Are You Eating Meat And You Dont Know About It

[silent sword]

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

If you look in the ingredients in the foods you eat you will notice something, it says natural flavor has anyone ever thought what that might be.

I did some research and found out its a whole lot of things including MEAT

For example Sun Chips French Onion flavor contains meat

So i decided to write a email to a branch of the canadian government

this was the response i got

September 2, 2008

From: Craig Johnston, Consumer Products, Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Subject: Natural Flavours Containing Meat

Yes, it is true that "Flavour" or "Natural Flavour" as listed in various ingredients lists may contain meat and other animal based products. Section B.01.010(3)(b) of the Food and Drug Regulation allows for the optional class name "flavour" if one or more substances prepared for their flavouring properties and produced from animal or vegetable raw materials or from food constituents derived solely from animal or vegetable raw materials.

Section B.01.009(2) of the same regulation allows for flavour preparations to be exempt from component declarations.

The components that must be shown if the class name "flavour" is used are: salt, glutamic acid or its salts; hydrolysed plant protein; aspartame; potassium chloride, and any ingredient or component that performs a function in, or has any effect on, that food. Further, this list also includes the nine priority allergins as identified by Health Canada: Peanuts; tree nuts; soy; wheat; eggs; sulphites; dairy; fish and shellfish.

Unfortunately, as you suggest, you may have to contact individual companies that use "flavour" in their ingredients lists to ensure the provisions of your faith requiring no meat consumption are respected.

Any changes to the regulations would have to be done through regulatory change by the current Federal Government of Canada. I encourage you to contact your local Member of Parlament in this regard.

Craig Johnston

I started checking out veggie forums and found out alot of people who are not sikh and chose not to eat meat know about this. And they check the food we eat.

We are sikhs, its our religion, how can we trust what we are eating

there is some many older sikhs who dont know and when they go shopping

they might be bringing home stuff and feeding it to the kids and dont have a clue that its got meat in it

After finding this out i stopped eating out and i try now to check everything i eat.

but its hard because some companies dont want to disclose what they have inside

This is sikhi

i think some sikhi organization should take a stand on this

not just in one part of this world

but in any part where this is going on

fight for this

the community is always getting a bad light shined upon us

this is something we should fight for

its not just for sikhs

but everyone who doesnt eat meat

please try to post this in everyone forum

i know people might fight over the issue of meat

well if you believe its wrong to eat it

then this is for you

if you think its not part of sikhi

then thats what you believe

lets leave it at that

and for the sikhs that keep sarbloh bibek

i know your probably gonna be like well you should keep sarbloh bibek

brothers i personally think we should all be like that too

and for anyone hating on those that can keep it

think about the kirpa these brothers have to able to maintain that

nothing but respect

but alot of us are weak

we dont have that discipline yet

maybe god will hook it up for us one day

but lets not make this into a fight againts each other

but lets stand on something and fight for what is right

lets not take a blind eye and say well there's so much you can do

no

lets just do it

i'm pray to god

that some sikh organization stands up

do the right thing

this is something we need to express to our local members of parliament

one person cant walk in , well maybe they can with guru ji's kirpa

and change things

so someone please take up this cause

this message is for all the gursikhs who have the numbers and pull in our community to do something

god has put you in the posistion to act for things like this

please take this up and stand up

i can go to local guys

but its not about one city

this is about all of canada

i dont know that many people haha

lets make a change

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

[Laadli Fauj]

keep bibek

prepare ur own food as much as possible

[jasleen k]

keep bibek

prepare ur own food as much as possible

agreed! if you are worried about what you're putting in your body, you shouldn't be eating junk food like chips anyway. even if you're not sikh, if you care about what you're putting in your body, prepare your own food, with fresh ingredients.

don't expect "sikh organizations" to do the work for you. they're busy, understaffed, underfunded, and tackling bigger problems like racial discrimination. it's not their job to read food labels for you.

sorry if i sound harsh, but i found your post kind of whiny and "why doesn't someone else do the work for me" sounding.

you're a SIKH. do the work yourself and know it's done right.

oh ya, do you know what french onion soup is? BEEF broth with onions. so yeah, duh, french onion flavoured food will probably have cow in it!

note: i don't keep sarbloh bibek. i have a lot of respect for those who do. but i do care about what goes into my body. our body belongs to Waheguru, not to us. we should take care of it. eat organic, fresh, and local and you'll never have these problems.

[silent sword]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

thank you for replies

i just want to note that i read all labels and check everything i eat

so its not a problem for me

plus on the label they dont note down that it contains meat

they just write natural flavor

also i dont eat chips

i think you shouldn't eat chips

my diet consists of grains tofu fruits nuts

so i didnt post this for myself

i'm just concerned for other people

fine its okay for me to tell them hey dont do this

but if they dont listen

i should at least suggest to them how if you are going to do that

be careful on what your eating

haha i just wanted to point it out for the brothers who it may concern

sorry for my stupidity for thinking french onion flavored chips which i dont eat have beef broth in it

i'm just a stupid person

thank you

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

[Mehtab Singh]

Lets all go and live in jungles! :1singh1:

[silent sword]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

- Castoreum: an extract from the ANAL MUSK glands of beavers

- Lipase: an enzyme extracted from calf toung, commonly found in dairy products like cheese

- Lanolin: a waxy fat extracted from sheep's wool, commonly found in chewing gum and products with added vitamin D3

- L-Cysteine Hydrochloride: a flour additive often extracted from duck feathers, commonly found in backing mixes

- Carmine or Cochineal: GROUND UP CARCASSES OF BEETLES! commonly used to color processed foods, even orange juice (Tropicana!!)

- Pepsin: an enzyme from pig stomachs

- Rennet or Rennin: an enzyme from the stomach of slaughtered calves

- Gelatin: boiled hooves, bones, and skin

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

[Laadli Fauj]

umm Mehtab singh, moving out to jungles would make it harder to keep bibek, seeing as farming doesnt work in jungly areas...

[Mehtab Singh]

umm Mehtab singh, moving out to jungles would make it harder to keep bibek, seeing as farming doesnt work in jungly areas...

I will employ wild animals.

[Laadli Fauj]

and grow jhona on their backs?

sounds good!

[jasleen k]

umm Mehtab singh, moving out to jungles would make it harder to keep bibek, seeing as farming doesnt work in jungly areas...

I will employ wild animals.

ok, just don't eat them!

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

thank you for replies

i just want to note that i read all labels and check everything i eat

so its not a problem for me

plus on the label they dont note down that it contains meat

they just write natural flavor

also i dont eat chips

i think you shouldn't eat chips

my diet consists of grains tofu fruits nuts

so i didnt post this for myself

i'm just concerned for other people

fine its okay for me to tell them hey dont do this

but if they dont listen

i should at least suggest to them how if you are going to do that

be careful on what your eating

haha i just wanted to point it out for the brothers who it may concern

sorry for my stupidity for thinking french onion flavored chips which i dont eat have beef broth in it

i'm just a stupid person

thank you

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

woah. sorry, i figured it was a discussion board and we could discuss the issue. i certainly didn't mean to insult you or make you feel stupid!

sorry...