kuthaman

Khalsa AId has a volunteer thing. http://www.khalsaaid.org/volunteer.html

I think its better this way. Less stress for the Sikh Community in my personal opinion.

Thanks so much and please reply asap. Thanks.

Sant Baba Nand Singh Ji did from what I heard. Validate just in case.

http://www.jakara.org/retreat/

Hi guys I am curious if any of you have any hookups on Bhangra Costumes or instruments in California. Thanks, kuthaman

Bhai Rama Singh Ji- In search of the True Guru is the best. Here is a website that gives that book and a few more inspirational books free. http://www.sikhnation.com/cmss/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=3

lol people are just meeting there for the conference. I do not think its gonna be much of a distraction. If you have issues with the Gurdwara bring it up at the meeting. do not get distracted from the issues.

There is a similar jail program run by 3HO Sikhs in the state of Arizona. There are about 200 people in Arizona jails that have chosen sikhism as their religion.

Here is the link to purchase the book for real cheap in US/Canada. http://sewastore.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=5011100

PR( PUblic Relations) is part of mantaining an identity. Sikhs are not that organized.

I have most of the information needed to refute Radhasoami and other older cults like Sant Nirankaris. Gurmit Ram Rahim and Ashutosh Maharaj would take some work. I have researched Hindu Gurus and I understand how they work very well. Information is not really hard for me to acquire. its the hosting we need. how would panthic.org apply?

Thanks admins and again sorry!

We should set up a website that warns people about Anti Sikh cults. We should include a critical history along with the issues that they have with the sikh community. It would be both in Punjabi and English. Honestly all we need is webhosting. Maybe some panthic organization could provide hosting. It would really stop people from falling into traps. It could serve as a flagship for an organization that does correct Sikhi parchar.

We should set up a website that warns people about Anti Sikh cults. We should include a critical history along with the issues that they have with the sikh community. It would be both in Punjabi and English. Honestly all we need is webhosting. Maybe some panthic organization could provide hosting. It would really stop people from falling into traps. It could serve as a flagship for an organization that does correct Sikhi parchar.

The dudes website is back up. Here is the punjabi sau sakhi http://globalsikhstudies.net/pdf/sau%20sakhi.pdf

Many scholars say they came later. British debated them and had them translated into English. Phuman Singh Soora released a book that talks about the Sakhis and tries to interpret them. I have attached an English translation link. Enjoy and let me know if you need the Punjabi version. Its a little hard to find now since the Guys website went down. Indians cannot maintain websites. lol http://www.archive.org/download/sakheebookordesc00attarich/sakheebookordesc00attarich_bw.pdf

i will work on getting more information. my cousin went and checked out the center. They are making some outrageous claims. From what I understand they have already began misleading local sangat. Quite a few Sikh families have joined.

There is a new cult starting up in Seattle Washington. The Baba claims to be a Pir, and is dressed like a Sikh. From what I have heard he does Krishna puja. He makes claims of supernatural powers, and etc. He is misleading sangat, and I want to find out whats going on. We need to face these cults head on!

http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/literature/index.php?q=f&f=%2FSikhism+Basics This files are really short and to the point about Sikhi. We use these files at University Sikh Club to teach people about the Panth.

My friends and I tried to do something to change the current situation. We started a club at our college that was based around Sikh principles. Our biggest enemies were other Sikhs, not anti-panthic forces. They(SSA) felt angry that we had gone behind there backs and registered another club. The SSA at our school had failed to reach out the community. Our club worked through the drama and is still going strong. The truth is that we have to unite and get over these stupid controversies. There are so many threats coming our way, and we are still bickering at each other. Conversions out of Sikhi are gonna increase. It is about time we get our sh(i)t together to handle our enemies. Wanna do something for Sikhi lets use this forum to start light the fire of revolution in the Panth. The old men in our panth our the Mughals of the times. They may appear Sikh, but they are no different from the monsters that tortured our brethern in the past. The success of Sikhism rests with our actions. It is about time to we come together. One thing I have noticed is that there is many like minded people in this forum. We share a passion for the welfare of the Panth. This passion is not sadly found within many local communities. Lets get this started. I leave you with the first Sermon of Guru Hargobind Singh Ji. Vangaar: The First Sermon of Guru Hargobind Sahib Guru Hargobind Sahib’s first sermon must be heard again today and applies just as much now as it did when he first gave it. Guru Arjan Dev had been brutally tortured and embraced martyrdom, becoming an example for the Panth. The Sikhs were grief-struck and felt a sense of despair. The small Panth of Guru Nanak had been targeted by the mighty power of the Mughals. Guru Hargobind Sahib, became the next Guru as per the orders of his father. In front of all the gathered Sikhs, Baba Buddha jee put the two swords of meeri and peeri on Guru Hargobind Sahib. Guru Sahib was dressed like and emperor and there was a kalgi (aigrette) on his dastaar. The Dhadis, Bhai Abdullah and Bhai Nath Mal, at the hukam of Guru Hargobind Sahib sang a vaar filled with bir ras. Then, Guru Hargobind Sahib rose and gave his first sermon to the Sikhs: “Today the offerings that are beloved to me are good weapons and good youth. If you want my happiness, then exercise your bodies, wrestle, play gatka, go into the jungles to hunt and learn to ride horses. Weakness is now a crime to the Nation that cannot be forgiven for anyone. You will take up the sword and I now wear the sword so that the swords of tyranny and oppression will stop forever. You have all come from far and wide today. The cool tranquillity has been stolen from not just your heart and my heart, but from the entire world. Our swords will not rest until we bring this oppression to an end. Make day and night one. Go into the villages and light the inferno of revolution. Tell the people that we need their youth. Only that is a good youth that sacrifices itself for the cause of the Nation. We need sacred hearts and pure minds. Enshrine “pihlW mrn kbUl” in your hearts. We fear death because we have not experienced true life. We feel worry because we have not enjoyed a taste of life. We feel fear because our destination and goal seems so far off. But if you challenge death, death will flee from you. If you learn to walk with your heads held high then worry will depart. If you are determined to walk, the destination will not be so far away. Have faith in Vahiguru and all fears will vanish. If fear has left you then even death will seem like bliss.” Guru jee continued, “Do not think that you are too few. You are all like springs. Oceans flow out of these very springs. There are hundreds of thousands of springs like you in our Nation. When you come together and flow forward, you will create a flood. A small and insignificant piece of wood, when made into a match, can light the entire jungle on fire. But you are humans! And furthermore, those humans whose heart has just now been scorched on hot iron plates [reference to shahidi of Guru Arjan Dev jee]. Addressing the poets in the Sangat, Guru Sahib said, “See, God has given you the gift of poetry. When nations are built, you are the foundations. Stop all these other untimely songs and work to bring the Nation out of this deep dark pit. Tell those stories which will make the people willing to lose their skin like they would be willing to change their clothes. Fill the people of our Nation with the spirit and fervour to be like moths so they will sacrifice themselves in the flames of our cause. Our blood has become cold. Tell us stories of Shahidi and become the furnaces that will boil our blood. Give us the passion to make the trampled Punjab and our crushed Nation rise to its feet once again.” Speaking to the Dhadis, Guru Sahib said, “Now is the time that your instruments should call out a challenge. Your notes should stir the Nation. The beat of your dhads should awaken the people and the bells on your bows should make hearts fill with the zeal of sacrifice.” We must hear Guru Sahib’s message again today and rise to the challenge. Taken from “Gur Bhari” by Pr. Satbir Singh Translated by Admin www.tapoban.org After comments like this the thought comes to my mind that what are ME and YOU doing about this... Why do we always push the load onto other's shoulders? Are we not Khaalsay capable and responsible for tending to these situations? Why are we relying on others to do OUR job? Singha You Have got me.... To many anti Sikh elements have come up.... Kala Afghana, Gurjeet (Singh Sabha), darshan singh.... we Sikhs need to act.... I want to do something for the Sikh Kaum

Pak Sikh thrashed for not converting Yudhvir Rana, TNN 29 November 2009, 12:12am IST Text Size: | <a href="http://netspiderads2.indiatimes.com/ads.dll/clickthrough?slotid=36257" target="_blank"><img src="http://netspiderads2.indiatimes.com/ads.dll/photoserv?slotid=36257" border="0" width="670" height="50" alt="Advertisement"></a> Topics: amritsar Rawalpindi Hassanabdal AMRITSAR: A Sikh advocate in Pakistan was reportedly thrashed and threatened with dire consequences recently if he did not convert to Islam, forcing his family to run for safety to a gurdwara in Hassanabdal near Rawalpindi. While the victim, Anup Singh, was yet to regain consciousness, the incident has left the Sikh community in Pakistan rattled and insecure. Talking to TOI from Islamabad, Anup’s brother, Ravinder Singh, recalled horror of November 21. ‘‘A group of at least eight men kidnapped my brother from his office and took him to Mohammad Amin’s residence, where he was stripped and photographed with Amin’s wife.’’ Undergoing treatment for fractures and severe head injuries in Holy Family Hospital, Ralwalpindi, where doctors said it might take a few months before Anup could start leading a normal life, the advocate was reportedly assaulted for fighting a separation case for Amin’s wife, Safina Kanwal. ‘‘The goons made my brother sign on a blank paper, after which they cut his hair, beard, moustaches and threatened him to convert to Islam if he wanted to live in Pakistan.’’ Source:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/sunday-toi/special-report/Pak-Sikh-thrashed-for-not-converting/articleshow/5280363.cms

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Many self styled historians and people confuse themselves with jats of haryana, UP and Rajastan with jats of punjab who became sikhs later on . While jats of hindi belt were by caste jats but the jats of punjab means farmer further jats of punjab were most opressed before the birth of sikhism. During medival period hindi belt jats consisdered jats of punjab as outcastes and were sworn enemies of khalsa althogh few of them became sikhs. Cool I was about to post article to ask about it. Its all confusing and all.

excellent post. I like the way you exposed that lying in islam is permissible (under three circumstances: to stop a woman arguing with her hisband(!), to save their own lives (!) and to bring another into the fold of islam(!!!)..... Many muslims have confirmed this, while other argue the satanic verses, i mean the koran says "there is no compulsion in religion".... all their hadiths contradict eachother thats why muslims scholars say "find a hadith that supports most your views and follow that one"...their religion is full of contradictions, it is not the way foward in the physical world, or the speritual world. Muslims also claim all the technology and science in the world today comes from them. Most of the significant technological and scientific discoveries have been made in recent centries by non muslims. islam is a faith from the Medieval ages. the philosophy of the muslim cult is "if you do not accept islam you will burn in hell for eternity". Sikhi is a fiath of universal tolerance and equality. We do not believe Sachkhand is restricted to only SIkhs. On the subject of sachkhand... we believe that in the end we Merge with the Lord Almighty. They believe heaven has naked virgins, male servents, seedless fruits (lol) rivers of wine and rivers of honey. Does this not sound like a drunken orgy?! Also muslims men do not wear gold or silk because they believe they recieve these boons in heaven. to call this idology a joke is an understatment. many issues in islam come down to lust: women covering up, why women driving is prohibated in islam(!), a man having 4 wives, why women can not pray with men, circumsision, femal genetal mutalation (muslims are divided [as always] on weather this is a cultural or religious issue), etc etc the list is endless. In sikhi the focus is on equality and every sikh, man or woman should defeat lust with humility, naam, seva and simran. lust should not be accomadated by marriage. In sikhi marriage is a very sacred thing. I dont know why non muslim women marry muslim men when so many of them end up subliminally oppressed which is concealed by a false love relationship, or they are devorced (using the method described above) or they end up sharing their husband with 3 other women. It does not matter how many times muslims try to promote these sinfull acts as good, it just doesnt wash. There is no equality on islam. Why on earth is it that in islamb a woman needs 4 male witnesses to say she has been raped??!! What is she suppose to do? carry them in her handbag? this sends out a very devious message to the muslim masses. the problem isnt with wa'habi islam, the problem isnt with a small amount of muslim extremeists, the problem isnt with muslim terrorism... the problem is with todays islam. Only a loopy and backward community would hold a paedophile in such a high regard. Its an insult to Satguru Ji to say the koran is a revelation of His...There are a number of issues wrong with the lifestyle of mohammed: a 50yr old man marrying a 6 year old but having sex with her when she was 9 because she had her period at that age... where is the modesty here? If mohammed needed to care for her so badly he should have accepted her has his daughter!. The teachings of the medieval book the koran, and the lifestyle of mohammed has no relevance to society today. they still have the medieval mentality of conquering the world through any means necessary. Message of our Satguru Ji's and Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj is jugo jug atal... true throughout all time. i know ive gone off topic.... but my fingers just wouldnt stop typing. in summary, sikhi is the only faith made serving humanity, protecting humanity, tolerance, freedom and equality such central components of the faith. DVDs are a good idea, but a faster way to propagate would be through youtube. We could use facebook advertising to get the message out.