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Superkaur highlighted positives and negatives and potential improvements to the format of Basics of Sikhi videos. Agreeing with some, not all of her points I would like to ask how the Sangat here feel Jagraj Singh can better his channel and parchar, he is already doing a fantastic job most of the time which is what counts. So do we all agree with his views or not?

I for one believe that Sikhism is not compatible with homosexuality, whereas their leaflets say it's acceptable in not so many words.

Please post anonymously if that's your preference, I think it will be constructive feedback.

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Superkaur highlighted positives and negatives and potential improvements to the format of Basics of Sikhi videos. Agreeing with some, not all of her points I would like to ask how the Sangat here feel Jagraj Singh can better his channel and parchar, he is already doing a fantastic job most of the time which is what counts. So do we all agree with his views or not?

I for one believe that Sikhism is not compatible with homosexuality, whereas their leaflets say it's acceptable in not so many words.

Please post anonymously if that's your preference, I think it will be constructive feedback.

I think they are doing best as they can, but obviously nobody can be perfect. It would be good to contact them and forward any ideas anybody has, rather than only write them on a forum. This is good too, so there maybe others with same opinions and ideas, but they won't know unless they are told about them also.

As sangat, we all have a responsibility to do our bit, and get involved. Now, I'm not saying take over or belittle or jeopardise what they are doing. They put a lot of work into what they do, but we should work along with them and suggest whatever that can make there channel and parchars better, as sincerely as we can as brothers and sisters getting along together for Sikhi.

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Basics of Sikhi should organise an Amrit Sanchar exclusively for the Bibis, by the Bibis.

No Amrit Sanchar should be for just boys or for just girls, every Amrit Sanchar should be CO-GENDER, (in initiates), also BasicsOfSikhi doesn't believe in changing ithiaas, in most places taking Amrit from female Pyare isn't something some would agree with. (Even though they have said females are allowed to be Punj Pyare, they won't try it, and from Jugraj Singh's Diaspora Takht, he has said he won't the Punj Pyare).
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On 7/4/2016 at 3:02 AM, Guest Guest said:

What's the Diaspora Takht?

The Diaspora Takht is an idea that Jugraj Singh had where Sikhs from outside of India can unite together and have a voice in future Akal Takht and Panthic decisions and get involved in the Panth. It's not an actual thing at current times, nor does Jugraj Singh plan on making this thing if it ever happens into a Takht, but rather a Sikh get together. Also he believes that such a place should be led by Punj Pyare and not a Jathedar. *Note(A Gurdwara can not become a Takht, many will point to Takht Damdama Sahib; however, it was an educational institution rather than a Takht and used to watch over the Talhts.)

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      By BhForce · Posted

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    • BhForce
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      Umm, so you're upset that this jatha did Chaupai the same way it's being done at Harimandar Sahib for 100 years? Shouldn't you be upset at the manager of Darbar Sahib? I'm not saying that Sikhs who are aware of certain issues shouldn't do the longer Chaupai, but there are only so many battles you can fight. Instead of calling some jatha traitors because they're doing the (for better or worse) "standard" Chauapai published by the SGPC, it would be better to change things from the central point. You can't fault the average Sikh for picking up the average Gutka and doing paath.
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