muurakh (forgive me...)

this general area has already been discussed somewhere. getting a tatoo is purposefully, knowingly denaturing your ang and doing beadbi of kesh. getting stitches you're already cut, for medical purposes or in unavoidable circumstances it is bound to happen. ie if someone has an operation the surgeons are required to shave the hair around the area, but you have to go pesh after the operation. dhan sant baba kartar singh ji were in hospital after their car crashed into a tree. surgery was an option the doctors offered to try and save their life, but sant ji opted not to have the operation done because this meant knowingly doing beadbi of kesh; and so they ascended to sach khand. i know the example of such a person is too great for us to follow, or even have this example offered when we are such papi's already, but nevertheless the guru's and sants have practically lived and shown us the way...

well burning, cutting through them, you know what i mean. they can't 'go around' your kesh can they, otherwise it won't look like what you want. so beadbi of kesh and 'denaturing' will happen. that's why we're not allowed to pearce our ears and tongues and stuff.

well basically when you get a tatoo you are doing a kurehit. you will be doing beadbi of your kesh. i think they shave the place where the tatoo's going. even if they don't when the needle goes into your skin the roots of kesh and kesh that are there will be burnt.

''a-men to that''

the start of the last paragraph made me giggle. and i wrote a paragraph but just deleted it, cause i'm not going to comment either. i'll probably stir up an arguement because of my lack of understanding

sorry, missed the bit that said pref. to read in english, all of the above are gurmukhi and punjabi.

stuff like sodhi chamatkaar and kalgidhar chamatkaar. khalsa jeevan - jeevan of sant baba gurbachan singh ji khalsa prabhodh chandhar natak amrit ras 1&2 steeks - gurbani and meanings. gur bilaas sao sakhi and the list goes on and on. those above, as well as others, tell you about gursikh jeevan and there are loads of sakhian.

err hello.....are you all reading the same script. a mona, cuts his hair at the very least, if not other kurehitan as well. sat in the hazoori of maharaj ji and read gurbani and he was portraying the message of amrit shako and rehit rakho and everything else gurbani says. where there is a gurdwara there is AT LEAST one amritdhari singh ie the giani. it's better to have just one amritdhari than have a non amritdhari with him/her. and yes bibian should be amritdhari as well when doing path from guru ji. in this case let's not beat around the bush, i don't care what excuse anyone comes out with, everyone knows that's just plain wrong. i'm sorry if i've offended anyone but sometimes you have to as long as it's in accordance with gurmat.

probablt been posted but..... ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ vāhigurū vāhigurū vāhigurū vāhi jī­o. vaheguroo, vaheguroo, vaheguroo, vahe jio ਕਵਲ ਨੈਨ ਮਧੁਰ ਬੈਨ ਕੋਟਿ ਸੈਨ ਸੰਗ ਸੋਭ ਕਹਤ ਮਾ ਜਸੋਦ ਜਿਸਹਿ ਦਹੀ ਭਾਤੁ ਖਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ Kaval nain maḏẖur bain kot sain sang sobẖ kahaṯ mā jasoḏ jisahi ḏahī bẖāṯ kẖāhi jī­o. You are lotus-eyed, with sweet speech, exalted and embellished with millions of companions. Mother Yashoda invited You as Krishna to eat the sweet rice. ਦੇਖਿ ਰੂਪੁ ਅਤਿ ਅਨੂਪੁ ਮੋਹ ਮਹਾ ਮਗ ਭਈ ਕਿੰਕਨੀ ਸਬਦ ਝਨਤਕਾਰ ਖੇਲੁ ਪਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ Ḏėkẖ rūp aṯ anūp moh mahā mag bẖa­ī kinknī sabaḏ jẖanaṯkār kẖėl pāhi jī­o. Gazing upon Your supremely beautiful form, and hearing the musical sounds of Your silver bells tinkling, she was intoxicated with delight. ਕਾਲ ਕਲਮ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਹਾਥਿ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਉਨੁ ਮੇਟਿ ਸਕੈ ਈਸੁ ਬੰਮ੍ਯ੍ਯੁ ਗ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਨੁ ਧ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਨੁ ਧਰਤ ਹੀਐ ਚਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ Kāl kalam hukam hāth kahhu ka­un mėt sakai īs bamm­yu ga­yān ḏẖėān ḏẖaraṯ hī­ai cẖāhi jī­o. Death's pen and command are in Your hands. Tell me, who can erase it? Shiva and Brahma yearn to enshrine Your spiritual wisdom in their hearts. ਸਤਿ ਸਾਚੁ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ਆਦਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਸਦਾ ਤੁਹੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥੬॥ Saṯ sācẖ sarī nivās āḏ purakẖ saḏā ṯuhī vāhigurū vāhigurū vāhigurū vāhi jī­o. ||1||6|| You are forever True, the Home of Excellence, the Primal Supreme Being. vaheguroo, vaheguroo, vaheguroo, vahe jio ||1||6||

i like the sehaj answer it's what i was thinking and would be my answer, until that last post. in which case i'd say it's sukh. you've stated dukh is sukh, so 'landing' on sukh and 'landing' on dukh, both give sukh. it says dukh is sukh but it doesn't say that sukh is dukh. ie you can state iron is metal but metal is not nessecarily iron. that's what i think anyway (probably wrong after all that lol)

what do you mean the short ones 'everyone' wears today most people i know wear the long ones, especially when you have to do path, and playing gatka

couldn't make it work when i posted so i attached the file vaheguru.... vaheguru....vaheguru :music: :TH: vaheguru.doc

vaheguroo

and if you've never heard them speak go to http://www.gurmatveechar.com/katha.php , folder second from bottom.

err....... can i just clear up that i was just joking because a gupt person wrote that passage mentioned in the 4th post. then peacemaker said it was him who wrote it, which i think it was, and i was just joking. because he initially wrote it as a guest and so it could've been anyone that's why i said no it was me. explaining the joke totally kills the humour, oh well never mind. good luck to big tera.