Sikhi And Astrology, Horoscopes, Future Reading?

[DalbirSingh]

I've heard from sikh paracharaks horoscopes, babas all this hocus pocus it utter nonsense. But do we have historical sources to justify it's wrong or gurbani or rehat? If so can people post some?

We can see in history the gurus predicted events, gave future events, Guru nanak's forehead was read by a pandit predicting his greatness. We can see many great sikh figures today have kundalanis done were hindu pandits are birth predict the childs life, including number of partners, they can predict if the person will divorce, how many children they will have, some predict the gender of their children (bare in mind this father in question is still a baby at the time of prediction), they predict occupation, degrees (numbers of it), where they would live, what numbers, dates, gem stones, metals are lucky and unlucky, what foods might be lucky or unlucky. They predict career path, some can be vague some not so vague. There are such predictions in place such as of udham singhs and bhagat singhs, however it could be with those it was faked after the events.

We see people going to mullahs, sheikhs, pirs and fakir babas to predict future and change the events of the future, in sikh history and amongst present sikhs. But guru ji took a rigid stance against these blind rituals where is the backing of the history, bani and so forth?

[Guest dasguruka]

I've heard from sikh paracharaks horoscopes, babas all this hocus pocus it utter nonsense. But do we have historical sources to justify it's wrong or gurbani or rehat? If so can people post some?

We can see in history the gurus predicted events, gave future events, Guru nanak's forehead was read by a pandit predicting his greatness. We can see many great sikh figures today have kundalanis done were hindu pandits are birth predict the childs life, including number of partners, they can predict if the person will divorce, how many children they will have, some predict the gender of their children (bare in mind this father in question is still a baby at the time of prediction), they predict occupation, degrees (numbers of it), where they would live, what numbers, dates, gem stones, metals are lucky and unlucky, what foods might be lucky or unlucky. They predict career path, some can be vague some not so vague. There are such predictions in place such as of udham singhs and bhagat singhs, however it could be with those it was faked after the events.

We see people going to mullahs, sheikhs, pirs and fakir babas to predict future and change the events of the future, in sikh history and amongst present sikhs. But guru ji took a rigid stance against these blind rituals where is the backing of the history, bani and so forth?

Hmm Ofcourse every parent wants his or her child to have a good future and for this very reason I was given a gem stone. This was when I was not an Amritdhari but was looking forward to it. Well it didn't go well. We can choose to have faith in Guru or in a gem stone.

In Islam it is a shirk to have faith in anything else but One God. According to them if you commit murder then you'll be forgiven but shirk is not forgiven.

Hope Guru Sahib gives everyone the strength to have complete faith in Him

[luckysingh99]

I've heard from sikh paracharaks horoscopes, babas all this hocus pocus it utter nonsense. But do we have historical sources to justify it's wrong or gurbani or rehat? If so can people post some?

We can see in history the gurus predicted events, gave future events, Guru nanak's forehead was read by a pandit predicting his greatness. We can see many great sikh figures today have kundalanis done were hindu pandits are birth predict the childs life, including number of partners, they can predict if the person will divorce, how many children they will have, some predict the gender of their children (bare in mind this father in question is still a baby at the time of prediction), they predict occupation, degrees (numbers of it), where they would live, what numbers, dates, gem stones, metals are lucky and unlucky, what foods might be lucky or unlucky. They predict career path, some can be vague some not so vague. There are such predictions in place such as of udham singhs and bhagat singhs, however it could be with those it was faked after the events.

We see people going to mullahs, sheikhs, pirs and fakir babas to predict future and change the events of the future, in sikh history and amongst present sikhs. But guru ji took a rigid stance against these blind rituals where is the backing of the history, bani and so forth?

Are you saying that you want evidence to point at the underlying core principles of sikhi such as belief in superstition, omens,auspicous dates, horoscopes, astrology, pandit consultation, wearing naghs and all that rubbish to be proven as NOT being Gurmat ?? :stupidme:

I'm not sure where or on what issue you are finding doubts and discrepancies, but you should probably first try to understand what HUKAM really means and what Guru Nanakji explains about it near the beginning of Japji sahib.

I hope that your doubts get addressed before we lose another Sikh to babay shabey and clairvoyants :nono: :omg: !!