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intresting vee rje

but the banee thuks they used have nothing to do witht he topic

they used some banee thusk meaning we are affected by all sorts of disaesas when sperated frm vahegur je

ok

tru

wats that gott to do with narak

u posted some banee thuks that proves the fact guru je said narak is after as well

the banee thuks u posted specifically referred to this, saying AFTER we will suffer

ure post with banee thuks shud be self explainatoryy

if anyone still has doubts they can read undithee duniya by bhai sahib

pretty much every sant has said yes there is a narak

after life

but a gurmukh is above both heaven and narak

the are in sach khand, one with akaal

bhula chuka maf

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this is one thing where i see sikhi taking a buddhist attitude towards narak

there is a hell

even banee says at time of death, papee will be gagged and taken tot he city of death

many othe rthuks sayin that we will be takin to narak daas has read

so there is a narak

one may also call being awa from vaheguru narak

sure, thas tru

but there is a place for punishment, aside from charaousi

a gurmukh is higher than both narak and swaarg

he does not take avtaar in either of these places

they are in sach khand being one with akaal

bhula chuka maf

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Gurbani says allot of things, some of which are not to be taken literally, but then again, we shall see when we get there.

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but thas y guru je gave SANTHIA

if we cudnt understnad banee, therw wud be no point in guru je giving it to us

thas y guru je started places to give santhia

and tha is a buddhist attitutde again

we shal see when we get there

but y shud we wait to kn

when guru je has left us the answers

and when gurmukhs such as bhai sahib randheer singh je

and pretty much all sants and gurmukhs say that there is a narak?

and when banee itself sayss it, y do we doubt it?

bhula chuka maf

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but thas y guru je gave SANTHIA

if we cudnt understnad banee, therw wud be no point in guru je giving it to us

thas y guru je started places to give santhia

and tha is a buddhist attitutde again

we shal see when we get there

but y shud we wait to kn

when guru je has left us the answers

and when gurmukhs such as bhai sahib randheer singh je

and pretty much all sants and gurmukhs say that there is a narak?

and when banee itself sayss it, y do we doubt it?

bhula chuka maf

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Veer, First it is not a buddhist attitude, We should wait to know, because simply knowing it from reading does not mean you have KNOWN it. Simply believing in the word of another does not mean YOU have KNOWN it. If it is true then it is true for THEM, not you. Just becuase you have read about the afterlife, does not mean you have experienced it. You are believing what you read, rather than experiencing it.

It is a common err by the reader that once he/she begins to read, he/she begins to belive that they have found it. Reading and Experiencing are on 2 different level. The same err is made about God. You have read about him, but have you found him? Is reading about him enough when you know the words you read cannot express him to the fullest? So is reading about hell greater than knowing thru divine experience/knowledge that it exists? You convince your mind by reading, but now you must experience what you have read. That is why i said we will know when we get there and it has nothing to do with having a buddhist attitude.

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and veer je

im only tellin u about buddhism from wat ive learned fromwat ive read and wat ive listend to them say

one buddhist rep at a erelgion conf was asked wat happenes after death

he laughed and say les wait and see

ull find out when u get there

and i kno tha buddhist dont belive in ahell afterlife either

they belive hell is only here

and well if i cant beliv eGURBANI

then i cant blive anything

and one cant doubt th power of gurbanee

when reading it

and the power in naam

at least daas cnnot

the power is immense

and so yes, u can see right no

RIGHT NOW

y do we need to wait

and if banee says it, then it is truth

bhula chuka maf

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I am from India Aswell From New Delhi, i just want to say to all them who sayz india is hell that then never came to India. Thanku

& when ever ur parents Tell u to go to Historicals Gurdwaras then Reply to them that we dont wont to go to Hell Gurdwaras.

You are staying in those places I mean britishers & muslims who has cut many sikhs head, your grand grand parents give their lifes for Freedom Eg Bhagat singh etc he dont even think @ that time in future that we will go there & work for them

Shame on you saying India hell What u have done to be Proud

U r all the people are <admin-profanity filter activated> Who wants to make khalistan. Right ?

Tell me where u ill make Khalistan near to america or ith canada?

Tell me

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