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Amrit becomes Amrit after the punj have read 5 banis, if they did not read the punj banis then it would just be sweet water.

Please understand how powerful bani is.

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so who decided which bani should go in this Gudtka and which should not??

and I dont agree with the water in the glass thing. the thing is these are rituals, people use to put glass of water at tabai of guru Granth sahib ji, but these are seen as rituals and well people argue whats gone happen to water.

you will reep the benifits of bagtie anyway.

thing is how will one bani get rid of dukh and another wont. does this not encourage us to loose faith in bani, look at it this way. we will go threw both good times and bad times and for a sikh they should be both lived as in hukam of AKaal Purkah.

When one reads Dukhbanjani, one will automatically assume that dukh will go away, but then we are not accepting hukam.

Pull chuk maff,

Nanak Naam chardi kala terie paanai Sarbat da Paala.

Gur Fateh!

There is a very good recitation of Dukh Bhanjani Sahib available in the Gurbani Section by Bhai Ranjit Singh Bedi (do a search under his name to locate).

He explains quite clearly the practice of using water whilst reciting this path -there is nothing ritualistic about this at all, for if there is, then surely when must apply this same "beau monde reforming" logic to all things such as, the use of Water during the Amrit Sanchar, the requirement to keep one's kesh covered at ALL times, the insistence to maintain all 5 K's on

one's person at ALL times, peforming Parkarma around Guru Maharaj, waving a Chaur Sahib over Guru Maharaj and so on.

Sure, for me and you, as Sikhs many of these requirements may not "appear" to be ritualistic, but just step back, like you have for your views regarding Dukhbhanji Sahib and you'll see that the same can be applied here.

Gurbani has not condemned 'rituals' per se, but EMPTY rituals -this is worth noting, before we start to shoot our own feet. A 'ritual' is simply an externalisation of an internal aspect of devotion, or 'religious ceremony involving a series of fixed actions performed in a certain order' (Oxford Dictionary).

By this definition, just about anything can qualify as a ritual within our daily Nitnem and Maryada. Let's really understand what is being asked of us, rather than painting everything with one straight brush like the Nakli Nirankaris (who strongly claim to be anti-ritual, yet have so many!) and the old school Gulab Dasis (interestingly, the infamous Giani Ditt Singh was also of this background).

Gur Fateh!

Niranjana.

p.s. Happy New (Common) Year to all the Sangat!

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Brother, could you please the post the link for that recording.

Also is there any recording of all the continous shabads of bhagat kabir and sheikh farid?

Thanks for your help!

From what i understand, its all about faith, if u believe that ur ardaas to guru ji will be answered as they are all mighty then it will be heard. Same as if u 100% believe that ishnaan at harimandir sahib will cure you, then it will.

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