Need Help

[gurvinderpal]

ok so where do i begin...

about two weeks ago in Sangaat, The Gyani JI's wife told me about, one of my friends who decided to cut his kesh, and she told me to talk to him about it, and try to prevent him...

Now well i just got back from talkin' to him, and i really don't know what i can do to convince him to keep his kesh. it seems as if his parent's didn't really instill alot of sikhi in to him,and i tried explaining to him why its important to keep our kesh... his logic is rahter odd, but i guess he uses that logic to justify his need to cut and shave off his kesh. one reason he told me was that "No other religion requires their followers to keep long hair and pray" then second logic to him was that " He views sikhism and hinduism as the same thing, in which the goal is to become a better human being...." Then when i asked him about islam being the same "Hes liek umm nah.."

this poor singh, well he was raised in India, thus i guess he was brain washed... i dunno its really odd i'd say alot of "sikhs" or former sikhs or family members of mine, from india, have this really odd view of sikhi... its like Sikhi but really watered down with Hinduism...

so my question is how can i convince my friend to keep his kesh.. he tells me that he is "Spiritual but not religious...." what ever the heck that means.... but he doesn't do naam simran.. so i guess he woulnd't be able to reep the full benefit of Kesh...

But now i'm at the point thinking , if he doesn't wanna keep it, not need to tell him... sikhi is about quality not quanity...

any thoughts?

[Guest lowest of the low singhni]

the goal of sikhism isn't just to become a better human being, it's to merge with God.

he seems to be under the impression that spirituality is enough for a sikh, which isn't true - Guru Gobind Singh Ji said that a sikh must have Rehit, which invloves living your life according to the ways he taught us - keeping our kes/kakkara/amritvela rehit/kirat karni etc ..

at the same time there has to be "religion" as he calls it - which includes Naam japna/nitnem/Gurbani vichaar. try to get him started off on some of these points, because it might help him to understand the whole SIKHI-IS-NOT-HINDUISM-idea.

maybe you could make a list of all the great points sikhi has. if he thinks hinduism and sikhism are the same thing, you could tell him about all the differences between them e.g. idol worship/more than one god/caste system.

i don't really know, i just thought that this was important so i typed this post. at the end of the day you can only try your best to convince him. if he truly doesn't want to listen then that's his problem, and you shouldn't waste your time trying.

do Ardas for him, try to talk to him and explain to him the difference between hinduism/sikhi, encourage him to read gurbani. if he does cut his hair and continues on the path of sikhi, he'll end up keeping it at some point.

duno if i helped.

~l~

[singh_comradz]

ok so where do i begin...

about two weeks ago in Sangaat, The Gyani JI's wife told me about, one of my friends who decided to cut his kesh, and she told me to talk to him about it, and try to prevent him...

Now well i just got back from talkin' to him, and i really don't know what i can do to convince him to keep his kesh. it seems as if his parent's didn't really instill alot of sikhi in to him,and i tried explaining to him why its important to keep our kesh... his logic is rahter odd, but i guess he uses that logic to justify his need to cut and shave off his kesh.  one reason he told me was that "No other religion requires their followers to keep long hair and pray" then second logic to him was that " He views sikhism and hinduism as the same thing, in which the goal is to become a better human being...." Then when i asked him about islam being the same "Hes liek umm nah.."

this poor singh, well he was raised in India, thus i guess he was brain washed... i dunno its really odd i'd say alot of "sikhs" or former sikhs or family members of mine, from india, have this really odd view of sikhi... its like Sikhi but really watered down with Hinduism...

so my question is how can i convince my friend to keep his kesh.. he tells me that he is "Spiritual but not religious...." what ever the heck that means.... but he doesn't do naam simran.. so i guess he woulnd't be able to reep the full benefit of Kesh...

But now i'm at the point thinking , if he doesn't wanna keep it, not need to tell him... sikhi is about quality not quanity...

any thoughts?

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sounds like he's making excuses

[gurvinderpal]

honestly yea i think he's making excuses...

i told him "You know what if you die tomorrow, then when you get to the gates of Sach Khand, what will you tell the chhota Sahibzadia? Oh i had really bad dandruff?"

THen he said " Yea but their father was Guru Gobind Singh Ji."

Then i just rolled my eyes and left....

yea i think its just excuses, may be this will be awake up fall for him, but yeah i mean i really don't think theres a need to make up a tally on how SIkhi is alot better than Hinduism...b/c its not about who's better its about Following to your Sat Guru, not having doubt in guru ji, if he has doubts, then only way to get rid of them is through Gurbani, and especially through Jap Ji sahib di paath.

but other than that i have no clue.... '

thank you again Veer JI and BHen Ji on the thoughts.. and replies

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