Khalsa4ever

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! I hear your call for animal cruelty, but let's take it for what it is -- a senseless form of humor. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! I totally agree SoGGSJ. Half the stuff we do is rituals. I mean, the average "Sikh" wedding takes like a week (receptions and stuff), whereas the only statement for marriage in Sikhi is the 1 hour anand karaj ceremony. That's it. Anything above and beyond that is plain stupid. (and stuff like those yellow dots is waaay dumb) vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Haha, HTF is funny... but how is that related to this topic??? vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! We all know that there is no doubt you will!!! vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Its not our culture... its Hindu religion, which we have adapted to "our culture". If one looks at marriages during the time of Guru Gobind Singh, I doubt we'd see this. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Logic and religion are two seperate methodologies to get to the same answer. Thus they can complement each other if you realize that (and if you don't, they seem like enemies, don't they?) Anyway, back to the original question. From what I know, Guru Nanak was born as a Guru, and as such retained his name in all of his bani. When the guruship was passed on, he physically passed his jot onto the next guru (who was not even close to a guru prior to that). At that point the next guru would have the Jot of Guru Nanak, which is why all Guru's with Bani signed with "Nanak". However, as the dasam granth states, Guru Gobind Singh was specifically called by paramathma to continue the guruship. Thus, he may be considered a guru from birth in his own right. That is why he signed differently than the previous guru. This is my opinion, i seriously have no idea if it is true though! vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Well just repeating the shabad won't do any good. If you say it from the heart, then I have no doubt it will work. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! I have no idea if this is true, but I've heard that maybe they did do lavan around the Adi-granth? Any real answers would be appreciated!!! vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! After everthing that's happened recently, there is no way Bush will will. I mean the economy have dived (largest trade deficit and budgetary deficit EVER), the war on Iraq was a huge failure (WMDs.... hmmm... not there), plus he's coined so many catch-phrases that I'm starting to feel sick B) vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! That's a pretty wicked observation... I never thought of that. As to the first point you mentioned, i'll look it up and get back to you. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! It's because people don't think before they bow (seriously). They look at it think "it is the guru" and thus "i must bow to it". They don't realize that this is ritualistic, and simply wrong. I know in several cases after that incident, I spoke with some people and asked them to explain why they bowed down to these items, and they did realize that this was wrong. We've gotta remember that Guru never bowed to the king of India, because the physical form although of a king was not the same as the jot inside. This is why we bow to the SGGS, not because it is a book, but because it has the jot of Guru Nanak within it. This is why we cannot bow down before someone's clothes... guru's jot is not inside them. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! I'm not sure I believe that, Kandola. The fact is that what we are spiritually (not physical body) is not going to be governed by "physical" descriptions. Does anyone think that a soul can bow before another? That a hot place will make the soul feel pain? That there are a bunch of souls giving you little tests? (and those that will ask you a question, and then you can give your opinion?) The way I see it, these descriptions are just metaphors to help us decide what we should be doing in life, but I think that in reality, God is far far above anything "physical" that can be used as a punishment or reward. I mean angels? If GOD IS EVERYWHERE, where will the angels take you? If you become a true Gurmukh, and join with waheguru, do you really need angels to show you where to go? Just a thought. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! I think parkash of both is OK, but based on the condition that you DO NOT matha-take to it. Guru Gobind SIngh Jee gave us the SGGS as our final guru (and even told others that you are not to worship him or his writings... ie: The dasam granth. I know that people have a hard time differentiating between Guru and not, and they bow before everything in site. For example, this giani came from India here and brought several articles once owned by Guru Gobind Singh Jee (a pagh and a full suit). They set it up in the gurdwara in a little table with ramalas... and EVERYBODY I SAW WHO CAME INSIDE THE GURDWARA HALL WENT STRAIGHT TO IT AND BOWED, IGNORING GURU GRANTH SAHIB!!!! It's stuff like that which causes problems. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Great cause... smokin' ain't good vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! I'm pretty positive that Adam and Eve are metaphors for the human condition. Since science has proven beyond doubt that evolution must have occurred, that just goes to show that Guru Nanak was right!! This is my favorite shabad: vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! While I have my own doubts about ghosts, I think we should remember one thing. When Guru Gobind Singh was called by Waheguru to come to this earth in a human form to create the Khalsa, he was present at Hemkunt Sahib. Since he existed as an "entity" (where he prayed on a wooden stool), ghosts must exist!! vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Being a surgeon may be busy, but a gursikh can always find time to take Guru's hukum. Even though you may be on call all the time (most professions are too). I say, If you think that you can do seva best as a surgeon, then do it, Guru will fill in the rest of the gaps! My 2 cents. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Yeah, I read this article and it is really sad ... I think it shows more on the Californian penal system than it does on racism vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! sorry. Mine is a desktop. (I really want a laptop, but gotta get $$$ first!) vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Sony Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz 512 Ram 60 Gb HD 15" SamSung LCD Monitor vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! It just so disgusting how ignorant these people are... vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Aww, jeez... I just ate and now I'm hungry again. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! ANY email that says that forwarding ANYTHING will results in ANYTHING happening is FALSE. I've used that test, and it seems to be pretty fool-proof. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! If they start that, some might start killing the boys and then we have gotten nowhere. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!