Jump to content

Child marriage questions


Recommended Posts

Guest here, just had some questions

I wanted to ask if there is any scriptural prohibition of child marriage in the Guru Granth Sahib, the Dasam Granth or the Rehitnamas.

In the Rehitnama Bhai Daya Singh, on this website, it claims: The following sexual relations are prohibited: with a minor, a Muslim woman, a Brahman woman, a girl from one’s own sub-caste, a sister, or some other relative.

In the PDF Gurmukhi version, I discussed with a punjabi gurmukhi translator and it said that there is no mention of 'minor'.

https://vdocuments.mx/rehatnama-bhai-daya-singh.html?page=2


Also, what is a minor in sikhism and when do they become an adult? Is there any guidance on what is minimum age of marriage, or when the marriage can be consummated or when someone is too young to be married or old enough to marry from scripture? If

Is the Bhai Daya Singh universally accepted? 

In the 1945 Sikh Rehat Mardaya, it says that child marriage is taboo but not prohibited. Is the older rehitnama still applicable or is the 1945 bounding to sikhs now?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 10 months later...

 why the F**k are u concered about this

On 10/16/2022 at 4:28 PM, theoneinthewindow said:

Guest here, just had some questions

I wanted to ask if there is any scriptural prohibition of child marriage in the Guru Granth Sahib, the Dasam Granth or the Rehitnamas.

In the Rehitnama Bhai Daya Singh, on this website, it claims: The following sexual relations are prohibited: with a minor, a Muslim woman, a Brahman woman, a girl from one’s own sub-caste, a sister, or some other relative.

In the PDF Gurmukhi version, I discussed with a punjabi gurmukhi translator and it said that there is no mention of 'minor'.

https://vdocuments.mx/rehatnama-bhai-daya-singh.html?page=2


Also, what is a minor in sikhism and when do they become an adult? Is there any guidance on what is minimum age of marriage, or when the marriage can be consummated or when someone is too young to be married or old enough to marry from scripture? If

Is the Bhai Daya Singh universally accepted? 

In the 1945 Sikh Rehat Mardaya, it says that child marriage is taboo but not prohibited. Is the older rehitnama still applicable or is the 1945 bounding to sikhs now?

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just another heads up to the sangat. Analyse this. Clearly this guy is a nonce. And he is amongst us. He wont be the only one. These people are diseased. Their degenerate instincts don't go away.  You can tell by how some who have been banged up for years for this, go on and try and do the same thing soon after they are released. They will adopt all sorts of disguises to hide themselves - especially overtly religious ones. 

This is why we must be vigilant.

Guru ji has warned us about such people who on the surface look like humans but really underneath are lower than beasts:

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

how come this was picked up 10 months later ?!

Are you a minor yourself?  

Hope this does not turns like M when they justify aishas wedding to mohammed. She was 6 or 8! and she had her PeRiOD!

Also reading bani sometimes does not work. Many do still engage in this (the bad stuff). We need practical solutions dealing with KAAM 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...

Apne were getting married at stupidly young ages in the past. 

My great grandmother had my grandfather when she was just 13. 

There was a time when the life expectancy in India was just 40.

Thankfully this is no longer that common but I've read in very backwards parts of Punjab it still occurs. 

No excuses for it in today's age. And even when it did happen in the past it was between two similar aged people, not a 65 year old an a 9 year old. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...
On 9/24/2023 at 12:49 PM, ChardikalaUK said:

Apne were getting married at stupidly young ages in the past. 

My great grandmother had my grandfather when she was just 13. 

There was a time when the life expectancy in India was just 40.

Thankfully this is no longer that common but I've read in very backwards parts of Punjab it still occurs. 

No excuses for it in today's age. And even when it did happen in the past it was between two similar aged people, not a 65 year old an a 9 year old. 

no excuses, but these days people are getting married at stupidly older ages.

And a lot of teens, 20s and students have no control of their vikaar panj chor, and they end up in these stupid trash girlfriend boyfriend partnerships instead of anand karaj or marriage! They are really stupid in not getting married. Some people NEED to be married in their teens or by the time they reach 20! Although even 20 is too old for many people, they already have baggage by then, and some also have out of wedlock kids and abortions!

The biggest hypocrisy I used to see growing up was teens saying they are too young to get married, yet they used to make partners anyway through "dating" bakwass trash garbage! We need to change our mentality, and youngsters need to be explained to seriously that they should only be looking for marital partners, and not down this spiral!

this stuff is happening more and more because of looking for partners so LATE: 

Remember, at Guru jis' times the parents used to even start looking for future partners in the childrens' pre-teens, and this includes Guru jis. There is no excuses in starting to look for your childrens' partners in their 20s only! We are so ill-prepared, and so mentally ill-equipped.

Late marriages are also causing more sikhs to cut hair kesh and beard, and drinking and drug issues as well as smoking and hookah etc. There is less focus on grihast jeevan and more focus on depression, desires and pleasure.

We are also having less children, and too big age gaps between generations. Our Singh families should be having more children, and less gaps between ages. Need more Singhs to protect families and the panth, too many attackers on every side!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Everything in Gurbani points us towards the Atma. Atma and Parmatma are the same… Atama and Parmatma is the source that creates and causes everything… What have the following items got in common? A fan. A television. A fridge. A radio. A computer..? These things are powered by electricity. Without electricity these things are lifeless. It’s the electricity that causes these things to function… Atma is the source of energy that allows everything to happen.    without Atma, we are lifeless… Call this Atama RAGUNATH…call this Atma by any other name…the fact remains that it’s the life force energy… Dieties also have the same Atma as humans, but they still part of the creation, and not the creator…  
    • Hi I want to know who’s ragunath in gurbani Hindu claim this word appear for ram chandra if we read guru teg bahadur maharaj salok maharaj clearly rejecting ram gayo ravan geo but at the last pangti Kahu naanak īh bipaṭi mai tek ēyk ragɦunaaṭɦ ॥55॥ Says Nanak, in this calamity, the Lord alone is my support who is this ragunaath why would maharaj use ragunath as refrence for god?
    • Throughout history we have been tested and tried. We remained steadfast and resiliant. The events that took place in Punjab and outside of Punjab in the past years made it quite clear we are big players in the game which kept the world powers on edge. It started off with the drug pandemic in Punjab, to the uproar by Bhai Amritpal Singh to the Farmer's protest. Outside of Punjab the deaths of Avtar Singh Khanda (UK) and Hardeep Singh Nijjar (Canada) created a stir within our community. This was probably our first real opportunity to establish something but how quickly members of our own community forget history. We have been a threat to civilization in the past and this is probably what the world powers are concerned about. However, may we continue grow and learn through Gurbani and like Jaswant Singh Khalra said: 'May the spirit of equal rights Punjab continue to kindle'. 
    • This is why people used to get married earlier in puratan times. Think about it, nowadays you legit have to be brahmacharya at ages when you're supposed to be married and producing children, which historically speaking, is unprecedented outside of the Sants in Indic tradition. 
    • I think that user has not been on the forum since around 2011. You can message me if you want.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use