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  3. GuestSingh12345

    amzing bachans from granths etc

    can you please give a source. It's not that I don't believe it, it's that I'd love to read the whole granth
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  5. puzzled

    Natural order

    Well yh that's the thing men being heads of the house don't mean they are better it's just a role. It don't mean god sees men and women differently. Feminists have taken lead and they have only caused cultural destruction. It's clear from bani that in kalyug men will forget their role and responsibility and women will take lead which will only make it even worse.
  6. Akalifauj

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥ ਹੇ ਕਬੀਰ! ਜੇ ਲੋਕ ‘ਭਗਤਨ ਸੇਤੀ ਗੋਸਟੇ’ ਕਰ ਕੇ ਤੀਰਥ-ਜਾਤ੍ਰਾ ਵਰਤ-ਨੇਮ ਆਦਿਕ ਭੀ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ ਤੇ ਉਹ ਸ਼ਰਾਬੀ ਲੋਕ ਭੰਗ ਮੱਛੀ ਭੀ ਖਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ , Kabeer, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਕੀਏ ਤੇ ਸਭੈ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ॥੨੩੩॥ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਉਹ ਤੀਰਥ ਵਰਤ ਆਦਿਕ ਵਾਲੇ ਸਾਰੇ ਕਰਮ ਬਿਲਕੁਲ ਵਿਅਰਥ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ ।੨੩੩। - no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233|| SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI - 1377 SALOK KABEER JEE BHAGAT KABEER JI
  7. GurjantGnostic

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    Technically Bang is neither a poison, toxin, or addictive. There is a reason its called Sukh and has a place within history of Sikhia. The Guru Granth Sahib Ji says to avoid toxins, technically tea contains various poisons, if you drank enough it could kill you and its addictive. You'd have to drink a retarded amount to die, but just sayin nobody seems this triggered over cha. I'd be asking myself where this hate of bang comes from? When it was planted? Obviously wasn't there initially.
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  9. Redoptics

    Natural order

    Remember also everyone is the soul bride of Waheguru Ji
  10. Ranjeet01

    Natural order

    We are equal in the eyes of God because we are beneath him. It is looking at ants from our eyes. The problem with people is that they think that leadership is a privilege. It is not, it is a responsibility. As the head of the family you may have the authority but that always comes with accountability. They go hand in hand. In families there is a pecking order, the children first, the women next and then the men. Men are the sacrificial gender, why in cases of emergency do they say "women and children first". A woman will sacrifice her life for her children but never for her husband. A man will sacrifice for both. Women who take leadership from her husband do it because they are forced into it or because the man is not up to it and the woman becomes resentful of her husband.
  11. TigerForce1

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    I don’t see how you see this practice as a part of our ancestral history. What I chose to do independently outside of Sikhi cannot be associated with Sikhi practices. Similar as to how dietary influence is largely down to the landscape and culture of the region you belong to. The same is for narcotics which are largely taken due to cultural influence and availability to the region. Just because I eat potato chips in England this does not mean my future generations should adopt this, and somehow associate this with my religious identity. Your cultural practices can be altered, discarded and chosen but your religious practices can never change, whether that be in the 18th Century or the 21st. If you reword this with ‘medicinal, recreational drug use in the region of Punjab in the 17th-18th Century’, I would have no problem with this observation. But as soon as someone quotes ‘Puratan Sikhs and use of Marijuana’, I am not comfortable with this!
  12. shastarSingh

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    Veer ji can u please post pankitis from gursobha and prem sumarag about sukha?
  13. AjeetSingh2019

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    Unless you're going to fight enemies of panth and need help of sukha , I don't see any excuse why I should exempt you from similar judgement as of any regular drug addict. People have for long perverted religion for their goals . Nothing new here. Why not get high on naam instead
  14. dallysingh101

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    The whole point about rehit-namas and the differences between them is a whole discussion in itself, but there is evidence in Bhangu's Panth Prakash, Sainapati's Gursobha, Prem Sumarag Granth. There is also notice of this in the earliest european sources from the late 1700s. No one is telling anyone to do these things, but to whitewash your own people's history is weak. As alluded to previously, the people who did partake aren't likely to have done so for what we call 'recreational reasons' today. It may as well have been medical reasons? Given how sukha da tehl is being increasingly investigated by modern science along this very line, it isn't implausible. It may well have been a carry over from pre-existing Ayurvedic practice? Can't you people have a grown up discussion about this?
  15. Akalifauj

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    You will be hated for making sense. The poster above you will now call you the F word in punjabi. Dolly101 cannot comprehend this type of deep thought.
  16. TigerForce1

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    100 or so years from now, historical observations from the late 80’s and early 90’s armed resistance of Khalistan Guerrilla Fighters is going to be examined and debated upon. They will find some of the Guerrilla fighters used Afeem (Opium) to help them stay alert and fight fatigue during the harsh times when they were being hunted or carrying out missions. Examining this through the present we can say that by no means was ‘Afeem’ a part of their Rehit Marayada, or were they encouraged or given exemption by the Jathedar of Akal Takhat to do so. They did this because they simply chose to do so. Unless anyone can submit evidence from Sikh sources or written Hukamnama from the 18th Century that taking Bhang was part of Sikh Rehit Marayada, this is no more than an observation of ‘some Sikhs who chose to do so’.
  17. dallysingh101

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    Maybe our ancestors had an inkling of the health and psychological benefits of certain components of sukha? Look at these goray, they are now selling sukha da telh with haldhee mixed in. https://www.simply-cbd.co.uk/product/liquid-gold/
  18. dallysingh101

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    If someone acknowledges certain aspects of Sikh history that people find uncomfortable today, it doesn't mean they do these things themselves or are addicts...... Grow up.
  19. shastarSingh

    Akhi ghatta muh vich datta

    This amazing shabad was given by Guru Hargobind Sahib to Guru Har Rai Sahib.
  20. jkvlondon

    Destruction of Sikh Dharmic Itihaasic Asthaans

    SGPC team has given interview to say that there is no link between these mutts and Guru Nanak Dev ji and Aarti ! Other sikhs NGOs and individuals are fighting in courts so far 15 day stay of demolition has been given verbally but NOT ON PAPER
  21. Again sneaky destruction of itihaasic asthaans happening in India we have already lost Gurdwara Gyan Godri in Haridwar , Gurdwara Dongmar in sikkim even Gudwara Pathar sahib in Leh Ladakh unless we wake up and get active so many more could become under attack , this is a dangerous precedent.
  22. garch

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    Proof hahaha Its like saying wikipedia is proof of anything.
  23. AjeetSingh2019

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    Understanding of what and why ??
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  25. GurjantGnostic

    Proof of Sikhs taking cannabis in 1776

    Lol. You'd think you'd be more understanding.
  26. jkvlondon

    Sanskrit

    sanskrit is only used for prayer as it is considered by brahmins as the language of the gods, in fact they would not teach to anyone who was not born a brahmin . the fact that anyone of lower castes cannot hear sanskrit or read it means the brahmins had to speak in a 'lower' language for practicalities , for other castes they had to express themselves in 'manmade' languages for all their spiritual needs... Punjabi is so much richer and expressive because of this, a boli borne of the soil and the soul of Punjab
  27. Niara

    Gender of baby - Modern times

    Theres always been an uneven ratio between girls and boys amongst British Indians due to sex selective abortion. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7123753.stm
  28. puzzled

    Sanskrit

    Yh I wonder why brahmins gave up sanskrit and started speaking other regional languages. I'm all for reviving old languages as long as they don't force them onto people who don't want to learn it Punjabi has its roots in sanskrit. Early punjabi was adopted by the nath yogis and they used it to write spiritual poetry, soon after that the sufis adopted punjabi. I wonder if the punjabi poems written by the early nath yogis still exist? I know that there are some jain manuscripts written in early punjabi that are preserved.
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