Namdhari Behaviour Very Wrong

[humkire]

SOme can control this urge and some cannot. It all depends on which avasthaa is he in.We cannot Interpret this avasthaa because we have not felt it.

That is exactly why, one should not be dabbling in this sort of stuff if one’s understanding of Gurbani and Sikhi are very limited. Sikhism helps us to strike the right balance between our understanding and experience. It is ridiculous to go off tangent, and off balance, in the name of mysticism when you need to focus first on getting your understanding of basic Sikhi right. This is how people become manipulated, used , cheated and irrelevant to the needs and purposes and callings of the Khalsa Panth. If someone cannot control this urge they really need to get off it immediately and learn the art of controlling your urges that’s lesson One in Sikhi before you claim to be any higher!

And do not hide your weakness in controlling your urges in the disguise of ‘avastha’. Gurbani hardly even bothers repeating this word ‘avastha’ too much because Sikhi has more to do with a humble day to day life lived in the Hukum of Akal Purukh than to be classifying one’s life according to one’s tiny little spiritual avastha a term that lends itself to the birth of ego within a spiritual person faster than the weeds that grow in my garden!

You are entirely wrong in stating ‘’ We cannot Interpret this avastha because we have not felt it.’’ Speak for yourself , not others!

You need to do your homework and read Professor Sahib Singh’s translation and exposition of the verse you quoted starting with koi kahe…. and other teekas as well to realise you have quoted it out of context to try to substantiate the wrong point you made! You have copied the boring old habit that Radhaswamis, Nirangkaris Namdharis and Neeldharis have of conveniently, borrowing and misquoting verses from Gurbani to somehow justify their version of religion and mysticism, when it is blatantly obvious these verses are set within a deeper and higher context of meaning to unfold the mainstream philosophy of Sikhism that you would be familiar with if you stopped busying yourself with namdharee gurus and dogma and instead dug deep into the writings of Bhai Gurdas and Bhai Sahib Bhai Bhai Vir Singh, Professor Puran Singh and others.

At the end of the day, this is a website that exists to introduce all visitors and members to the teachings of mainstream Sikhism, not its dodgy offshoot suckers like the Namdharis and etc. I do not appreciate people from cults and other religions hanging around here like silent viruses waiting for oppurtunities to twist and turn Gurbani, Sikh philosophy and Sikh history in order to justify, defend and propagate the teachings of their cults in the name of Sikhism!

[innergear]

Yeh so wan u go to all night kirtan n they r shakin ther heds on waheguru . . . Wagu . . . Wagu tha is not sehaj n is it not much in line with teachlins? Please tell u thoughts?

[humkire]

Yeh so wan u go to all night kirtan n they r shakin ther heds on waheguru . . . Wagu . . . Wagu tha is not sehaj n is it not much in line with teachlins? Please tell u thoughts?

Yes, you are right. We should focus on humbling ourselves in the presence of Gurujee, giving 100% attention to whats being said, read, or sung and using that as a medium and means to have a deep inner surrender and communication with Gurujee, keeping our bodies relaxed, and as still as possible, so we can focus on Gurujee's presence, be in sehaj and samadhi, and draw no attention to our self, or distract others through our movements. This is the best and most mature etiquette to follow in Gurughar.