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no its not the comercialisation. its the stuck in a rut mentality whereby someone who leanrs kirtan in a disco tune cos its easier sticks to it rather than progressing to the order set by Guru. i'll give you an example. we learn path. fisrt we learn to say the words corectly and then once we have lerant the words, then we apply the laga matra in the sentences. then we learn the arth of the path. then we teach others.

in kirtan we have raagis who learn disco tunes, and i have nothing agaisnt that, only i have something against it if that person is still sticking to that 20 years later. disco kirtan to raag kirtan is a natural essential progression. thats what me driving at.

i learnt how to play raag tilang (badly) and found a cd of mine of srinagar doing the same shabad but not in raag. OMG!! it sounded so awful, i couldnt listen to all of the shabad and had to switch it off before my brain exploded!

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no its not the comercialisation. its the stuck in a rut mentality whereby someone who leanrs kirtan in a disco tune cos its easier sticks to it rather than progressing to the order set by Guru. i'll give you an example. we learn path. fisrt we learn to say the words corectly and then once we have lerant the words, then we apply the laga matra in the sentences. then we learn the arth of the path. then we teach others.

in kirtan we have raagis who learn disco tunes, and i have nothing agaisnt that, only i have something against it if that person is still sticking to that 20 years later. disco kirtan to raag kirtan is a natural essential progression. thats what me driving at.

i learnt how to play raag tilang (badly) and found a cd of mine of srinagar doing the same shabad but not in raag. OMG!! it sounded so awful, i couldnt listen to all of the shabad and had to switch it off before my brain exploded!

I think a lack a real understanding and appreciation of Raag to fully get what your saying, but I can relate to your concern about lack of personal development.

At the end of the day whatever tools we have at the moment is unfortunatly what we need to use. The only way things will change is by real examples being set, if those "pakay raag walay" make the effort to perform regular daily kirtan within their local Gurdwaras then Sangat will become more familiar with raag. At the moment when it comes to committing to daily sewa, we still need to rely on the "disco" jathas as the "paka raag walay" don't seem to commit.

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rupinder the thing is that it takes years to learn raag vidya. you can bang out a tune on a baja in 1 hour. so most people take the easy option. before we had poeple who' s sole occupation was to learn raag vidya and perform kirtan, especailly if it was a family tradition. but as everyone is doing it these days it seems that most people are content to learn the easy stuff.

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