Muhammad In The Sggs

[Guest anon sikh]

Islamic text and history tells us that muhammad was a very immoral person who was involving in raping infidel woman, slavery, sex with a 9 year.

Why would such a poor person of character be mentioned in the sggs?

[Guest Kira.2]

Islamic text and history tells us that muhammad was a very immoral person who was involving in raping infidel woman, slavery, sex with a 9 year.

Why would such a poor person of character be mentioned in the sggs?

The same way many imperfect beings were mentioned in there. TO highlight certain humanistic characteristics that are undesirable.

For example it is mentioned how the gods are lost in their own ego, highlighting that we should not be engrossed in similar acts of materialism and also how Guru Nanak Dev Ji's children turned their back on their on father possibly to highlight that we should never turn our backs on our own father (Akaal Purkh)

[Guest wrong]

He hasn't been mentioned in the sggs!

Many devte, brahma etc have been mentioned though

[Guest Read]

Read Dasam Granth Sahib Ji

I read all of it when I was 20 yrs old and it really opened my eyes.

As many other insightful Truths, it explains that God send down many messengers before our Gurus to spread and teach the Truth but they fell into ego, including prophet Mohammed who wrongfully began circumcising people.

It explains that God send the Gurus as beacons of light to spread uncorrupted Truth again.

This Granth Sahib Ji instilled in me at the time such a great warrior spirit when I read it.

[Guest Sad to read this]

Islamic texts and history? I hardly think so. Stop insulting and start consulting ACTUAL texts - as opposed to the hate-filled bile that passes for literature in your prejudiced eyes.

I have always defended Sikhs despite my misgivings about some of what I, perhaps in ignorance, consider to be inconsistencies and inequalities. Kindly extend the same favour to me.

[Guest Just Be]

The Gurus said if you're a muslim, be a good muslim. Islam does contain passages which don't really match up to the pure teachings also contained in there, so i would suggest that you take the Pure core teachings contained in it, and ignore the parts that don't make sense.

It is no secret that many religions have been corrupted over time and Islam is a very old religion.

[Akalifauj]

The Gurus said if you're a muslim, be a good muslim. Islam does contain passages which don't really match up to the pure teachings also contained in there, so i would suggest that you take the Pure core teachings contained in it, and ignore the parts that don't make sense.

It is no secret that many religions have been corrupted over time and Islam is a very old religion.

The Gurus ( Gurbani) does not say to be a good Muslim in the context of the Koran. When Gurbani speak of Muslims to be good it mean to go back to the original meaning of what Muslim means; to submit to God. English translations do not do justice to what the Gurus have said. Please learn Gurmukh and find out for yourself what the Gurus have said.

[Guest Just be]

That's what I meant

The Gurus ( Gurbani) does not say to be a good Muslim in the context of the Koran. When Gurbani speak of Muslims to be good it mean to go back to the original meaning of what Muslim means; to submit to God. English translations do not do justice to what the Gurus have said. Please learn Gurmukh and find out for yourself what the Gurus have said.

That's what I meant, hence I wrote about taking the pure core teachings.

[Akalifauj]

That's what I meant

That's what I meant, hence I wrote about taking the pure core teachings.

What pure core teachings of the Koran are you referring too? From reading Gurbani (Bachittar Natak and Bhagats Bani) we can see the Gurus are no different than Akal Purakh. Yet Muhammad was only seen as a messenger who failed in his mission (Bachittar Natak). The Koran has never been given the title Satgur ki Bani nor has it's so called pure core teachings ever been given the title by the Gurus as Satgur Ki Bani. The Bhagats reached the realm of Sachkhand only after been given Satgur ki kirpa by Satguru Nanak Dev ji. Bhagat Bani was only accepted as Satgur ki Bani after being approved by Satguru Nanak Dev ji. No one has the right to label anything as pure in the context of equating it to Gurbani teachings other than Satguru Nanak Dev ji. Nothing is pure as Gurbani. Nothing in anything or anywhere. Gurbani is one of a kind and nothing can equate to it or even have an ounce of similarity to it.

Simply saying, practice truth is not pure core teachings of Akal Purakh; its not Gurbani. A person can interpret this according to their upbringing and/or based on their culture (we know how this turns out in the world). Same goes for saying there is one God. The Muslims and Christians all believe in one God but they can't agree on what this one God is.

Those who read Gurbani and practice Gurbani start to see a glimpse of Naam in everything. Many times in Gurbani, Guru Sahib has said I see Naam everywhere including the vedas, yet Guru Sahib says the vedas are stuck in the 3 gunas and don't know about the fourth state (how to reach Akal Purakh).

These blanketed statements don't help anyone. Not the one saying them or the one who is listening or the one who get's excited over hearing them.