on weekends. So nowadays I often listen to nitnem on playlist saved on my phone, how much nitnem I listen to depends on when I woke up and how busy my workshift is. I have been working remote since lockdown so this is much easier for me. If I can, I sometimes read japji Sahib and maybe Jaap Sahib, or maybe more, depends on the day or how tired I am. Occasionally listen to Asa Di Vaar. But without fail listen to at least some of my nitnem playlist. Usually evenings I listen to Sodar Rehras and Aarti and keertan from Hajoor Sahib from Youtube, although I have playlists setup if I don't have much time. One day I hope to be able to wake up and go listen to amrit vela nitnem in gurdwara sahib, although in the pend have been able to listen to this on village speaker. Stay in Chardi kala, nitnem is regularly possible with techonology, and if you miss amrit vela make sure to still do your nitnem later. And still, if you wake up late, you must still do Japji Sahib and Jaap Sahib. If you aren't going to read paat then use technology to listen without fail. Chardi Kala!!
  22. I thin keshdhari families need to have loads of children. Due to events like 1947, 1984 and continuing killings of Singhs, we cannot have small numbers. Look at the dharmi fauji families, or families where sons were killed during encounters and 1984. Many of these families just have the old men alive without any further generations. This is what small numbers do. Look at Bhai Mani Singh ji, he had Uncles who were martyred for Guru Hargobind ji wars, and Bhai Mani Singh had 2 wives and many children. We know how he was sacrificed and some of his sons have given shaheedi as well. Instead of wasting timing dating and making girlfriends, keshdharis, and especially proper kshatriya rehitee Singhs like Nihang Singhs, should have multiple wives and many children. This will ensure survival as well as cancelling out a lot of the many mona punjabi families who are just behaving disgracefully these days and bringing everyone down. Allow these dating Singhs that say "I am just getting to know her", lol they aren't bringing bhujangis into the panth. We need a kshatriya mentality where we have numbers to protect our community. Singh families with numbers will also influence mona families. Small keshdhari families are also at risk of negative influence if they have many mona relatives, unless of course they have access to good sangat!
  23. I really don't think those families are interested in continuing sikhi and sometimes marrying our of culture can be a good thing for them instead of corrupting sikh families. Some of these girls will mess up sikh families, there are exceptions, some girls will follow sikhi better if she marries into a good family. It's a gamble though with these girls from these families, especially if they are drinking or hookah/sheesha smoking girls, maybe dressing nangi on instagram, or demanding clean shaven or haircut; then it's probably best to stay away from these families instead of marrying!
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