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I have heard chaupai sahib helps protect against black magic or stuff if someone did it on you . 

I know I am sounding a lil superstititous but if someone did daily paath , will black still affect them or their family members ?

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2 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

I have heard chaupai sahib helps protect against black magic or stuff if someone did it on you . 

I know I am sounding a lil superstititous but if someone did daily paath , will black still affect them or their family members ?

You'll never get a straight answer to this, because the most devout Sikhs fall victim to this nonsense at times, and for some reason this upsets the non-afflicted devout Sikhs, who then argue, "Well, you obviously weren't devout enough!"

Like most things, I genuinely believe it depends on one's karams. I suppose only a true sant or brahmgyani would be powerful enough to knowingly resist it based on the strength of their bhagti. Others might be lucky and swerve the full force of it through a quirk of fate, etc., but something like that leaves its mark. Most people get both barrells, and it's usually curtains depending on the intended affect and the timescale.  

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You'll never get a straight answer to this, because the most devout Sikhs fall victim to this nonsense at times, and for some reason this upsets the non-afflicted devout Sikhs, who then argue, "Well, you obviously weren't devout enough!"

Like most things, I genuinely believe it depends on one's karams. I suppose only a true sant or brahmgyani would be powerful enough to knowingly resist it based on the strength of their bhagti. Others might be lucky and swerve the full force of it through a quirk of fate, etc., but something like that leaves its mark. Most people get both barrells, and it's usually curtains depending on the intended affect and the timescale.  

are you suggesting black magic or spells intended to harm someone are more powerful than the utterance of gurbani , esp when gurbani is recited on daily basis ?

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are you suggesting black magic or spells intended to harm someone are more powerful than the utterance of gurbani , esp when gurbani is recited on daily basis ?

Anecdotally, it destroyed two of the most stringently devout and decent young Singhs I knew when I was a teen. These were Singhs with rehat you would not believe. There was no posturing or pakhand on their part in terms of the manner in which they observed Sikhi. This understandably upsets people. That's why I mentioned someone needs to have stupendous kamaii to emerge unscathed. 

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Anecdotally, it destroyed two of the most stringently devout and decent young Singhs I knew when I was a teen. These were Singhs with rehat you would not believe. There was no posturing or pakhand on their part in terms of the manner in which they observed Sikhi. This understandably upsets people. That's why I mentioned someone needs to have stupendous kamaii to emerge unscathed. 

can you please explain in more detail. 

What kind of black magic are we talking about ? I mean there's one from muslim "sianeh" and then from hindoo tantrik sianeh lol. I heard the ones from muslims faqirs  are stronger. 

How do you know they were being afflicted by black magic and not by something else ?

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can you please explain in more detail. 

What kind of black magic are we talking about ? I mean there's one from muslim "sianeh" and then from hindoo tantrik sianeh lol. I heard the ones from muslims faqirs  are stronger. 

How do you know they were being afflicted by black magic and not by something else ?

It's not something I enjoy talking about on a public forum. 

Sure, I have my doubts like most people: "It was depression that led to suicide" or "It was a physical illness" etc. Like with most things in our community, nobody truly understands these issues until they come knocking on the door. Until then it's an issue that's ripe for doubt, disbelief, and mockery. It doesn't bother me.  Who truly knows how such nonsense works. 

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It's not something I enjoy talking about on a public forum. 

 

No Sir , thats not what i meant. Are you saying they got some kind of terminal illness or severest kind of depression and slipped into death or very misery , and that those actions were somehow triggered by a black magic spell ?

Well IMHO , how about a daily ardas in front of SGGS to keep one's family safe. I know of one such family who does daily ardas and AFAIK they never faced issues or the issues came and quickly dissipated 

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How can this black magic be stronger than gurbani though? It isnt. 

I think this "black magic" is some kind of spiritual energy manipulation thing or something. Maybe it controls minds orrrrrr. Just do ardaas and no one will be affected.

One of the sikh net guys said that he found a woman who was trying to put a curse or some kind of black magic spell on him then he went outside did waheguru jaap/simran then all of a sudden the womans efforts backfired on her and she fell down the stairs and was injured.

Sooooo....yeah.

Plus NO mahapurakh or sant can be affected by this crap. It just CANT happen. 

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2 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

No Sir , thats not what i meant. Are you saying they got some kind of terminal illness or severest kind of depression and slipped into death or very misery , and that those actions were somehow triggered by a black magic spell ?

Well IMHO , how about a daily ardas in front of SGGS to keep one's family safe. I know of one such family who does daily ardas and AFAIK they never faced issues or the issues came and quickly dissipated 

It must be karams, then. Previously generated and earned kamai for the individual/s in question. 

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