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maybe its my manmukh mind as i type but i really had this thing for the old havelock gurdwara site. You went there in the morning there was this feeling ( perhaps attachment), but now when i go there it seems like its built for tourism. the sangat community side to it does not seem as tight as it was when the old gurdwara stood. The the community side to it is replaced with tourists and security gaurds looking at you walking in. The simran at old havelock in mornings before it went to park avenue used to kick s it was really like your going home to meet your family thats the homely feel it had to it.

The numerous large scale paintings of Sant Jarnail Singh , Shaheed Bhai Sukhdev singh Ji Babbar and other martyrs , info on 84 and community and seva info on the walls of the gurdwara, x mount of singhs and kaurs in dastara buzzing the place doing seva and simran everyday with progs workshops rensbhais really showed u that place was tight and very active at the time. I think the first "right to wear karra" (or maybe dastaar too) marches in england were led from there. That place generated some wicked buzz.

Park avenue is really good too but maybe its just memories of havelock anyways sorry for going off on one. I think bikramjit singh ji is right bhai rama singh ji most likely meant park avenue cos his book came out when simran was at park ave which rocks too .

southall or west london is the place to be for simran progs. it would be really gud if the same happened in other places where a lot of sikhs are the way it kicks in southall.

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