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AAP is CIA controlled apoarently:

Seems that farm laws were supported by the majority of farmers, and the Supreme Court was well aware but did nothing. So who were the real controllers? Perhaps AAP was involved and hence why they are able to take advantage of Punjab. 

The farmers protest were also aimed at UP it seems. 

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

I don't get what's going on to be honest. 

Seems to me that AAP is trying to become the new Centre to replace BJP as the main opposition. 

For that they are emulating the BJP to cause confusion.  Their money power (probably from abroad/Congress) is being used to entice people using freebies and to show they are more than capable contenders.  Their policies will be a copy/paste of Western policies. High taxes, socialist mode of govt where Western corporations will be allowed to take root in Punjab. McDonald's et al. 

After decimating it for decades they will be able to show an improvement in the economy to justify 1st position. 

The govt will award contracts to their favoured corporations. Stage 2 of crony capitalism and slow Western takeover. Don't forget that Bhagat Singh was a Commie, their chosen hero of Punjab. 

Let's see if the youth like what they do. 

23 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

For the past few years I get the impression they've stopped bothering to cover their tracks, because they're comfortable in the fact they've managed to create a society where Wrong and Right are relative values. They're almost at the stage of openly goading the people as if to say, "You can't do anything to stop us." They're right, though.

They have enough technology and intelligence to control everything. The Internet of Things.

They know what they're doing. It's called depopulation. Been planned for decades if not longer. 

The answer is to remove this power. But how? 

14 hours ago, BhForce said:

Wow, when are you going to respond to my point that the people of Punjab don't need and don't want outside corporations to take over the jobs that Punjabis are already doing (such as farming and delivering produce). It is a different matter if a corporation were to come and do something new, like 
https://in.indeed.com/Quark-jobs-in-Mohali,-Punjab?vjk=f9f35c546fe37b69

As for your article (read at https://archive.is/eM5fe to avoid paywall), it says nothing other than Ambani/Adani deny wanting to get into agriculture/distribution. And that they were targeted because they are a symbol of cronyism.

Well, they can deny all they want, it doesn't matter. And they are cronyists.

Why should the people of Punjab (or India) tolerate undue concentration of economic power in a few corporate houses? That was the exact reason that President Teddy Roosevelt used the Sherman Anti-Trust Act to break apart monopolies in the US.

Was Teddy Roosevelt a Sikh "attvaadi"? 
 

I don't disagree that corporations have undue power and influence. That is due to their influence over politicians to remove laws protecting small businesses. Such as the Monopolies and Mergers Commission that was disbanded in the UK to allow unchecked growth and corrupt practices ie. Bribing councils and engaging corporates to sit in executive positions. 

At the same time allowing them to keep more of their profits and paying themselves salaries and benefits that have created a huge wedge between the haves and have nots. 

These influences include setting policies such as Common Purpose to ensure councils do their bidding. 

Without small firms the economy remains stagnant as money at the top does not 'trickle down' as claimed. 

Hence the need for Dharmic Economies where most of the wealth is at the bottom. Higher castes aren't allowed to accumulate wealth as they are responsible for governing, education and defence. They were paid an amount to sustain their needs. 

The only answer is to encourage small businesses, bring in laws to curb corrupt practices.  And take action against corruption ie. Legal action to confiscate ill gotten gains or a wealth tax at 100% esp for the C19 plandemic. 

As well as force the banks to ensure they stop printing money that cannot be honoured. Money is an IOU. The real value is in gold or assets. 

8 hours ago, BhForce said:

First of all, you made no attempt to refute @MisterrSingh's post.

Second, that's completely the reverse of the situation. Corporations had deliberately been kept out of Punjab for decades because the Indian government said it was a "border region". Well, so is Rajasthan, Gujarat, and West Bengal!

Additionally, the "corporations" you speak of would not be bring in new jobs or technologies (like, say Quark in Mohali). Rather, they would be taking over from Punjabis already doing the work of farming, distributing, and selling produce. What would the benefit be other than corporations would be getting money rather than Punjabis?

Unwilling to diversify? There's no point to taking up productive farmland and putting factories on it. On the other hand, it's fine to put up factories on unproductive land.

Anyways, you (Indian govt) have to decide what you want Punjab to do. Provide grain to India or not?

And if "the free market" is so great, then why don't you let us sell  our output to whichever customer wants to buy it, including across the border?

Corporations have been chased out of Punjab. See my post where I've tagged you.

The corporation that moved to UP were dealing in mobile phones and communication technology creating thousands of much needed jobs in Punjab.

Alot of farmland is being used to produce low quality wheat and sugar which is then used to produce alcohol.  Thus destroying the youth. 

Punjab needs to diversify rather than rely on govt to buy their substandard produce. 

Selling overseas involves the centre and policy as laws and export taxes are involved. There is no totally Free Market anywhere, as far as I'm aware. All markets are manipulated esp when corporations are involved. 

3 hours ago, proactive said:

Your mickey mouse rupee is a joke. I remember when the pound was worth Rs 30, now it's over 100. You have to exchange your mickey mouse rupees when they get soiled or dirty for a discount. The government can't even create notes which can last more than a few months. 

Yes, I will toast the destruction of your artificial country that is a creation of the British. 

Your knowledge of history might be considered a joke too. 

The rupee was printed mostly in the UK until the current govt became aware of the hugh losses through fake notes printed in Pakistan that were creating corruption and the impacting on the economy. Hence why it is moving towards online transactions. 

We can both look forward to Akhand Bharat as and when British India is dismantled. 

On 3/17/2022 at 4:57 PM, MisterrSingh said:

Sounds like you're pedalling Indian state propaganda to justify and conceal observable psy-ops.

You mean you're not aware of this?

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/south-asia/article/3118078/why-indias-mukesh-ambani-and-gautam-adani-were-targeted

@BhForce Here's my response just published.

@S1ngh Any chance of lifting sanctions for good behaviour?

3 hours ago, proactive said:

Kashmiris are not fighting now, a majority of the militants are Pakistanis. The Kashmiri leadership has sold out just as our leadership sold out after operation Bluestar.  The Muftis, Shahs and Abdullahs are no better than the Badals and the Captains. The Kashmiri Muslims themselves are hopelessly divided with some wanting union with Pakistan and other complete independence and many like the Gujjars and Bakarwals wanting to stay in India. Just having a militant campaign of violence does not achieve anything because all it allows the state to do is bring in more and more oppressive measures. What is open is the electoral process and the Kashmiris have been let down by their political parties. There is a place for a militant struggle BUT only after you have won the electoral battle by installing a majority government which has then declared that is wants Independence from India and then the Indian state arrests and jails its leadership. If that happened in Kashmir or Punjab then the militant struggles would have had legitimacy in the eyes of most of the western democracies. The greatest fear of Rajiv Gandhi was that a SAD(Mann) government would win in Punjab in 1991 and declare Khalistan. It came close but the state used it's cats to organise a campaign of violence and to justify the postponement of the elections in May 1991 and then the subsequent boycott in 1992. 

Never underestimate the effect that a win by a separatist/nationalist  party that have in a state like Kashmir or Punjab. This is the biggest fear of the Indian state, that its claim to be the world biggest democracy would be hard to justify if the people of a state used their democratic vote to install a  party into power in their state that seeks independence from India. 

No vote can be held to be legitimate after expelling 300,000 to 500,000 of their own citizens through murder and violence. 

As well as introducing measures to exclude them from the economy. 

Then try to call it a Democracy. Lol. 

This letter to Rajiv Gandhi, from the ten Governor of India give a very clear picture of the situation in Kashmir during the period of the Genocide of KPs.  It goes on for a few pages but worth the read. 

https://t.me/dgpindia/11493

2 hours ago, proactive said:

It would have been better if the Russians sold them for these to be honest. The rupee is a pretty worthless currency.

What's Putin going to do when Modi has 500 and 1000 notes withdrawn like it happened in 2016. How many Dindus does he know that he can get to go to India and convert them to the new notes? 

Hahaha. What a joker you are! 

Have you heard of gold backed currency? Or e-currency.  Or the rupee becoming stronger in itself through wider acceptance as a medium of exchange?

You seem bent on India's destruction. 

30 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

100%. 

India has adopted psychological operations pioneered by the likes of the CIA and certain Soviet institutions, and has been bombarding Punjab with them.

The 80s physical action against Sikhs was the opening salvo of a war that is continuously occurring to this very day, except the war of the past 40 years is one of psychological pressure involving politics, economics, cultural and social propaganda.

The worst thing is NO Sikh institution in Punjab has come out and identified any of it, and there's no response aside from "pray more". There's a clear formula that's apparent to anyone who stops to observe what's going on.

Not completely true. Corporations setting up in Punjab have been driven out hence causing fear and insecurity in anyone else wishing to set up shop. 

The farmers protest added to this problem as Punjabis want to be the bread basket of Indians and therefore unwilling to diversify. 

Otherwise how is it that UP has developed so much under Yogi. 

Can't have it both ways. 

31 minutes ago, BhForce said:

You have not answered the point that if "they" (the students) had their own country, then they wouldn't need India. They would be in touch with their country's embassy.

That is mere conjecture and assumption. Otherwise why did both Pakistani and Bangladeshi students rely on India for their evacuation. 

The point being it takes more than just logistics to obtain agreement from foreign nations to get open access to a country, even for evacuation purposes. That needs diplomacy that small nations do not have and cannot afford. 

2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

A post-faith West? What Western religions (plural) would they be, then?

Let them choose any one of the Dharmic faiths!

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I don't get it. Looks like no desire to develop the economy out there? 

Once voters get addicted to freebies there's no money left for capital projects. That's the reality of socialist policies.

These freebies have to be taxpayer funded. Hence why the price of essential services is used to fund these ie. Electricity, gas, petrol, alcohol, cigarettes.

Now AAP has promised 1000rs per month to every woman in Punjab. So AAP will create a vote bank of loyal women supporters in order to stay in power forever, if they can.  We don't even know whether all women need this stipend. It can only please those living on the breadline.

They are blaming the centre for their lack of power over infrastructure. 

In Punjab they have full power so let's see how they manage development, safety and security all at once. How many new businesses can they allure to Punjab?

In Delhi they rely on Central budget to fund their projects, so let's see how they raise funds in Punjab.

There are rumours that the party is funded by foreign donors ie. ISI and CIA, no doubt to get a foot in the door of India. For what purpose other than to loot it at a later date? 

The Western model is based on high taxation in order to allow corporates to grow into Oligarchs and then force Communism on them. Watch out as my sources say AAP is taking over from Congress ie. The new party to challenge the Centre.

37 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

No one (especially those from agricultural backgrounds) have any comments on the contents of the video? 

I think much on Punjab's economy has already been discussed already. What more is there to add? 

Problems

1. Drugs and alcohol addiction of youth.

2. Lack of interest in farming and desperate to go to Western countries. 

3. High levels of Christian conversion that promote socialist policies and encourage youth to leave the country. 

4. Lack of industrialisation and trust in private businesses. Punjab also has the lowest start-up enterprises in whole of India.  Jio factory sabotaged hence creating fear and insecurity in anyone else moving their enterprise to Punjab. 

5.  Lack of diversification in farming. Reliance on MSP so focus is only on rice and wheat, water intensive crops.  Most of these crops are low quality and only good for producing alcohol and fuel. 

6.  Lack of capital investment in whole region. 

7.  With AAP Punjabis will become even more lazy due to freebies as is happening in Delhi. 

8. Protests aren't good for business or growth. 

Feel free to add your own points. 

1 hour ago, BhForce said:

The Sanghi guy is saying that people who shout for a separate state are now crying to get "home" to India. And he's laughing about it.

First of, those are not necessarily the same people.

Secondly, he's just demonstrating that India is not their country.

Third, if they had a separate country of their own, they wouldn't need to display the Indian flag on their vehicles. They'd display that country's flag.

Finally, it's not about the "power of India's flag". The only reason soldiers wouldn't shoot a car with in Indian flag is because India is not a party to the conflict. It's not about the "power" of India.

What's India going to do, bomb Ukraine or Russia?

You clearly haven't seen the videos of foreign students (Africans) being denied access to transport allowing them to leave Ukraine. 

It was only after India placed their Ministers at Borders outside Ukraine that things changed. Why Ministers? Because they have the power to declare a war if Protocol is breached. 

So why didn't any other country do this for their citizens? Such as China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, USA, UK? 

You need to get a reality check on the facts on the ground regarding India's global power and reach. 

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

It doesn't end with reading, though, does it? If education was such a boon for womankind, why is their mental health at an all-time low? It should've shot through the roof in accordance with the economies of the countries where they entered the workforce over the past 70+ years.

Problems with mental health of women is related to the Patriarchal religions of the West that treat women as chattels to be traded. 

Not the case for Dharmic women who have many Goddesses to aspire to. These women were also warriors fighting with men, as well as being involved in all aspects of the economy. Still true today. 

Evidence of US bioweapons facilities around the world including Ukraine that Putin allegedly destroyed. 

1 hour ago, proactive said:

We are one of the world's largest economies ... lol. gather a population of 1.2 billion anywhere in the world and that area's economy will be bigger than India. Bangladesh has already gone past India and it used to be called a Basketcase economy. People like Arnab have wet dreams when they cite figures like the number of billionaires in India yet they don't understand that most billionaires in India haven't earned their money through honest commerce with companies aboard but by using the system with it's inherent corruption to steal the money from the common people or from government. 

As for the military scenario, India is now hopelessly isolated. Their vote against the west and for Russia will be remembered. There was already a radio presenter on LBC who wanted to know whether the British people should boycott India. Modi is a hopeless case, for a clever Bania and a master of Chankaya niti the guy is an embarrassment. They only voted to not condemn Russia at the UN because Modi hopes that Putin can rein in China. Once Putin goes, India will have no one to support it against China. Even the Australians who India was aligning with against China are pi$$ed off with India's vote to abstain. 

Your views are very much one sided. 

Are you aware of what the Russians did to stop both the UK/USA intervening in the 1971 India-Pakistan war? The West has constantly supported Pakistan over India as Pakistan was created as a buffer state between China and India as it was these two countries that owned most of the worlds wealth up to the invasion by the British. 

India's economy is still being controlled by the West through their NGO's, Charities, Church, Media and of course Banking. Hence why there is still a huge trade gap between China and India, somewhat plugged by the current central govt. 

Not to mention the huge brain drain as a result of reservations disadvantaging deserving candidates that are forced to study abroad. 

There are 33 million cases outstanding in the district courts locking peoples' assets for decades. 

Do you think this is all by accident? 

Any stance taken by those to destroy the evil NWO designs should be welcomed by at least all Indians. If they get their way there is no hope for humanity.

As the end game is the total Enslavement of humanity by robotising them. I have seen this first hand. 

10 hours ago, proactive said:

Indian colonial policies in Punjab exactly mirror the British colonial policies in India. Just as it was in the British economic interest to turn India into a raw materials suppliers which could then be exported to Britain and then the value added finished goods in British factories which could then be sent to India to be sold, in the same way Indian colonialism keeps Punjab a underdeveloped agricultural colony. Hindi imperialism is just one aspect of  Indian colonialism. In the globalised world, Punjabis have more need for a language like English than Hindi. The only two languages than matter in Punjab should be Punjabi and English. 

Sure. I'm aware of British colonialism and how it affected the Indian economy.

However, English was imposed on Indians precisely to promote their culture, language and to ensure they controlled the economy.  It is the language of slave traders used to annihilate Indic cultures. Neither Japan nor China has such colonial hangovers and are leaders in many technological fields. 

Moreover, the world is moving away from globalisation as can be seen today. It is moving towards a decentralisation system of operation which means we will in future produce and consume locally, allowing local cultures to thrive/ be revived. 

As India is one landmass then there should be a National language and I don't believe it is English. Probably a toss between Hindi, already spoken by a great number of Indians or Sanskrit (my preference) that most Indic languages are rooted in. 

2 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

@dallysingh101 @Kau89r8 @proactive

There you go. Stealing away the panth's resources. Tbh at this point evolutionarily we dont deserve to exist. Every group wants to protect the resources for their own people. I guess natural selection will itself take us out.

When you vote for Congress or their affiliates this is what you can expect. 

7 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

There is going to be a civil war in india in the comming years. We need to be prepared. And let them kill each other, when they come for us we will see. Be prepared but dont try to be superheroes and get yourselves killed for others. we have to fight for Sikhi now . They want us to fight their wars and get killed while our own people are suffering.

Do you think Sikhs will escape from any conflict between Muslims and Hindus? You are living in a dreamland far away from reality.