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  1. I thin keshdhari families need to have loads of children. Due to events like 1947, 1984 and continuing killings of Singhs, we cannot have small numbers. Look at the dharmi fauji families, or families where sons were killed during encounters and 1984. Many of these families just have the old men alive without any further generations. This is what small numbers do. Look at Bhai Mani Singh ji, he had Uncles who were martyred for Guru Hargobind ji wars, and Bhai Mani Singh had 2 wives and many children. We know how he was sacrificed and some of his sons have given shaheedi as well. Instead of wasting timing dating and making girlfriends, keshdharis, and especially proper kshatriya rehitee Singhs like Nihang Singhs, should have multiple wives and many children. This will ensure survival as well as cancelling out a lot of the many mona punjabi families who are just behaving disgracefully these days and bringing everyone down. Allow these dating Singhs that say "I am just getting to know her", lol they aren't bringing bhujangis into the panth. We need a kshatriya mentality where we have numbers to protect our community. Singh families with numbers will also influence mona families. Small keshdhari families are also at risk of negative influence if they have many mona relatives, unless of course they have access to good sangat!
  2. I really don't think those families are interested in continuing sikhi and sometimes marrying our of culture can be a good thing for them instead of corrupting sikh families. Some of these girls will mess up sikh families, there are exceptions, some girls will follow sikhi better if she marries into a good family. It's a gamble though with these girls from these families, especially if they are drinking or hookah/sheesha smoking girls, maybe dressing nangi on instagram, or demanding clean shaven or haircut; then it's probably best to stay away from these families instead of marrying!
  3. things have been bad since covid lockdowns. I have been observing university sikh societies which used to bring this information such as grooming to young sikhs. Some of the West London sikh societies have either closed down or are inactive, or barely active. Even the Oxford university sikh society seems to have closed down or become inactive. Universities had good reach for people who don't bother attending gurdwara. Places like Southall have many gurdwaras and I know the migrants usually attend the gurdwaras, especially on Sundays. So it's important the gurdwaras do these talks regularly! I feel many of these migrants with the hedgehog haircuts, or the Pakistani look, aren't going to be good with protecting their daughters, especially the ones who have the wives who are too busy doing fashion and makeup and adopting questionable clothes when they come uk, sometimes so much that they don't have time to tie their sons' jooras so just end up giving them haircuts!
  4. yes, the divisions are definitely created by our dushman. Once we lost our raaj, the divisions were created in the form of jathas and committees. and came out to play and confuse the panth!
  5. I really feel most of the "gur"sikhs in this pic come from a certain jatha, although there are a few other Singhs such as mahapurakh like baba Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale, I don't really see much panthic unity from this pic. That is just my viewpoint unfortunately... I supposed the right hand side represents shaheed Singhs from the last century, and I am unsure about the Singhs near Guru Granth Sahib maharaj. And I am very excited to see Tanti Saaj as a regular representation in Harimandir Sahib as was the case in puraatan times and pictures, as opposed to the archaic Harmonium.
  6. Does this family like Nihang Singhs, looks like they were excluded from this Harimandir Sahib pic for more favoured personailities! Hopefully harmonium in harimandir Sahib pictures will be rare, it's good to see that pictures were created centuries back to represent proper sikh instruments and well done to Akal Takht jathedaar to start the process for kicking harmonium out from Harimandir Sahib. Good riddance to the colonial era of harmonium at Harimandir Sahib, a very bad representation the panth has made compared to how Guru Arjan Dev ji and sangat greatly promoted Tanti Saaj keertan in Harimandir Sahib.
  7. You mean like they used to do many years ago.... ? IF you go back some years you will see people blocked and threads closed quickly, just because there was something discussed that didn't agree with certain sikh groups. Some of the rules on this forum are an extension of the paranoia of beliefs from the wider sikh sangat.
  8. interesting, do tell more. There are probably sources such as suraj prakash and others to look at right? This really irks me. I used to be in London uni sikh societies in the 2000s and that's when they started corrupting Mai Bhago's name. And then in the last decade sikh groups started doing the same to Mata Gujari Ji. And it's always the groups dealing with youth and young children who push these. And I feel it's coming from certain jathas which don't follow itihasic granths!
  9. hi everyone. so I found out what Nupur Sharma actually said. Nupur said that Mohammed married a 6 year old girl. The muslims say this is true. the reason they are upset is because a non-muslim is saying this, and they say a non-muslim cannot say this because it is criticising the prophet!
  10. will try to watch it later. But it's crazy to see people won' cut it for muslims but will vut their hair for whiteman gora recognition. We shouldn't be wanting anyone's recognition beside Guru. As soon as persons put someone else between Guru and themselves, then they fall down!
  11. I didn't know his dad was keshdhari. But I remember from the photos it showed sikhs being forcefully haircut and being forced into islam in Rawalpindi. Those sikhs saw kesh as their strength and commitment to Guru sahib so either died fighting or were beaten into cutting them. When someone from those families that left Pakistan cuts their hair, especially in cases like Rawalpindi and other genocide areas, it spits on their memories and sacrifices, in a way making them worse as cowards and wimps that cut their hair due to sheep mentality as opposed to being tough and strong until forced by violent extremism. It also ESPECIALLY makes it worse as these were families who escaped anti-sikh genocide relatively recently as opposed to those who have to look at shaheedi such as chotta and wadda ghallughara as examples in the past.
  12. but they cut their hair, so didn't completely escape and left part of themselves behind to the islamic extremism.
  13. yo, they gave him an aad chand on the pagh. I just can't figure out why though???
  14. https://youtu.be/IQxy5gRMB24 ਤੰਤੀ ਸਾਜਾਂ ਦੀ ਗੱਲ ਨੂੰ ਤੋੜ-ਮਰੋੜ ਕੇ ਪੇਸ਼ ਕਾਰਨ ਵਾਲੇ ਜਰੂਰ ਸੁਣਨ | Tanti Saaj and harmonium Conversation
  15. And how regressive it is to translate something so deep into the word God, and start bani translations with "God is One" or "there is One God", oh how low have we fallen!
  16. didn't singh sabha lehar also remove and rip-up saroops of dasam granth from gurdwaras? which means the maryada might just be anti-dasam and still be beadbi...
  17. well it worked the other way round didn't it, when they replaced rabab with harmonium. Even Mardana's descendants in pakistan play harmonium, so they maneged to replace a string instrument with harmonium yes but this effect does make a difference in thought and feeling etc! being anti-tradition and hinduphobic has made sikhs more naastik, such as being anti-dasam, anti-dhup, anti-jyot and calling these things bamanwaad and superstitious, and also creating a naastik shankawaadi version of chaupai sahib
  18. isn't beadbi of dasam bani a massive issue? It was happening at my mona relatives' house.
  19. ਜੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਉਪਜਾਏ ॥ ਤਿਨ ਤਿਨ ਅਪਨੇ ਰਾਹ ਚਲਾਏ ॥ ਮਹਾਦੀਨ ਤਬ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਉਪਰਾਜਾ ॥ ਅਰਬ ਦੇਸ ਕੋ ਕੀਨੋ ਰਾਜਾ ॥੨੬॥ਤਿਨ ਭੀ ਏਕ ਪੰਥ ਉਪਰਾਜਾ ॥ ਲਿੰਗ ਬਿਨਾ ਕੀਨੇ ਸਭ ਰਾਜਾ ॥ਸਭ ਤੇ ਅਪਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਯੋ ॥ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਨ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਯੋ ॥੨੭॥ जे प्रभु परम पुरख उपजाए ॥ तिन तिन अपने राह चलाए ॥ महादीन तब प्रभ उपराजा ॥ अरब देस को कीनो राजा ॥२६॥तिन भी एक पंथ उपराजा ॥ लिंग बिना कीने सभ राजा ॥सभ ते अपना नामु जपायो ॥ सति नामु काहूं न द्रिड़ायो ॥२७॥ All the great Purushas created by me started their own paths. Then I created Muhammed, who was made the master of Arabia.26. He started a religion and circumcised all the kings.He caused all to utter his name and did not give True Name of the Lord with firmness to anyone.27.
  20. so I wonder what impact playing and listening to harmonium has had on the sikh panth since last century?
  21. ok. it's scholars and revisionists who added their manmatt into sgpc maryada, they are still given free reign and will do so until sikh leadership gets better and more traditional.
  22. I remember I went to a Sukhmani Sahib paat some months before lockdown, and the paati started reading kabyo baach benti and went straight to swaiya without reading Kripa kari hum jagmata. So is it rude to interrupt the paati with the rest of Kabyo Baach Chaupai Sahib, or maybe even is it rude to not interrupt, ie rude to stay quiet? I am just thinking for if this happens at another family gathering in a house. Not asking for a big gurdwara programme, for that need a jatha of Singhs/sikhs to interrupt lol!
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