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hey what is that? i never heard of that..... me neither Bandar di gallan wich aa gaye ... dats one smart Bandar :TH:

Last time I checked, Bihar was still a part of India, and those ppl are just moving within their own country. Unlike us panjabiz, who would do or die to get the hell out of Panjab like there is some kinda plague spreading or something. Its all our fault, when we leave our field alone and houses empty. Every frekking village in Panjab or I should say every family in Panjab has someone "earning meals" either in UK, Canada, US or something. We also need someone to do the stuff back home coz we are just too good for doing our own work... init and to jassa's comment about punjabiz in UK dying for their country, not everyone will, I know even most europeans wouldn't do that and if there are some punjabiz like that its coz they associate themselves to the new country (thats a really good thing) but aren't interested in moving back. Those poor Biharis are still in their country and might head back when they got some money or something. So lay off ppl...i think ya'll know what Sikhi teaches in this respect, what to do and what not...

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I read through and simply put it all in English, hopefully it will help some of you guys to understand the issue that the poster is raising: "waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh Dear sadh sangat, I have been thinking since a few days that I wouldn’t write about these new shabad vatara groups. But whenever I listen to their cassettes, I get disheartened thinking that we have such “Manmukhs” among us who after studying Gurbani, seem to believe that they can justify everything and start preaching their own ways. This is the state of a recently originated group so called “Shabad Vatara”. They have uploaded almost 8Gb data on internet, their kirtan seemed to be pretty good but their cassettes have some offensive material. (The writer is expressing his opinion if they are somehow connected to RSS, he believes that they do good gurbani vichar but might want to alter Sikh history) har cassette wich tusi vekho ge ki kise na kise bramgyani nu ja sikhi naal judia raho reets nu nindya hai. (not sure about this part ) For example: 1) They speak about Baba Budha ji and say that he wasn’t a saint that he met Guru Nanak sahib and isn’t mentioned in Shri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Thus, this is a false story – Ref [ CD No1401] 2) They haven’t uploaded any of Guru Nanak’s sakhi and apparently nowadays, in gurdwaras in India, Guru Nanak ji’s history is being told, and this is foolishness. We are supposed to connect to Akal Purakh and not with Guru Sahib. –Ref [dharam CD 2 and 3] 3) The Sidh Gost Bani is Guru Nanak Sahib’s bani, which isn’t appropriate to be read in Gurudwaras, our Sikhs are being foolish. ---Ref [dharam CD no4] 4) Gur Pratap suraj is false; it’s again foolishness by Sikhs. --- Ref [chigao2 on shabad vartara] 5) The bani of bhai Gurdas ji is shoving Sikhs back to the dark ages, its not a summary of Guru Granth Sahib. Note- I have uploaded this file, please do read over --- Ref [dharam CD No 1] Now you guys can think about it, the one (Bhai Gurdas ji) who help organized Shri Guru Granth Sahib along with Guru Arjun Dev Ji, isn’t an ordinary being, he had abundance of knowledge. ( ain’t too sure how to put these in words) !! vv jihna ne guru di bakhish nu maaniya hove,ki ehna de mutabak hove ga,guru sahib ta je kisi chaldei kidi utte nagar mar dinde si ta us nu vi tin lokan da gyan ho janda si,fer eh manukh kis tara likh reha hai. ----- es to elawa hor pata nahi ki ki bol chukiya hai,mainu haje baki cassetta sraven karniya baki han,par lagda ha ewe waste hi kise di augan fol reha howan ga,per tusi apni jan kari bare jaroor ehna nu sun ke dekhna te faisa karna. Other than above mentioned statements, they have might have other accounts of misrepresentation of Sikhi. (The writer hasn’t gone through all the cassettes but is encouraging everyone to see for themselves, the extent of falsification) Ki main puchhda haan sardar ji sad itihaas ena kamjor hai ki tusi kise bare anap shanap bak deo?mainu ta eh manukh dooja kala afgan lag reha hai. jis ne RSS naal ral ke ,eh sara itihaas nu jado putan di koshish kiti hai. ik hor gal suno ehna bajoorgan di jad main vedio dekhi ta pata lagya ki do char rangi dadi(beard) wale dholki waja rahe han, te kuchh bibiya siroo chuni utari ,bhajan gayan kar rahiyaan han. kuch hor search karn te pata chalya ki enha bajoorgan da naam SDO mohinder singh hai,te america de wich jyada apne program karde han. (Writer is trying to connects the dots and seeing this as an act against Sihki, and making comparision to Gurbachan Singh “Kala Afghana” and RSS) ladgad SDo sahib sade kaum wich ik hi brahm gyani han jo ki saari duniya(sikhi) nu sach te jhooth da vartara kar ke das rahe han. bahut shram aundi hai,ehna bare likhde nu, Rab hi jane rab diyan bataan. Over here, pretty much mocking Mohinder Singh SDo, not sure if I want to translate that.. so I’ll let it pass Visit their website --- http://www.svaudio.org/ Check out the link below as well: http://www.akj.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1...475d0494985f5f5 waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh " p.s - I have tried translating but if I misinterpreted anything, my apologies... Hopefully it helps...

Ok guys, I read through and simply put it all in English, hopefully it will help some of you guys to understand the issue that the poster is raising: "waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh Dear sadh sangat, I have been thinking since a few days that I wouldn’t write about these new shabad vatara groups. But whenever I listen to their cassettes, I get disheartened thinking that we have such “Manmukhs” among us who after studying Gurbani, seem to believe that they can justify everything and start preaching their own ways. This is the state of a recently originated group so called “Shabad Vatara”. They have uploaded almost 8Gb data on internet, their kirtan seemed to be pretty good but their cassettes have some offensive material. (The writer is expressing his opinion if they are somehow connected to RSS, he believes that they do good gurbani vichar but might want to alter Sikh history) har cassette wich tusi vekho ge ki kise na kise bramgyani nu ja sikhi naal judia raho reets nu nindya hai. (not sure about this part ) For example: 1) They speak about Baba Budha ji and say that he wasn’t a saint, he met Guru Nanak sahib and isn’t mentioned in Shri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Thus, this is a false story – Ref [ CD No1401] 2) They haven’t uploaded any of Guru Nanak’s sakhi and apparently nowadays, in gurdwaras in India, Guru Nanak ji’s history is being told, and this is foolishness. We are supposed to connect to Akal Purakh and not with Guru Sahib. –Ref [dharam CD 2 and 3] 3) The Sidh Gost Bani is Guru Nanak Sahib’s bani, which isn’t appropriate to be read in Gurudwaras, our Sikhs are being foolish. ---Ref [dharam CD no4] 4) Gur Pratap suraj is false; it’s again foolishness by Sikhs. --- Ref [chigao2 on shabad vartara] 5) The bani of bhai Gurdas ji is shoving Sikhs back to the dark ages, its not a summary of Guru Granth Sahib. Note- I have uploaded this file, please do read over --- Ref [dharam CD No 1] Now you guys can think about it, the one (Bhai Gurdas ji) who help organized Shri Guru Granth Sahib along with Guru Arjun Dev Ji, isn’t an ordinary being, he had abundance of knowledge. ( ain’t too sure how to put these in words) !! vv jihna ne guru di bakhish nu maaniya hove,ki ehna de mutabak hove ga,guru sahib ta je kisi chaldei kidi utte nagar mar dinde si ta us nu vi tin lokan da gyan ho janda si,fer eh manukh kis tara likh reha hai. ----- es to elawa hor pata nahi ki ki bol chukiya hai,mainu haje baki cassetta sraven karniya baki han,par lagda ha ewe waste hi kise di augan fol reha howan ga,per tusi apni jan kari bare jaroor ehna nu sun ke dekhna te faisa karna. Other than above mentioned statements, they have might have other accounts of misrepresentation of Sikhi. (The writer hasn’t gone through all the cassettes but is encouraging everyone to see for themselves, the extent of falsification) Ki main puchhda haan sardar ji sad itihaas ena kamjor hai ki tusi kise bare anap shanap bak deo?mainu ta eh manukh dooja kala afgan lag reha hai. jis ne RSS naal ral ke ,eh sara itihaas nu jado putan di koshish kiti hai. ik hor gal suno ehna bajoorgan di jad main vedio dekhi ta pata lagya ki do char rangi dadi(beard) wale dholki waja rahe han, te kuchh bibiya siroo chuni utari ,bhajan gayan kar rahiyaan han. kuch hor search karn te pata chalya ki enha bajoorgan da naam SDO mohinder singh hai,te america de wich jyada apne program karde han. (Writer is trying to connects the dots and seeing this as an act against Sihki, and making comparision to Gurbachan Singh “Kala Afghana” and RSS) ladgad SDo sahib sade kaum wich ik hi brahm gyani han jo ki saari duniya(sikhi) nu sach te jhooth da vartara kar ke das rahe han. bahut shram aundi hai,ehna bare likhde nu, Rab hi jane rab diyan bataan. Over here, pretty much mocking Mohinder Singh SDo, not sure if I want to translate that.. so I’ll let it pass Visit their website --- http://www.svaudio.org/ Check out the link below as well: http://www.akj.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1...475d0494985f5f5 waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh " p.s - I have tried translating but if I misinterpreted anything, my apologies... Hopefully it helps...

Maybe you haven't read my posts, I respect the guy and don't think I was insulting him or something, just expressing my opinion. And don't remember saying anything about him being mona or anything...Maybe the definition of Anakh for you and me have significant differences...

mann oh mann... I don't even know what to say in here, I mean he is your dad rt. Money isn't everything, he spent what like 20-30 years to raise you, sacrificing his own needs for you. If you were parci or something like that and he kept track of every penny he spent on you, it would take you ages to pay that man back. Seems like you don't trust him, its not like he is gonna take everything with him so rest assured you will get your USD$$$ I see you are living in US but that doesn't mean that you should be like everyone else around you and just abandon and forget the meaning relationship in our culture.

Don't take me wrong in here, I am not judging him or anything. Afterall, like I said before, he did something to avenge that horrible 1919 jalianwalla bagh massacre but I guess, all I am trying to say is if that was his intension - to make him pay for the insult and humiliation of the nation and take revenge for the deaths of hundreds of our bros n sis, then it could've been done in time so that General Dyer would've been the target...

^^ I hope you talking about Punjab governor that Michael O'Dwyer but was he the actual guy who gave the orders to open fire?? The way I see it, Udham Singh had a chance of killing someone and he picked former governor of Punjab. I would have had much more respect for the man if he had taken care of that General Dyer. Now don't put me down saying that dyer probably recieved orders from the Governor, if this is the way you wanna take... then I guess you can reach back to the queen. I mean heads up to the guy, since everyone else kinda just let the whole issue just slide away... and he did something... Jalianwalla massacre happened in 1919 and it took him 21 years to take someone down, and that someone wasn't exactly the person who gave the final go... so bro, I am not saying Udham singh did a bad thing but if thats what he intended to do, instead of going to Africe or trying his luck in US he could have caught Dyer before his death and gave him Hell.... So I am not sure about that Maahaaan seva you mentioned...

^^^ Not dissing Udham singh or anything.... but what mahaan seva are you talking about there?? :umm:

^^^ naaw... he was talking about u....

Veerji, I think the problem lies with these stupid cell phone companies, now when you get a subscription with a locked down handset bundled, companies like rogers lock the customized ringtone features,and if you bought the phone within six months then its quite possible that this feature is disabled for your phone. So I believe the common way which manpreet told u above to set mp3 ring tones might just not work.... But there are some things you might want to try: You can use website like funformobile.com to get the ringtones but you might have to pay or if you want some particular shabad then you can upload ur files on the site and then text it to your phone and connect to the internet to download it. You will definitely get ringtones if you pay for them, you can contact rogers if that the way you want to go for... But you might also just get away by trying to connect your phone to pc and go to folder options, they are keeping the folders as hidden so just make them all visible and you'll see the folder for ringtones and just drag the songs in the folder and then go to profile in phone settings and set it as ringtone.... Hope that helps !!!

There are SIkhs in other international teams as well, like Talvinder Sandher from Canada, and thrz one in Irish team as well... but what made Monty stand out was his Sikh appearence....n helped boost him up... But yea definitely it really good to have em all out thr.... :TH:

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਸਿਰਜਨਾ ਦਿਵਸ ਦੀਆਂ ਬਹੁਤ ਬਹੁਤ ਮੁਬਾਰਕਾਂ

its the SD college bhangra team from hoshiarpur... :umm:

^^^ crying like a sissy ain't gonna make jamdoot go away .... naam japo jio :umm:

^^^ ain't bery explicit in his posts...

^^^ I believe its 14 in India rt now....

#1 Yeup... Sabna nu Khalse de Janam dehare Di wadhaiyaaaan.... :umm:

^^^^ :awesome imma download it as soon as I get home...thankuuuuu :umm: :cool: " ahhmmm...desi bandri... vileti cheekan maaaaaareee oyee"

:umm: koi naa..sapne dekhna changi gal hai... .

^^^ Shadi-doot messing with Jamdoot... take a random guess whoz gonna win... :umm:

^^^ hai oyee.. meri pagg... :umm:

^^^ yup i second that...

^^^ listen to him.. hez telling from exp... :umm: