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  1. Where can i get a wedding bana/chola with Kadaeh (Embroidery) around the edges/cuffs.? Based in the UK but dont mind traveling to Punjab but need to know where to get from? is there any links or images or anything someone can direct me too. thank you in advance.
  2. Any ideas when the modern version of the Anand Karaj became the norm or where it started from? From my understanding, puratan Sikh weddings consisted of doing Laavan around a Havan. In fact, my great grandmother actually got married according to this custom.
  3. Gurmat views? And process for disciplining inappropriate behaviour in Gurdwara sahibs? FullSizeRender.mov
  4. https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story_new/sports-news-indian-hockey-captain-manpreet-singh-weds-malaysian-partner-with-pakistani-roots/367483 Illi Najwa Saddique, a business lawyer in Malaysia, has chosen to take the name Navpreet Kaur during her Anand Karaj with award winning India hockey captain Manpreet Singh and she has moved from Malaysia to Jalandhar to reside with her in-laws in a joint family.
  5. An interfaith marriage between a Sikh and Muslim at a Gurdwara in Maidenhead. https://evt.live/ramcolour/amardeep-reemsha
  6. An interfaith marriage between a Sikh and Muslim at a Gurdwara in Maidenhead. https://evt.live/ramcolour/amardeep-reemsha
  7. Interesting article I'v heard this before. “Only GurSikhs Had Anand Karaj Before the 1900” Says Elderly Grandmother Posted byDaily Sikh Updates October 11, 2016 “Only GurSikhs Had Anand Karaj Before the 1900” Says Elderly Grandmother Anand Karaj in the 1900s by Anonymous on Sikhnet Recently the Sikh marriage ceremony (Anand Karaj) has come under dispute when concerning couples professing different faiths, which has led to some controversy and conflict. Without going into too much detail of the recent events in the UK, where members of the Sikh community prevented an interfaith marriage from taking place in a Gurdwara, the Akal Takht, the spiritual abode of authority for Sikhs, has made it very transparent in the Sikh Rehat Maryada (Sikh Code of Conduct) that the Anand Karaj ceremony is only permitted for those professing the Sikh faith. And quite rightly so! If one does not wish to accept or practice the Sikh faith, then why would one want a Sikh marriage ceremony? What is intended to be a blissful union of two souls merely becomes a meaningless and ritualistic ceremony. For many years after the reign of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, the Sikh marriage rites became disoriented with conflicting practices, to the extent where a number of Sikhs were partaking in Hindu Vedic ceremonies to solemnise their marriage. In order to safeguard the sanctity of the Anand Karaj, a Sikh marriage act was officially passed in 1909, which established a legal binding of two people professing the Sikh faith. AnandKaraj This led me to go back to something my maternal grandmother mentioned regarding how Sikh marriages were performed in the early 1900s. It was a common practice for all marriages to be arranged and for girls, as young as seven years old to be engaged (my grandmother was nine years old!). Despite being engaged at such a young age, the girls would legally get married at 15 or 16 and for couples to meet for the very first time on their actual wedding day. My grandparents had a very simple, traditional Sikh wedding ceremony, which took place around the late 1920s-early 1930s (the exact year was never documented). My grandmother very interestingly pointed out, in order for the Anand Karaj to take place, the man had to take Amrit before the ceremony to profess his commitment to the Sikh faith and making a promise that he will maintain Sikh practices within his household. It was not necessary for women to take Amrit before marriage, which was something I could not quite completely understand nor could my grandmother explain why. Upon my grandfather taking Amrit, my grandparent’s marriage was sanctified by the Anand Karaj ceremony. The wedding ceremony took place in the ambrosial hours of the morning at around 4-5am, which was a practice that was maintained and continued from the times of the Sikh Gurus. Sadly this practice has now been lost. This prompted me to question my grandmother further; what if my grandfather did not choose to take Amrit or what if my grandfather had shorn hair but was born in a Sikh household, would they still be allowed to have an Anand Karaj ceremony? My grandmother made a very bold statement that no Sikh during the British Raj cut their hair; the Sikh identity was strongly intact. The cutting of the Kes became more apparent when Sikhs began to emigrate to the West in the 1950s and 60s, where they faced a backlash of discrimination and hostility towards them. For those who did not take Amrit before their marriage or where a Sikh daughter’s hand was given away in marriage into a Hindu household, the Anand Karaj ceremony was not permitted. As an alternative, the couple were offered an opportunity to sanctify their married life and seek the blessings from the Guru in the Gurdwara, where a Sukhmani Sahib or some other form of prayer and an Ardas were performed. Based upon my grandmother’s insight into Sikh marriages in the early 1900s, it is clearly evident that the Anand Karaj ceremony was led and performed for those professing the Sikh faith. Although there was a significant requirement for the male spouse to take Amrit before the marriage, this is not the case now as many Sikh marriages take place with or without either couple being Amritdhari. Inevitably, interfaith marriages will take place. Civil Service ceremonies are held inside many Sikh Gurdwaras around the world in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. If a couple wishes to have a marriage ceremony conducted inside a Gurdwara and seek the blessings from the Guru, then we should be able to offer them an alternative ceremony through a prayer and an Ardas. In spite of the times changing, Sikhs have and should continually maintain the sanctity of the Anand Karaj ceremony between two Sikhs, however to also offer an alternative solution for interfaith marriages.
  8. Can an amritdhari girl wed a non amritdhari guy in anand karaj? The guys kesdhari, just hasnt decided to take amrit yet, wants to progress with rehat before committing to amrit. Both the girl and guy and their families are happy with it. Any potential issues?
  9. People do you have any good ideas for how to limit the spread of Sikhi? In particular, how do we eradicate this cancer of people choosing to get married by Anand Karaj? Ok my initial idea is that we limit Anand Karaj to the 5% of Sikhs who are Amritdhari's like Sukhbir Badal and Amere Muhammad Dhaliwal Admin Note: Same ip beloging to these members - SinghSabha1699, DhadrianwaleZindabad, SukhaSinghMehtab2015, GareebSikh1699, isingh1699, SheikhYoBooty
  10. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/m.tribuneindia.com/article/row-over-anand-karaj-at-ranveer-deepika-wedding/684882/amp What is your view on this ? Should Anand Karaj have taken place in Villa
  11. http://singhstation.net/2018/03/pakistan-punjab-assembly-makes-history-passing-sikh-marriage-act/ LAHORE: The Pakistan Punjab Assembly on Wednesday adopted a landmark bill to regulate marriages of the minority Sikh community living in the province. The bill called “The Punjab Anand Karaj Act 2017” was tabled by MPA Ramesh Singh Arora. Pakistan has become the first country in the world to introduce legislation for the registration of Sikh marriages.
  12. So Jagmeet does the deed... and no voti still the same ... https://www.facebook.com/BaruSahibHP/photos/ms.c.eJxFyLENACAMA7CPUNrQhvz~;GAMIPDoEzZRVboFrxI0~_4R~;ZpNAvygQobtQgDbg~-.bps.a.312356885474161.72764.294820193894497/1707427962633706/?type=3&theater
  13. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Hi guys I was hoping you guys could help with some info and advice. It all started 3 years ago when was going through some tough times when I was introduced to meditation by my best friend now my fiancé. As meditating was helping me I grew curious about Sikhi and its teachings. She taught me as much as she could and I found my own path in Sikhi. I attend the Gurdwara regularly try to keep the 5 Ks minus the Kerpan as I have not taken Amrit as yet as I know there is still a lot for me to learn. I Also follow the teachings of the Guru Gran Sahib Ji. As we were really good friends it was different when we fell in love with each other. Call it old fashioned or not the correct way with the Asian culture but it happened. When she told her dad he refused to talk to her or myself and still does up to this day! As far as I am aware the teachings of Guru Nanak cleary talks about equality and diversity. I won't go into detail as you know the rest. However her dad is not just any Sikh is a freedom fight Sikh so he should know better. How do we address this as she misses her father very much and we really want him at the Anand Karaj. Also another issue the Gurdwara I've asked to do the ceremony has not refused but told us all the committee members have to be in agreement with it before we can get married. I asked them in July and it is now October and the still can't give me an answer apart from I need to attend their Gurdwara more regularly especially on Sundays which I have. I feel like I have an uphill battle with everything because if you were born a Sikh never really attend Gurdwara decide to get married as that person will have Singh or Kaur in their name it won't be a problem. I also will have Singh in my name. How do I approach her or how do we approach the situation? Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh!
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    Gursikh Anand karaj tips

    Fateh ji, Can any Gursikh couple share their wedding video or give me tips on how it should be done? Ie. To have mayian or not, mehndi or not, reception or not? I am unclear of the maryada surrounding that. The Sikh Rehit Maryada helps but I would like to see the full wedding in action. The YouTube videos just an overview. Thanks
  16. In one of the 52 commandments Guru Gobind Singh Ji left for the Sikhs he stated that a daughter of the Sikhs should only have her hand in marriage given to another Sikh family. But he did not say the same for Sikh sons for them only given to Sikhs for marriage. Why was this? This question is mainly for the liberal lefties to ponder on. Because to majority of learned and right thinking Sikhs he is clearly showing us how there is a difference between the genders when it comes to procreation and relationships. Sikh Men are like rocks in the ground they will usually stick to their reiligion. And Guru Ji knows the condition of men of all backgrounds are that they are tribal so its a given that sons will not let the Sikh side down. But most women are like sheep they will be lead to whatever religion their partner is a believer in. So if they are married off to non-sikhs then she will become that non-sikh and her offsping 9/10 times will be non-sikhs. For a pularistic faith like Sikhi it is especially dangerous for our demographics sake that Sikh women are raised in the belief that they only want to marry a fellow Sikh believer. We can see countless examples of non-abrahmic faith communities whose populations have been destroyed because they did not control their womens choice of partner. We can look at the kalaesh of northern pakistan who are almost extinct due to muslims converting their women and creating more muslims. We can see zoroesterian persians who had a huge mighty empire that used to invade other lands but now are no where to be found only small communities scattered around the world because muslims forced islam on them and bred with their women creating muslims only. Which is why we know muslims try their best to groom and convert kafir non-muslim women especially those who they view they are in war in to get 1 over the kufr. And if you ever seen a marriage between a girl from Sikh background to a non-sikh groom you will find most of the time the kids are born as non-sikhs. So there is no equality in nature & biology nor in Sikhi nor in most human soceities that want to exist and excel when it comes to relationships there are clear set out rules.
  17. Why does no one raise this issue? Are parents really happy that their kids do this? Why dont they stop them? What happened to arrange marriages?
  18. white privilage anti-sikh news content copywriters and editors working at sky news rear their ugly racist again by reporting about the icident at lemington gurdwara as an 30 armed sword weidling gang stroming their own gurdwara to prevent a MIXED-RACE marriage. These racist white right wing main stream media anti-sikh morons deliberate write in their news articles about mixed-race when the fact of the matter is the protestors are against MIXED-FAITH marriage which is not allowed in the Sikh religion. Mix-race is absolutely fine aslong both partners are Sikhs. http://news.sky.com/story/sword-wielding-gang-storm-sikh-temple-in-leamington-spa-10574252
  19. Gur Fateh Ji, Could some high avasthi gursikh please explain the reason Sikh Rehat Maryada requires the Singh and Singhni to stand during the reciting of lava by the Granthi Singh Ji? Perhaps more importantly, why is this not strictly enforced by Gurdwara Sahibs in Punjab? Punjabi Sikhs tend to blame Western Sikhs for issues such as the marriage of Sikhs with non-Sikhs but when I brought this issue forward with a Gursikh in Punjab he said it was not required to stand during the recitation of lava and claimed that I was looking at either an altered copy of the Rehat Maryada or it has been "mistranslated" into English. Note that section IV, Article XVIII clearly states the following: After the conclusion of the recitation of each of the stanzas, the boy, followed by the girl holding the end of the sash, should go round the Guru Granth Sahib while the ragis or the congregation sing out the recited stanza. The boy and girl, after every circumambulation, should bow before the Guru Granth Sahib in genuflexion, lowering their forehead to touch the ground and then stand up to listen to the recitation of the next stanza. (Source: http://sgpc.net/sikh-rehat-maryada-in-english/) Gur Fateh Ji.
  20. http://www.sikhnet.com/news/mixed-marriages-our-gurduaras When reading this article written by I.J. Singh and Guruka Singh, i was not sure if it was about who can enter the Gurdwara and what the Catholics have done around marriage issues in the past or mixed marriages being allowed in the Gurdwara. The title of the article is “Mix Marraiges in our Gurdwaras”, but only a very small portion of the article gives a patronizing view of those who view mixed marriages in Gurdwaras as wrong. Instead they are shaming and pointing the finger to allow others into the Gurdwara. I believe they should have decided on titling this article, “Two Senior Citizens Rambling”. When they finally start to talk about the issue the reasons for barring mixed marriages at the Gurdwara are being mocked by the two writers; I.J. Singh and Guruka Singh. The actual reasons why the Guru, Sri Akal Takht Sahib, Sikhs, and Sikh groups are barring mixed marriages in the Gurdwara are not even mentioned in the article. However let’s address the rambling they committed to in the article about allowing others into the Gurdwara. They mention Sri Harmandir Sahib has four doors, which signifies all people regardless of background are allowed into the Gurdwara. I fully agree with these two here. Yet they forget to mention, maybe unintentionally, regardless which door you come into the Gurdwara, you will only hear the teachings of one Guru; Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Whether you enter from the south or east or west or north all four doors lead to the one teacher. This one teacher is giving all people who enter the same teaching regardless of which faith they profess to be part of or what views they hold as agnostics or atheist. The teachings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji don’t change from any direction, time or person. They continue to ramble and bring up the point, Sikhs can’t define who is a Sikh, but the Guru does. True enough and we have history dictating how a person was defined as a Sikh and Gurbani very clearly describes who is a Sikh. Sri Akal Takht Sahib has also done a great job of taking the teachings from Gurbani and defining who is a Sikh. Yet according to these two, we should ignore all this and on the basis of Sri Harmandir Sahib having four doors, allow anyone to have an anand Karaj!!! They also go to the extent of saying we, Sikhs, don’t know who is a Sikh and they give an example of a Sikh woman marrying an agnostic. I don’t know if old age as taken the toll on both of them, but yeah we do know who is a Sikh. Their example says the man marrying the Sikh woman was an agnostic, which means he was not a Sikh and an agnostic. The simple question of whether the couple are both Sikh is asked before an Anand Karaj is done? What a simple solution to finding out who is a Sikh and defining if it is a mixed marriage. And if one of the two is not a Sikh, then they can’t have an Anand Karaj. Now let’s get down to the patronizing reasons they gave for not allowing mixed marriages in the Gurdwara. Reason #1: Perhaps they come from a fear of dilution of the faith Sorry but reason 1 doesn’t apply to Sikhi for barring mixed marriages in the Gurdwara. Reason #2: or possibly to create an insular barrier to “outsiders Nope, again wrong religion. This is Sikhi not Catholic or Islam. Reason #3: Or perhaps they are rooted in an attempt to ensure a successful marriage? Nope, doesn’t apply to Sikhi and Sikhs, who are barring mixed marriages from taking place at the Gurdwara. I.J. Singh in the past was known to using his secular credentials as a doctor in Chemistry (I believe it was Chemistry) as his credential to be a doctor of Sikhi. Every article he wrote his views on Sikhi were started off by Dr. I.J. Singh. If you don’t believe me, do a simple search online and this deception will come aware to you. I mention this here because, I see Dr. I.J. Singh has made some progress in not writing Dr. in front of his name today, when he writes his views on Sikhi. So I applaud him for not deceiving others with the title of Dr. I.J. Singh anymore. Although it took some time to get him to change from his deception. It is a step forward in the right direction. Coming to the Gurdwara is no sign of any person accepting Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji as their Guru. Sikh history tells us even spy’s have come to the open Gurdwara of the Gurus and still do to this date. So this level of participation at the Gurdwara can’t be assigned as to allow the Anand Karaj for the person. The level of commitment for Anand Karaj is higher than simply coming to the Gurdwara. Gurbani read in the Anand Karaj defines the level of commitment and guides the couple on how to behave after they are married. The first level of commitment is to accept Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji as your Guru. Which also implies a person cannot accept anyone else as their Guru or religious/spiritual guide in life. For instance a person who claims to be Christian or agnostic has chosen not to accept Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji as their religious/spiritual guide. The Christian has accepted Jesus (the Bible) and the latter has accepted no one. In both cases they have not accepted the level of commitment to be Sikhs. Therefore, both are disqualified from having an Anand Karaj. If I.J. Singh and Guruka Singh were more honest in their article there could have been progress in this debate and more people would be able to see what it means to be a Sikh. Many could have benefited from this discussion and their article, if they were honest and didn’t ramble about other unrelated topics. I guess positive change comes hard for I.J. Singh and Guruka Singh. Let’s hope in the future they are honest with their approach.
  21. If the gurdwaras in the UK can get together to adopt a resolution about anand karaj and stop the beadbi of the anand karaj why are Canadian and USA Gurdwara committees lagging behind. We need to get our Gurdwara committees to take a stand and follow the Hukamnama of Akal Thakat. Please see video below. https://www.facebook.com/1548308148780353/videos/1639645269646640/
  22. Please, please, please watch this entire video. Not because you don't know the who, what and why of the Anand Karaj, but because of the way Bhai Jagraj Singh addresses the issue in a very diplomatic and eloquent manner. Take note because chances are the punjabis who are spewing hatred on the internet won't watch this, but you can watch it and become a beacon of information instead which can be much more effective. I feel like this video in its entirety should be the standard for how to address this issue. If I'm not mistaken, not a single point was left out in this educational video. If Sikh community in UK can get on the same page, then the hippy fake liberals who will be apologists for muslims/islam will just be letting out hot air with nothing of substance.
  23. When Ram Rai, the eldest son of Mata Krishen Kaur and Guru Har Rai Ji, changed a word of a Gurbani tukh to appease (the usurper of the Mughal Raj) Arungzeb, Guru Har Rai Ji excommunicated him from Sikhi. Baba Ram Rai was Guru Sahib’s own son yet he had disrespected Gurbani which is considered the highest form of direspect in the Sikh Faith. Baani Guru, Guru Hai Baani. BUT we forget one important thing, Baba Ram Rai was punished so severely because he KNOWINGLY did the wrong thing. Being Guru Sahib’s son he was well aware of the crime he was committing and therefore it was a choice. Sadly majority of our community today is ignorant of our faith and it’s history. So how then can we hold individuals responsible when they disrespect Gurbani and thereby the True Guru unknowingly? Our response must be different because the Guru is just and never angry toward those who commit a mistake unknowingly. It is counterproductive to curse the bride and say “she deserves to rot in hell” or that “she is a stupid <banned word filter activated> who should die”. This only perpetuates ignorance and division within our community. We must as a community take responsibility and educate ourselves and others to make sure incidents like this never occur again. As for incidents regarding to Anand Karaj, Anand Karaj is a very big commitment that we have dumbed down to “the Punjabi Marriage Ceremony” and by doing so we have turned it into a ritual, something often the bride and groom do without true knowledge. The Anand Karaj is a commitment ceremony that binds the souls of the couple, you are not only committing to each other but making the HUGE commitment of accepting Guru Sahib as your Guru, to follow “his” teachings and keep “him” in the center of your new married life. Each part of the Lavaan gives you a different teaching which you hear out while you revolve around the Guru like the earth revolves around the sun and you commit to that teaching, saying you fully agree with it and will embody it the moment you bow your head before the Guru and Matha Tek. The “pheray” or parkarma around Guru Granth Sahib was not always part of the ceremony, it was added and is merely mirroring your commitment. The palla shows the connecting of two souls, you walk around Guru Sahib to show “he” is the center of your life. The reason walking side by side doesn’t work is because you both will not be equidistance from Guru Sahib, one person will be further. The woman walking behind the man is not inequality because it simply mirrors a Gurbani tukh. Also in the greater context of Anand Karaj one can see inequality is not an issue. As I stated before, we are viewing our religion through a western perspective without the knowledge and historical context of our religion. Furthermore, another way to look at in a western perspective is “Behind every man is a strong woman…and boom now it’s liberating. I would like to state once again that ignorance is the root of all the confusion and division in our community. If it pains you to see Guru Granth Sahib disrespected then take it upon yourself to educate others of Gurbani and Sikh History. Do your research so you can know about the faith and institution you claim to be a part of. I would like to end this by saying once again, disrespect to Gurbani and thereby the true Guru is the highest crime. I will leave you with one other example of how much respect our Gurus had for Gurbani. They were always stating that they are nothing, Gurbani, the word of Waheguru is everything, worship and follow Gurbani not their physical forms. Baani Guru, Guru Hai Baani. When Guru Arjun Dev Ji, the 5th Guru was bringing Aad Granth (half of Guru Granth Sahib organized into a saroop) to Amritsar, Baba Buddha ji carried Aad Granth on his head while Guru Arjun Dev Ji did chaur seva (waving of peacock feathers). This shocked the sangat that was walking alongside Guru Sahib because chaur seva was something that was only done to the Guru or to Kings and yet here was the Guru doing chaur seva to what appeared to be a book! Then when they ended the daily events at Amritsar, the Sikhs asked Guru Arjun Dev Ji where they should put Aad Granth for the night. Guru Sahib responded, Aad Granth will rest on my bed, I will sleep on the floor beside it. OUR GURUS SHOWED TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT GURBANI IS THE HIGHEST. Today we have largely forgotten this and disregard Guru Granth Sahib, we neglect our Guru by remaining ignorant of “his” teachings. Source: http://singhstation.net/2014/12/anand-karaj-in-the-context-of-guru-and-western-culture/
  24. http://www.kaurlife.org/tag/baljit-bally-kaur-lehal/ Couple challenge anand karaj maryada. Take lavan side by side. Question equality in sikhi. W T F?
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