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Thanks Akal_Sehna. Is the Gurdwara called 'Gurudwara Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur (Sikandra)'? It is where Guru Ji offered himself for arrest? http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Gurudwa...adur_(Sikandra) Gwalior Fort is already on my list as Bandi Chor Sahib Gurdwara Nkanak Chiray is a few hours from Dri Hazoor Sahib but well worth a visit. Theres lots of Gurdwara Looked after by Nahang Snghs around too.

have named my son Dalair Singh

Hust had this emailed to me, looks interesting so though I would share. bit more info on the book at; http://sovstar.com/products/gandhi.php "Gandhi Under Cross Examination" (Sovereign Star, 2008) http://sovstar.com/ Retired U.S. Army Col. G. B. Singh's new book has just been published. It is called "Gandhi Under Cross-Examination." It is available now at www.SovStar.com for only $14.00. Buy it before May 5th and get a 10% discount - pay only $12.50! All orders include one free informational bookmark per book. In "Gandhi: Behind the Mask of Divinity," Col. Singh revealed Mohandas Gandhi as an extreme racist who fought for segregation in South Africa and incited racial hatred in India. As documented in that book, Gandhi promoted segregation in 1895 in Durban, South Africa. He was so offended by having to share a post office door with the black Africans that he successfully campaigned for the creation of a third door for Indian use only. Singh's new book (co-authored by Dr. Tim Watson), attacks the very roots of the Gandhi mythology. It focuses on Gandhi's pivotal train journey in 1893 when he was allegedly thrown out from a first-class train compartment for refusing to give up his seat to a white man while traveling in South Africa. This humiliation supposedly galvanized him to fight against apartheid and later against British colonialism. What transpired between 1893 and 1895 that caused the alleged victim to become a perpetrator of racial hatred in Durban? Singh & Watson take the reader deep into the mind of a man who went from an alleged victim to a perpetrator of racism in only two years. They place Gandhi on the witness stand, forcing him to defend his actions and confront historical facts which betray his deceptions. Through this cross-examination they effectively corner Gandhi, exposing his divergent accounts of the famous train incident and proving it never actually happened. You have a chance to not only buy this book at a discount, but to purchase it before the official book release has even taken place! Visit www.SovStar.com to buy it now. Already bought one? Buy a second one for a friend, family member, or to give to your local library. Or forward this email to others who might be interested in helping debunk the propaganda surrounding Gandhi.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7163391.stm but i bet all the muslims can still use the word Kafir

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7163195.stm

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh, does it really matter what we wear to cover our bodies? if we are in the right mindset we dont see each other for what we wear or look like but for what we really are. we dont judge books by their covers so why judge each other by what we wear. waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

i totally agree, i do normally, its just i never sat down and thought about the times when im not intentionally listening to gurbani but its on in the background and i dont have my hair covered for whatever reason. if im doing my nitnem or reciting bani, kirtan etc i would always cover my head, that goes without saying. i sometimes jap naam while showering and while combing my hair, it helps take my mind off other things and its become a habit and i cant stop. would this also be wrong?

thank you..

this may be a silly question but am i commiting paap if i am listening to gurbani with my kesh uncovered? its just that i washed my hair and am letting it dry and the tv is on and my gran is listening to sukhmani sahib on panjab radio.

Make a Will........ ensure your family knows your wishes.

if this dont make the blood boil in our sikh brethren back in the punjab and nothing is done, then its up to us to rekindle the flame in our hearts and make people remember who we are and what we stand for. we cant let the world think we can be walked over, Punjab sikhi may have been compromised but that doesnt mean we all have to lie down and be walked all over. we have a choice, we can moan and <admin-profanity filter activated> about what our fellows in the Punjab and in India are and are not doing or we can counter the bad publicity by being even better sikhs in all the other places around the world and be noticed and respected. Its not what your religion can do for you, its about what you can do for your religion........ (i dont believe i just said that.. )

Wjkk Wjkf i feel demoralised by the few who, while in a gursikhs roop, are alienating our youngsters by their antics. There are very few rolemodels for our younger generations that actually do what they preach. just one prime example is the antics of so called gursikhs at the gurudawara when its time to vote in a new commitee. Please dont think im having a go at gursikhs because there are always 2 parties involved, but the gursikhs are the roop of our religion and the ones that our kids should be looking up to. so whereas the kids should be looking up to these people they feel like, well if all this crap can go on at the gurudawara and people are fighting each other, pulling off each others dastaara and unsheathing their sri sahibs in front of guru ji, why should we even bother. but getting back to the point, i dont think Sikhs in the Uk are cowards, i think theyve had enough and cant be ar$3d any more and think they should look after number one, their family and stay out of anyone else business. we need to start helping each other and become a tight community. bhul chuk maaf karnee. Wjkk Wjkf

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7048403.stm Family anger over police killers By Chris Morris BBC News, Delhi The case has generated saturation media coverage Family members of two businessmen murdered by a group of policemen over 10 years ago in India have called for them to be sentenced to death. A court on Monday found 10 police officers guilty of murdering the pair, Pradeep Goyal and Jagjit Singh, in broad daylight in the heart of Delhi. The police officers will be sentenced next week. Mr Goyal and Mr Singh were shot dead in their car. The police involved argued that they mistook them for gangsters. To cover up their error, the police planted a pistol in the car - located in Connaught Place in the heart of the city - and claimed the occupants had opened fire first. The court rejected their defence out of hand. Coruscating criticism Over the years there have been constant legal delays, but eventually the system has prevailed. "Yes it took ten years," Jagjit Singh's father, Niranjan Singh, told the BBC. "Yes, we were pushed around, but we never stopped believing that we would get justice." It is claimed that Delhi police are becoming more professional This though is a rather rare example. The police are not often brought to book - and even in this case, the man in charge, Delhi's then police chief, has escaped any punishment. In fact, he is now a member of parliament for the governing Congress Party. The campaigning lawyer Colin Gonsalves, who runs the Delhi-based Human Rights Law Network, is coruscating in his criticism. "The police are trigger happy," he told the BBC. "They have a licence to kill, and the judiciary over the last 10 years has turned a blind eye to killings by the police mainly because it's poor people who are executed." Mr Gonsalves says the Connaught Place verdict is a welcome development, but that "for this one instance I would say there have been 200 cases in courts where the police have got away scot-free." The police over a period have been losing trust in this country Senior Indian police officer Kiran Bedi It is a grim picture - but one which many Indians would recognise - of corrupt police officers, and even more corrupt politicians. But there are those within the system who say enough is enough, and that things are changing. Kiran Bedi is India's most senior female police officer - she has been a vocal advocate of reform, but admits that much more needs to be done. "This was the way that justice was delivered... it was like street justice. But it's in the past," she argues. "You can't act like that and get away with it any more." There are some signs that that may be true. Unreported or ignored A court in Punjab yesterday increased the prison sentences given to four policemen found guilty of killing a Sikh human rights activist. And in Calcutta a court has ordered the Central Bureau of Investigation to conduct an inquiry into the controversial death of a local man, Rizwanur Rehman. But plenty of other killings go unreported or ignored. "The police over a period have been losing trust in this country," Kiran Bedi admits, "and we need to regain a huge amount of ground, and the sooner the better." At the site of the shooting in Connaught Place, there are all the signs of India's booming economy - busy people, thriving trade and a country on the up. But as India rises towards global power, it needs to get many parts of its house in order. For the ordinary citizen, this is still a place where justice can be desperately hard to come by.

wjkk wjkf since when did we get the right to decide, or even debate, on who lives and who dies? wjkk wjkf

i can talk to him in any language he understands.

my offer stands, if u dont get any joy from the college or police, PM me the details and i can go hav a friendly chat with him.

Penji, pm ure college details and the guys name, then leave it to me.

Had this emailed to me; Good Afternoon, The following is a Press Release from Superintendent Kevin Donohoe, Garda Press & Public Relations Officer, on behalf of the Garda Commissioner. Garda Uniform - Press Statement I am directed by the Garda Commissioner to refer to the above matter and particularly to the vast amount of media coverage and opinion being expressed by a variety of people. The purpose of this press statement is to outline how and why this decision was taken by the Garda Commissioner. There is no doubt that the Garda uniform and dress standards present unique issues in accommodating cultural diversity. These are challenges faced by all facets of Irish society as diversity and integration more and more become real issues. The Garda Síochána has, historically, been seen as providing an impartial police service, policing all sections of society equally. By accommodating variations to our standard uniform and dress, including those with religious symbolism, may well affect that traditional stance and give an image of An Garda Síochána which the Commissioner feels the public would not want. The Garda Commissioner has set the required standards of dress and behaviour for An Garda Síochána and these standards are binding on all members of the organisation. Within the principles of an intercultural approach An Garda Síochána are not advocating one religious belief over another, nor are we, in any way, being racist. We are attempting to firmly retain an image of impartiality while providing a state service to all citizens. The decisions regarding our integration policy, including that of the wearing of a turban, were not made on a whim, but rather following extensive research and consultations. In March, 2006, the Garda Commissioner established a group to examine the issues relating to integration of religious and ethnic minorities into An Garda Síochána and the development of appropriate supports. That group undertook substantial research and engaged in a wide consultation process. Bodies consulted included:- National Consultative Committee on Racism & Interculturalism; The Equality Authority; public & private bodies both in this jurisdiction and overseas, including other police services and a number of consultants specialising in the area of diversity & integration. There are three clear identifiable models of integration which can be followed and each of these have been examined. Assimilation aims at making minority groups almost invisible by assimilating them fully into the culture of their new environment, whereas the multicultural approach aims to accommodate all differences, which in itself does little to promote interaction. It is now accepted by many that a more modern, energetic approach is required to integrate diverse populations into a common liberal culture. An Garda Síochána believes that the intercultural approach can achieve this through reasonable and common-sense measures. Within the intercultural approach – common sense and reasonable measures – An Garda Síochána has made many advancements including:- Entry requirements to the organisation were changed to allow and encourage those of different backgrounds and cultures to qualify for membership; The Garda Racial and Intercultural Office was established in 2001 to oversee and advise on these issues; In excess of 500 Garda Ethnic Liaison Officers have been appointed throughout the organisation to implement the integration policies at the front line; A training package, Diversity ‘Works’, is being rolled out across the organisation to increase awareness of diversity issues; A Human Rights Audit of Garda practices, policies, processes and procedures was undertaken and it’s findings published; An Action Plan was devised and is being implemented across the organisation to address the criticisms of the Audit; Special dietary arrangements (for choice, medical or religious reasons) are now in place at the Garda College; Spiritual and pastoral care across a number of religions are provided for Garda members and this will be added to as needs arise; The Garda Síochána Diversity Strategy & Implementation Plan will shortly be signed off by the Commissioner. These initiatives, including that of dress standards, comply fully with the intercultural approach adopted by An Garda Síochána, with the sole aim of ensuring the integrity of the organisation and its capacity to provide an impartial service to the citizens of this State. The increasing range of diversity in modern Ireland will continue to present challenges for all of us, not least An Garda Síochána. To effectively achieve integration of many cultures into a single organisation, will require a very fluid approach and policies and practices will be altered and adjusted where appropriate. However, the Garda Commissioner is satisfied that the intercultural approach and the decisions made within that framework, to date, is the right approach at this time for An Garda Síochána and the communities it is sworn to serve. Kevin Donohoe Superintendent Head of Garda Press & Public Relations 23rd August 2007. Sergeant Kieran Goulding, Appointments & Admissions Section, Human Resource Management, Garda HQ, Phoenix Park, Dublin 8. + 353 1 6662364

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Government Response 2, 19 July 2007You recently signed a petition asking the Prime Minister to "Abolish plans to build a £100 million mega Mosque." The Prime Minister's Office has responded to that petition and you can view it here: http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page12552.asp Prime Minister's OfficeGovernment Response 1, 18 May 2007, while petition was still openThe e–petition asking the Prime Minister to ‘Abolish plans to build a £100 million mega Mosque’ has closed. This response from the Government was issued in advance of the closing date. Under planning legislation, local planning authorities are responsible for the day to day control of development in their area. In doing so they are required to take into account all material considerations including the views of interested persons and particularly local communities. With respect to the proposal associated with a site near the Olympic development in Newham, we understand from Newham Council that there is no current planning permission or application for a mosque and Newham Council do not expect a planning application in the near future. The Government believes that where controversial issues such as this arise, all involved should ensure that discussions are conducted in a manner that respects the views of all sections of our communities and in a way that does not raise tensions in local areas. Update: Mayor Ken Livingstone addresses some of the issues regarding this petition, read the statement below: "It has been brought to the attention of the Greater London Authority that a number of untrue reports are being circulated suggesting that the Mayor of London or other public authorities are planning to spend up to £100 million of public money on a new mosque in East London. "The Mayor wishes to make it absolutely clear that these reports are entirely untrue. There are not now, and have never been, any plans by the Mayor or Greater London Authority spend any public money on such mosque. Indeed, it would be illegal for the Mayor of London to do so. Suggestions of a link between plans for a mosque and the 2012 Olympic Games are equally untrue, as are suggestions of the enormous size of any planned mosque. "Equally, there is no current planning permission or application for a mosque and Newham Council do not expect a planning application in the near future. "These facts have been in the public domain for a considerable period of time. The circulation of these manifestly untrue reports seems to be designed to bring influence to bear on a petition in relation to such a mosque on the No10 Downing Street website. "It is quite clear that the circulation of untrue information of this kind can damage good community relations. "All religious faiths have the equal right to construct places of worship, subject to the appropriate planning permissions. The particularly vicious nature of the campaign against a possible Muslim place of worship in East London should be condemned by all of those who support the long established right of freedom of religion in this country, and all the more so as it is based on information which has long been established to be factually untrue." Further information Department for Communities and Local Government - http://www.communities.gov.uk/ Department for Culture, Media and Sport - http://www.culture.gov.uk/ Get all the latest news from No.10 by subscribing to our email service. - http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page36.asp Prime Minister's Office homepage - http://www.pm.gov.uk/

wjkk wjkf http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/6966497.stm lets pray for her and her family. wjkk wjkf

STOP AGROVATING A VERY VERY RARE ISSUE, THAT NEARLY MOST OF THE TIME IS SELF INFLICTED BY WILLING CONVERTED SIKH GIRLS. very rare issue? Well mr Ranj, in the past week i have heard of 2 instances of muslims lads following lone sikh women drivers around asking them to pull over. one of theses instances happened to a friend of mine, shed been shopping at a supermarket and got in her car and a group of muslim lads started following her and flashing their headlights and asking her to pull over and i dont think they were going to ask for directions. Ive worked with a lot of muslims and they are all hardcore islamic. there is no such thing as a moderate muslim, they can parade around with you being your best friend but be aware that they will readily stab u in the back if need be. This is not any propoganda and a story from a leaflet. This is real, so wake the Fcuk up. In my eyes, no muslim can be trusted...!

Unfortunately only going for a few days so will miss it, but thanks for the Gurdwara address, will defo go there.

waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh, any dudes or dudesses from or been to Rome? Im going next week and wondered if there is a Gurdwara there i could visist and any other suggestions of places to visit and things to do. waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh.