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There are many pages in facebook created by fanatic hindus who are attacking and challenging Gurmat and most of Sikhs have no answer to them . Can we create articles to shut up these people for forever ?

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https://www.facebook.com/SarcasticIndianJ?fref=ufi

Dalits, Neo-Sikhs and Khalastani's have always been showing hatred for Brahamans.... and also calling them as cowards...without even recognizing the scribes who fearlessly assisted their gurus...some even gave up their lives.....I think it is because of Brahamins that Kshatriays and Rajputs were always reminded of their heritage and duty...and in some cases such brahmins like the Peshwas of maratha empire...lead the wars from the front and played a very important role in the revival of Hinduism in India.......
and then Sikh reply and started debate
  • Ajaypal Singh Brar Scribes who assisted their guru's and distorted his teachings .....and except by mati dass and sati dass can you name any brahmin who gave his life.....in case of tegh bahadurs case at least thousands of kashmiri pundits should have laid down their lives....but what you expect from a community which ran away from their motherland without giving a fight back in modern India......

  • SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare com'on Ajaypal Singh Brar ji so you mean that Guru Nanak meant Allah every where and Scribes wrote it as Shiv...Chandi etc
  • SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare and I guess that touch of Pundits is causing Sikhs to reject and convert almost entire meaing of Guru Granth into a Quranic interpretation.....
  • SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare //n case of tegh bahadurs case at least thousands of kashmiri pundits should have laid down their lives..../// many Pundits were already giving their lives... they also converted one of their son as Sikhs....

  • SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare and do you disagree that it were the same Sikhs who gave almost no resistance to the invaders when they came knocking their doors and ran away until their gurus were killed...it is all about organizing and nothing about caste.....

  • SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare it is because of pundits and Gurus association with them that Sikhism is still in dharmic form...otherwise it would have been another Abrahamic religion more than what Khalistanis are currently projecting.....
  • Ajaypal Singh Brar Have you read guru granth sahib ...or any of its tikkas by modern Sikhs .....??? And can you name any brahmin scribe of any guru ....??? And any brahmin by name who converted his family to Sikhism and laid down his life as khalsa fighting the enemy ..???

  • SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare //And can you name any brahmin scribe of any guru// so now you want to say that there were no Brahmin scribes of gurus ??

  • Ajaypal Singh Brar Sikhism can never ever be Judaic Christian religion ....guru Nanak was a real Hindu hero and very basis of his teachings was return to old Hindu thought and purity ....he looked down upon malechas and scorned Hindus who followed Muslim customs ....I can quote innumerable bani on this ....moolmanter itself is paraphrasing of Gods description in vedas
  • Ajaypal Singh Brar Why don't you give even one name ....of brahmin scribe of gurus
  • SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare you yourself have given them...
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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare and Ajaypal Singh Brar ji...if you combine entire sikh population at all times....more that that were stood for dharma and their religion near all the temples .....and were massacard by muslim invadors...when entire sikhs in the north failed to protect the bordesrs...

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Ajaypal Singh Brar Never ever ....there is bhatt bani , but they were not scribes of gurus ....they sung praises of gurus ..and equated guru arjans pontiff as ram rajya ..no wonder jahangir ordered gurus execution... later senapati , koer Singh chibber and many other wrote about Sikh gurus and their lives ...but none was their scribe ...adi granth scribe was bhai gurdas and talwandi bir was written by bhai Mani Singh .( I need to check bhai Mani Singh's ancestory ) ....

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare Ajaypal Singh Brar ji...just think logically during gurus do you think the kshetriyas had enough knowledge of vedas to become scribes???

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare even normal brahmins did not have knowledge of vedas...unless they were shashtris...

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare http://www.sikhnet.com/.../brahmins-contribution-sikhism...

Brahmins' contribution to Sikhism highlighted | SikhNet

www.sikhnet.com

Out of 35 authors whose writings have been incorporated in Guru Granth Sahib, 16 were Brahmins, making their contribution 45 percent.

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Ajaypal Singh Brar I don't think its our job to protect the northern borders ....why and for whom .and by the way SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare jee those tribes who fought the invaders coming from north are today Muslims and reside in Pakistan ...gakhars of salt range gave resistance to Babur ..khokars and tiwana gave tough time to Timur ......and ones who sided with Babur are today Hindu's ...history is not so black and white

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare you mean it was not the job of those who were staying there?

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare and btw who where Mohyal?

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Ajaypal Singh Brar SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare plz stop relying on these net circulated info ....only bani that is by brahmins in sggs is called bhatt bani and its just eulogising of gurus ...as I stated in earlier ....please read that part of sggs it is nothing but piece of crap

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare Ajaypal ji...so you mean to say that people other than Brahmins put in the verse of Vedas?

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Ajaypal Singh Brar Mohyal brahmins too belong to salt range...bhai mati dass and sati dass are mohayal...all chibbers , khsyap and some more like prashar are mohayal ..they are also called Hussaini brahmins as they were part of shia army at battle of Karbala.....mohyals too were given martial status by British ...rather all tribes of salt range were accorded martial status ...salt range forms bulk of Pakistan's army today ...

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Ajaypal Singh Brar Which verse of Vedas is there in granth sahib..... have you yourself read it ....

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Ajaypal Singh Brar Can you quote the page number or mehl or raag ...I will check it up ....

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare 1. God created Vedas (Onkaar ved nirmaye- Rag Ramkali Mahla 1 Onkar Shabd 1)Further, the Guru Granth Sahib very clearly elucidates on the glory of Vedas:

2. With order of God Vedas were created so that humans can decide what is virtue and sin (Hari aagya hoye Ved paap punya vichaariya- Maru Dakhne Mahla 5 Shabd 17)

3. No one can value the importance of Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samveda and Atharvaveda (Sam Ved, Rig, Yajur, Atharvan brahme mukh maaiya hai traigun, taakee keemat kah na sakai ko….- Marusolahe Mahla 1 Shabd 17)

4. God created day, night, forests, greenery, water and 4 Vedas that are like 4 treasures (Chaar Ved chaare khaani- Rag Maru Mahla 5 Shabd 17)

5. How can glory of Vedas be stated whose knowledge is without end (Ved vakhaan kahahi ik kahiye, oh ve ant ant kin lahiye- Vasant Ashtapadiyan Mahla 1.3)

6. Of the infinite texts, Vedas are the best (Asankh granth mukhi Ved paath- Japuji 17)

7. All the Shastras, Vedas and ancient texts describe the Supreme Lord (Smriti sastra Ved puraan paar brahm ka karahi vakhiyaan- Gaund Mahla 5 Shabd 17)

8. Noble persons elucidate the glory of Vedas but unfortunate people do not understand (Ved bakhiyaan karat saadhujan bhaagheen samjhat nahi khalu- Todi Mahla 5 Shabd 26)

9. Study of Vedas enhances knowledge by blessings of God (Kahant Veda gunant guniya…- Sahaskriti Mahla 5.14)

10. Analysis of Vedas, Shastras and ancient texts enriches the entire family and makes them lucky (Ved puran saasatr vichaaram…. badbhaagi Naanak ko taaram- Gatha Mahla 5.20)

11. Vedas describe the glory of one God (Kal mein ek naam kripaanidhi … ih vidhi Ved bataavai- Rag Sortha Mahla 9 Shabd 5)

12. Do not say that Vedas are false. False are those people who do not analyze (Ved katev kahahu mat jhoothe jhootha jo na vichaare- Rag Prabhati Kabirji Shabd 3)

13. Those who studied Vedas were called Vedis. They initiated noble virtuous acts. Listening to Rigveda, Samveda, Yajurveda and Atharveda destroyed all sins. (Jinai Ved padhyo suvedi kahaaye… Padhe Sam Vedam Yajur Ved Kattham Rigam Ved paathayam kare bhaav hattham… Atharav Ved pathayam suniyo paap nathiyam…- Dasham Guru Granth Sahib Vichitra Natak Adhyaya 4)

Ajaypal Singh Brar Ved keteb anek kahyeo mat ek na manyo .....this is guru gobind Singh's composition ,...he says that some asked me to follow Vedas and some Quran ...but I didn't follow any of these and didn't agree with either of them

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare so you mean to say that he had contradictory views or he was confused?

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare . Page469 Line 15 Raag Aasaa: Guru Angad Dev

eyk ik®snµ srb dyvw dyv dyvw q Awqmw ]

eaek kirasanan sarab dhaevaa dhaev dhaevaa th aathamaa ||

The One Lord Krishna is the Divine Lord of all; He is the Divinity of the individual soul.

1. Page2 Line 9 Raag Jap: Guru Nanak Dev

guru eIsru guru gorKu brmw guru pwrbqI mweI ]

gur eesar gur gorakh baramaa gur paarabathee maaee ||

The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi.

2. Page199 Line 6 Raag Gaurhee: Guru Arjan Dev

so bYsno hY Apr Apwru ]

so baisano hai apar apaar ||

Infinitely invaluable is that Vaishnaav, that worshipper of Vishnu,

3. Page274 Line 6 Raag Gaurhee Sukhmanee: Guru Arjan Dev

bYsno so ijsu aUpir supRsMn ]

baisano so jis oopar suprasann ||

The true Vaishnaav, the devotee of Vishnu, is the one with whom God is thoroughly pleased.

4. Page300 Line 12 Raag Thitee Gaurhee: Guru Arjan Dev

so surqw so bYsno so igAwnI DnvMqu ]

so surathaa so baisano so giaanee dhhanavanth ||

They are intuitively wise, and they are Vaishnaavs, worshippers of Vishnu; they are spiritually wise, wealthy and prosperous

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare I will just post some verses which are derivation from vedas

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Ajaypal Singh Brar But all these shabads are by various gurus ....how come brahmins were scribes of these verses ...this is eulogy of Vedas ..not verses from Vedas ...I agree that guru Nanak was not out to create what Sikhs of today identify themselves but he had stated Hindu Reformation movement .....today the whole concept has taken some other form ..thanks to British propaganda as well as some leaders who try to create separate identity for Sikhs .....

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Ajaypal Singh Brar I don't think guru gobind Singh had contradictory view ..maybe some distortion later on ...as this is not part of sggs

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare @Ajaypal Singh Brar ji almost all the gurus had their contributions...so you think Sikhs should reject the contribution of Gurugobind singh just because it doesn't fit in the Sikhism which appeals to mindset of whites....

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Ajaypal Singh Brar I agree that guru Nanak and his successors taught vashnaiv Hindu thought ....but who can dare to say so in today's punjab

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare Ajaypal ji...if there were any distortion from Bhatt brahmins...do you think the other gurus would have spared them??

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Ajaypal Singh Brar SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare jee ....I share ancestor with maharaja Patiala , other phulkian states and chaudhary charan Singh ....all of belong to same clan ....our one common ancestor called sanghar sided with Babur in battle of panipat and died fighting ...mughals conferred the area of cis satluj ...to brars ....but I don't understand why the hell our ancestors later opposed these very mughals and sided with guru gobind Singh ....I personally feel ..had they converted to Islam ..it would have made better economic and political sense ...

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Ajaypal Singh Brar Why you mix bhatt bani with later on distortion by brahmins like koer Singh chibber and senapati ..by this time gurus were not around ...

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare and ajaypal ji do you think that until the Sikh rule of Ranjit Singh...this fact purposely was simply ignored even though sikhs were in rule......and.why this convorvercy of dasham granth started after british rulle???

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Ajaypal Singh Brar Awen hee guruyan de piche lag gaye ....

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare @Ajaypal Singh Brar ji most of the sikhs did convert.....they are today ruling pakistan

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Ajaypal Singh Brar Oh British did lot of things to divide Hindu and Sikhs ...and later congress carried on and completed the task ....

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Ajaypal Singh Brar Yes but these conversions were much later .....for jatt land is more important than religion ......

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare I have seen that now some of the Khalistani have realized folly and are endorsing back Dasham granth ...of course with new "hindu safe" intepretation.....

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SarcasticIndian Whoisannahazare regarding the OP...most of the people are ignorant that after the fighters or Kshetrias failed......in the process of protecting Temples...innumerable Brahmins laid their lives....the bloodshed is mentioned in all the persian memoirs of the Muslim inva...

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spend more time converting hindu's than challenging these atheist indians and bramin hindu extremists.

There are 800 million hindus in india. The bahman leadership is scared of the masses of lower castes below them converting to other religions. Their primary target is Islam because that has and is taking alot of low caste sudra dalits as new muslims, then second target is Christianity because that too is trying to take their hindu base, the 3rd target is Sikhism because it is strictly against the caste system and strong separatist tenancies for Sikhs to have their own rule and governance. So the hindu bahman leadership applies their resources and attention accordingly.

Sikhs should be doing parchaar to hindus to convert to Sikhi rather than get into useless debates with fools online.

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