Poll On The Irish Turban Ban

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Dilmeen Kaur

Do you think the decision to ban turbans from the Garda uniform is racist?

Yes -60%

No - 40%

When I voted

Let's make the Yes vote much higher

[JagtarSinghKhalsa]

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Dilmeen Kaur

Do you think the decision to ban turbans from the Garda uniform is racist?

Yes -60%

No - 40%

When I voted

Let's make the Yes vote much higher

Just checked now Yes 56%, No 44%.

Please try and get more Yes votes in.

[JagtarSinghKhalsa]

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Have formed a poll asking people to vote for what they this is right.

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Please vote yes for the IRISH SIKHS

More YES votes means more positive decisions

Please pass on to as many people you know, we really need the support!

Thank you

Dilmeen Kaur

Do you think the decision to ban turbans from the Garda uniform is racist?

Yes -60%

No - 40%

When I voted

Let's make the Yes vote much higher

Just checked now Yes 56%, No 44%.

Please try and get more Yes votes in.

Now Yes 54%, No 46%.

Things appear to be going in the wrong direction from a Sikh perspective.

[g35]

I came across this news today. Does anyone know who these people are? Do they even have any sikh in their council?

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Turban row dismissed by Indian group

Council representing Irish Sikhs describes issue as 'meaningless'

Sunday September 02 2007

THE Garda ban on the wearing of the turban as part of its official uniform has opened up fresh divisions, this time within the Irish-Indian community itself.

The latest row centres on a letter sent to the Minister for Integration Conor Lenihan, in which the Ireland-India Council (IIC) dismisses the current row over the turban ban as "meaningless".

While Mr Lenihan -- who has already publicly stated his support for Garda Commissioner Noel Conroy's decision to ban the wearing of the turban by members of the force -- may be reassured by the show of support from the Irish-Indian organisation, it could yet pose a far greater difficulty for him in his role as Integration Minister.

Last night, President of the Irish Sikh Council, Harpreet Singh said his organisation had not been consulted by the IIC before it sent its letter to Mr Lenihan, or at any time prior to that in relation to the turban issue itself.

The IIC letter -- a copy of which has been seen by the Sunday Independent -- is bound to stir fresh controversy, and is almost certain to be raised by the Irish Sikh Council leadership when they meet with Garda Commissioner Noel Conroy this week to seek a reversal of the turban ban.

Addressing the issue of the ban in its letter to Integration Minister Conor Lenihan, the IIC's trustee and spokesman, Mr Prashant Shukla said: "The IIC consulted various Irish Indian groups across the State on the present turban issue.

"In these consultations it is clearly reflected that the issue raised by some members of the Sikh community in Ireland is unfortunate and defies logical understanding, as An Garda Siochana is already committed to making its police force multicultural. The present controversy only creates hindrances for wider integration issues."

Commenting on the matter of public demonstrations of faith which could be taken from allowing the wearing of religious symbols as part of the garda uniform, Mr Shukla defends the Garda Commissioner's decision further.

"We believe that religion and faith are very private aspects of an individual's life; their public demonstration may be offensive to others," he says.

The IIC trustee adds that members of the Sikh community have voluntarily restrained from wearing the turban, making the issue of the turban ban "meaningless".

[SaRpAnCh]

I came across this news today. Does anyone know who these people are? Do they even have any sikh in their council?

independent.ie/national-news/turban-row-dismissed-by-indian-group-1070013.html

Turban row dismissed by Indian group

Council representing Irish Sikhs describes issue as 'meaningless'

Sunday September 02 2007

THE Garda ban on the wearing of the turban as part of its official uniform has opened up fresh divisions, this time within the Irish-Indian community itself.

The latest row centres on a letter sent to the Minister for Integration Conor Lenihan, in which the Ireland-India Council (IIC) dismisses the current row over the turban ban as "meaningless".

While Mr Lenihan -- who has already publicly stated his support for Garda Commissioner Noel Conroy's decision to ban the wearing of the turban by members of the force -- may be reassured by the show of support from the Irish-Indian organisation, it could yet pose a far greater difficulty for him in his role as Integration Minister.

Last night, President of the Irish Sikh Council, Harpreet Singh said his organisation had not been consulted by the IIC before it sent its letter to Mr Lenihan, or at any time prior to that in relation to the turban issue itself.

The IIC letter -- a copy of which has been seen by the Sunday Independent -- is bound to stir fresh controversy, and is almost certain to be raised by the Irish Sikh Council leadership when they meet with Garda Commissioner Noel Conroy this week to seek a reversal of the turban ban.

Addressing the issue of the ban in its letter to Integration Minister Conor Lenihan, the IIC's trustee and spokesman, Mr Prashant Shukla said: "The IIC consulted various Irish Indian groups across the State on the present turban issue.

"In these consultations it is clearly reflected that the issue raised by some members of the Sikh community in Ireland is unfortunate and defies logical understanding, as An Garda Siochana is already committed to making its police force multicultural. The present controversy only creates hindrances for wider integration issues."

Commenting on the matter of public demonstrations of faith which could be taken from allowing the wearing of religious symbols as part of the garda uniform, Mr Shukla defends the Garda Commissioner's decision further.

"We believe that religion and faith are very private aspects of an individual's life; their public demonstration may be offensive to others," he says.

The IIC trustee adds that members of the Sikh community have voluntarily restrained from wearing the turban, making the issue of the turban ban "meaningless".

IIC?????????????Irish Indian Coucil,what a load of rubbish,since when did 'Indians',and Indian Councils become spokesmen for the Sikhs Community,another attempt by Indians,& Hindus to try and interfere in our Sikh Affairs wihout even consulting us.