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The sgpc want to ruin everyuthing. they want to distroy sikh heritage.

get wat they want to do know.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040626/.../punjab1.htm#19.

Covering ‘beri’ tree may disturb birds’ habitat

Varinder Walia

Tribune News Service

Amritsar, June 25

The over-enthusiasm of the SGPC to cover the five-century old “Ber Baba Budha” tree with fibre glass to keep “parikarma” of the Golden Temple free from shedding leaves could disturb the natural habitat of birds, especially sparrows.

The existence of the ancient tree is under threat as the SGPC has put up a steel frame around it without consulting experts. A marble frame has already been constructed around lower portion of the tree to preserve the memory of Baba Budha, the first Head Granthi of Darbar Sahib who used to supervise the construction of the Sikh shrine. The iron frame is also obstructing the view of the Golden Temple.

This is being done at a time when the SGPC has been making allout efforts to get the Golden Temple declared as world heritage site by UNESCO.

Mr Major Singh, manager, Darbar Sahib, however, claimed that experts were consulted before making efforts to preserve the tree. He said the existence of the tree was under threat and experts from Punjab Agricultural University had started visiting the Golden Temple for organic treatment against insects. He said the fibre glass was being put up

to save “parikarma” from droppings of the birds.

However, Dr Gurbachan Singh Bachan, former SGPC secretary, said that in his capacity as Coordinator, NSS, Guru Nanak Dev University, had made the first-ever attempt to save the ancient three “beri trees” in the Golden Temple complex about two decades ago. He said he had sought the services of Dr Khem Singh Gill, the then Vice-Chancellor, PAU, who had deputed a high-level team for preserving the tree. He, however, said that loading the tree with tonnes of iron frame and fibre glass would definitely disturb the natural habitat of sparrows. He said Sikhism was compatible to the environment and ecology and hence many Sikh shrines were named after trees.

Dr Suresh Chauhan, nature expert, said that the efforts of the SGPC to cover the lower portion of the tree with fibre glass would adversely affect the air pressure too. He said there was need to lessen the weight rather. Dr Chauhan said that engulfing of tree with iron and electric tubes would adversely affect its health.

Dr Bachan said that in 1986 he had persuaded the radical Sikhs, who were in full control of Darbar Sahib, to prune some branches of the tree with a view to lessening its weight. The experts had also helped in sprouting “beri” at the root level.

i cant belive this, they are intent on distroying the artifacts we have left. they are killing us slowly :cool: @

(i prob wont answer for a while cause exam :wub: )

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nanakhshai calander is a good thing.. it is historically better/correct..

it was great eventually. no one took notice in 99 when it was released.

the other thing is even that has inaccuracies. somethings are same time as old calander cause they negotiated with he gov.

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:| distroy sikh heritage??

What are you talking about Singh? They are trying to find out how the Baba Buddha Sahib Ber is to be protected....they are not ruining something..

offcourse there is discussion before every matter, and that is good. if something is not done maybe the Beri tree falls down or something...

now scientist can argue that the steel frame is not good, but at the time it was fixed i guess it was the best option...

changes have to be made from time to time...we can't expect our heritage to stay without renovation and protection!

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take ur point, but shud be distroy the wild life. the birds wont stay. look at lots of things.

some people will argue in 84 Akal Takath shudnt have been rebuilt, etc. it was white washed as if nothing took place. at jalianh wale bagh bullet holes are marked till this day. y do we insist o white washing our heritage.

tha granthi of darbar sahib says now the filter is installed it hasnt remained that sacred place. other will argue they arent cleaning there mnd thats y they arnt getting better and its not to do with the water.

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