Singh_Shiromani

What has he got to do with Gurmat? How did he benefit the Sikh Nation? Ok its bad that he died in an accident but this person has done nothing for GurSikhi. I dont think there is a need to make a mountain out of a mole hole, speak about things affecting Gurmat or Sikhism not things that affect the music industry. This is Sikh Sangat not your local pub or club, things like these need to be discussed on bhangra message boards.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! Panj Kakaar: 1. Kesh From your head down to your toes all hair is to be kept intact. "…complete form is with turban donned." (SGGSJ Ang 1084) For the respect of your hair, two turbans are to be tied, tying each layer one at a time. There should be a small turban tied underneath and a larger one tied above this. Women must not plait their hair and should keep their hair tied in a bun. If possible, in order to respect your Kesh then a small turban should be tied. Keski is not a kakkar (one of the five K's). "Listen to this command oh beloved, this is the essential pre-requisite to attain my darshan. Without arms and kesh I will not give you darshan." God also revealed himself as Kesdhari (when God gave Darshan/revealed himself to Sahib Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji he did so in the form of a human with his hair intact), as does the following line narrate: "Your nose is so graceful, and Your hair is so long." (SGGSJ Ang 567) "He does not need to eat; His Hair is Wondrous and Beautiful; He is free of hate." (SGGSJ Ang 98) 2. Kangha In order to keep the kesh clean a wooden kangha( Sikh Comb ) is to be kept in the hair. According to scientific research keeping a wooden kangha in your hair reduces the level of static energy building up. A metal or ivory comb is not to be used as a substitute. "Comb the hair twice a day, covering it with turban that is to be tied from fresh (ie. no folds already put in it). Teeth cleansed with a daatan daily (brushed if this is not possible) - thus ill health will be avoided Lal ji." (Tankhanama Bhai Nand Lal ji, p.57) To keep the hair clean it must be combed twice daily. In the morning and evening after combing your hair a turban is to be tied. It is to be tied a layer at a time, and it is to be removed in the same manner, taking it off a layer at a time. Starch and pins are not to be added to the turban, which would make it look like a hat. "Being a Sikh he/she who wears a hat they will enter into seven diseased lifeforms."(Rehatnama Bhai Prehlad Singh ji, p.65) If your kangha becomes damaged in anyway it should be replaced immediately. The kangha is placed on the head the highest point of the body and thus becomes supreme. In the same way the Khalsa is to become supreme by removing ego and being humble. Just as the kangha removes broken hairs and cleans the hair physically, it is also spiritually questioning the individual as to how many good and bad deeds have been committed during the day. Just as clean hair is attached to your head so are your good deeds. Similarly, as broken hairs are removed by your kangha, your vices should be removed in the same way. The hairs removed by the kangha are not to be thrown in a dirty place or on the floor. They are to be kept in a clean and dry place/container and when enough hair has gathered they are to be burnt. Women and children are to tie a string to their kangha so that it can easily be tied to their hair, and to stop it from falling. At home two to four spare kanghas are to be kept. 3. Kara The Kara must be of Sarab Loh (pure iron). The Khalsa is not to wear a kara that is made of gold, silver, brass, copper or one that has grooves in it. Only the Sarab Loh Kara is acceptable to Guru Ji. The Kara is a handcuff placed by the Guru upon the individual to remind us of our duty to God, stopping us from committing sins. The Kara acts as protection if someone goes to strike you with a sword on your wrist. According to scientific research, the Kara adds to the iron levels in the body by rubbing on the skin. The Kara teaches us that these arms belong to Sahib Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji - with which we are not to steal, con, commit forgery, oppress, bully, persecute, sin or murder. Gambling and playing cards and gambling are not permitted. With these hands we should earn an honest living and share its benefits. In addition, your hands should serve your community and the Khalsa nation. The Kara is a precious gift bestowed upon us for life by Guru Sahib, which cannot be separated from the body. The Kara is circular, having no beginning and no end. Similarly, Vaheguru has no beginning or end and the Kara reminds us of this. 4. Kirpan "The mark of a Khalsa is one who holds a Kirpan in hand, by doing this tens of million of sins are abolished." (Sri Dasam Granth Ang 42) The Kirpan is there to protect the poor and for self-defence. With patience and mercy, the Kirpan is to be used as a sword in order to destroy oppression. The Kirpan is to always be in a gatra and never to be removed from the body. The Kirpan protects us from hidden and seen enemies. The Kirpan is a weapon to protect the whole body, as a minimum it should be nine inches in length. Keeping the Kirpan in a Kangha, in the Kesh and putting it on a string around the neck like a Janeoo, are against the Rehat and forbidden. "Those who never depart his/her arms, they are the Khalsa with excellent rehats." (Rehatnama Bhai Desa Singh ji, p.148) You are never to walk over your Kirpan or other weapons. When washing your Kesh, the Kangha is to be tied to your Kirpan and the Kirpan tied around your waist. When bathing, your Kirpan is to be tied around your head and not tucked into the Kashara as this dishonours your Kirpan and is therefore forbidden. When women bathe they are to tie their dupata on their head and then their Kirpan. When going to sleep your Kirpan is not to be removed from your body. The Kirpan is only to be used for two things. Firstly, to give Guru Ji's blessing to freshly prepared Karah Prasad or for langar. Secondly, in order to destroy tyrants and oppressors. It must never be used for anything. If the Kangha, Kara or Kirpan are separated from your body, it is forbidden to eat or drink until they are replaced. Upon the replacement of your missing Kakkar, an Ardas must be performed for the loss and beg for forgiveness. The Ardas may be performed either in a Gurdwara or the place where you are replacing your Kakkar. Having done this, you may eat and drink. 5. Kashera "The sign of true chastity is the Kashera, you must wear this and hold weapons in hand." (Bhai Gurdas ji, //. 41, pauri 15) The Kashera is the sign of sexual restraint. The Kashera and Kirpan are never to be separated from the body. "The Kashera and Kirpan are never to leave the body."(Rehatnama Bhai Desa Singh ji p.147) You are only to wear Rev Kashera (a traditional style Kashera). The Kashera gives us the teaching, "Men should look at the opposite sex as mothers, sisters and daughters, (women should look at the opposite sex as fathers, brothers and sons)." (//. 29, Pauri 11, Bhai Gurdas ji) The Kashera is never to leave your body i.e. stepping out of it with both your legs. After doing Ishnaan, one half of the wet Kashera is to be removed from one leg and a dry clean Kashera is to be put on that leg, and similarly for the other leg. If the Kashera does leave the body by accident, then you are to approach "Five Singhs" who will do Ardas for you and give you a punishment. If the Kangha, Kirpan and Kara leave the body you can do an Ardas yourself, but if the Kashera leaves the body only "Five Singhs" can do the Ardas. The Kashera is never to be changed whilst your head is uncovered. These are the Panj Kakaar. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!

What about the bibian? they make more noise that the kids do. But i think they forget in who's Darbaar they are sitting in, Satguru Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Parkaash is straight infront! Would we all behave the same way if Dashmesh Patshah Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj were present on their throne in Beer Asan Roop?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! Khalsa Jio, i clicked on the link and this film started, on there "Sikh" women were giving their views on "Sikh" Men, these days these programmes have become more of a blind date! Is this Gurmat? We need to join our daughters & sisters with Guru Granth Panth, not with ourselves, Sikhism is not a dating agency, watching this film, I did not see one word of Gurmat come out of any of them Bibian's mouths. Isit really the elders to blame for youth drifting away from GurSikhi? Or isit us the youth ourselves to blame? What we are doing is trying to change Sikhi to being more westernised to suit us, but not changing ourselves to become good Sikhs. Its the "NEW WAVE" not to have a Dastaar, not to have a Beard, not to have ANYTHING to do with Guru Granth Panth, who is to blame? If a bollywood film runs on all night, were fine with it, but if the Ragi Sahibaan take an extra 15 minutes doing Sri Asa Ji Di Vaar da Kirtan we all start complaining? How much Gurmat is there? Daas really thinks that programmes like these really need to get back to basics, WHO ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING? But no, we are such selfish people, after all Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj did for our Shaan, is this how we repay him? Were all to blame, we need to get into schools, colleges and universities to do Gurmat Veechar and Gurmat Parchaar, not just run a dating agency in the name of Sikhi. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!

I would really request Sadh Sangat to pass a resolution in our Panth against RADHA SOAMI, NIRANKARI, DARSHAN DASSIA, NAAMDHARI'S, SACHA SAUDA WALA, DHAGGE TAVEETAN WALA, DEHDHARI, PAKHANDI GURUS, and BAN all dealings with them! NO ROTI BETI DI SANJH

Sadh Sangat Jio, this person manchester sikhi, is defo a radha soami, and hasnt replied if to the post i put up, so its probably true their "Guru" spits in their mouth!! NASTY!!! Sadh Sangat Jio, I appeal in Sri Sadh Sangat's feet to please beware of these "dambi pakhandi dehdhari guru's" whom ONLY have ONE mission to take Sikhs away from Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj and join them with themselves and preach their BAKWAAS, as i have said about the Father / child thing, whos sons and daughters are we? lets stick to our Father Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj and not make Chacha's our Bapoo Ji's. Beware of these Khalsa Ji, they will try anything to try and embrace us into their dirty sect, but we will ignore this and stick to Satguru Sache Patshah Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Sacha Sucha Marg of GurSikhi, Panjan Piarian Paaso Amrit Shako, Singh Sajo....

IF SANGAT AGREE ON THIS PASS A RESOLUTION HERE WITH THE SIKH SANGAT TO BOYCOTT THESE PAKHANDI'S AND BELIEVE THAT SAHIB SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI MAHARAJ IS THEIR ONLY AND TRUE GURU, PLEASE REPLY WITH A JAIKARA, BUT IF YOUR A FOLLOWER OF A RADHA SOAMI, NIRANKARI, DARSHAN DASSIA, NAAMDHARI'S, SACHA SAUDA WALA, DHAGGE TAVEETAN WALA, DEHDHARI, PAKHANDI GURU OR HAVE AND DOUBT WHAT SO EVER AGAINST GURU SAHIB, KING OF KINGS, GURU OF GURU'S SAHIB SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI MAHARAJ DO NOT REPLY, OTHERWISE SADH SANGAT LET THESE PAKHANDI'S KNOW WE ARE AWAKE, WE ARE THE SOLDIERS OF SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI MAHARAJ, IT IS OUR DUTY TO PROTECT SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI, AND THERE MUSTNT BE ANYTHING IN THE WAY OF GURU JI'S SATKAAR...... BOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NIHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL............. SAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT SRIIIIIIIIII AKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!! SABH SIKHAN KO HUKAM HAI... GURU MANIYO GRANTH...

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! radha soami's are not GurSikhs or Sikhs at ALL, they are a SECT just like nirankari's or darshan dassia's or anything else. Their mission is one: to drive Sikhs away from Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj, Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale have challanged them on many occasions. If people believe they are Sikhs where is Satguru Sache Patshah Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Parkaash at their Satsangs? Do they preach about Khanda Bata and Amrit? They give their own naam, you cannot enter their "dera" in beas wearing a Sri Sahib, as their "LEADER" is scared that some Singh Soorma might do his BHOG if he were to come! They dont answer the phone and say Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, as we are commanded by Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, but they say "radha soami" even on greeting!! So whats the Naam they give? On many occasions of debating with radha soami, Daas has asked what is the Naam you are given? they answer we cant tell our Guru Ji says if you tell you will get "KEEREH" in your mouth, but then Daas asked what about your Guru he's told thousands and he's JUBAAN hasnt got KEEREH init yet! Then a fellow Singh told Daas that this is all PAKHAND their Guru asks do you want naam? they say yes, he says come here then, open your mouth, and he SPITS in their mouth, NOW what are they supposed to tell that their Guru SPAT in their mouths? and this is the Naam? Even though Bani say "Aap Japee... Avree Naam Japavee..." what planet are these radha soami's on? They dont do Satguru Sache Patshah Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Parkaash at their Dera because they know, that people will start bowing down to Guru Sahib, and not them!!! Remember if a child does not call his Father (Eg. Guru Granth Sahib Ji) their Father, but goes and calls somebody else their Father (Eg. radha soami's) then you know what people call that child.... B*S*A*D << dont be one of those come under the fold of GURU GRANTH PANTH, AMRIT SHAKO SINGH SAJO, look at the Kurbanian Sahib E Kamal Sahib Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji did for you!! So beware of these Pakhandi's they are not Sikhs and DON'T MARRY YOUR SON'S OR DAUGHTERS, BROTHERS OR SISTERS INTO THEIR FAMILIES, i'm sure 5 PIARE can back me up on this case to prevent this DISEASE of radha soamis spreading even more! REHE NA PAKHAND DI BIMAARI.... TAINU POOJE DUNIYAAA SAARI.... GURU GRANTH SAHIB TERI JAI HOVE!!! Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!

The same should be with darshan dassia's as it is with nirankari's a Hukamnama should be issued to stop Sikhs dealing with people whom claim to be Sikhs but do not believe in Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj...... BUT, some so called "Sikhs" who have hikacked a Gurdwara Sahib, are extemly fond of this store.... if you check the invoices (which is highly unlikely that they will let you see), you will find that from the last 6 years this is the only electrics store Smethwick Gurdwara buys from!! not surprising though! We Parnaam Singh Soorme, Bhai Sahib Bhai Rajinder Singh Ji, Bhai Sahib Bhai Manjit Singh Ji whom sent the dusht darshan daas on his way!

No, i never meant Damdami Taksal, i meant Taksal's as in general, sorry about the misunderstanding. I also meant need a Jathedar more like Shaheed Singh Sahib Bhai Gurdev Singh Ji Khalsa "Kaonke" or Shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa "Manochahal". Who stood for Khalistan. And about 108 Sant Brahamgiani i have never mentioned this, no Sant is higher than the other a Sant is a Sant end of story.

I hope Sant Baba Harnaam Singh Ji Khalsa come out to do Gurmat Parchaar

Dhan Dhan Guru Sahibaan... Dhan Dhan Guru Ji Di Sikhi... Dhan Dhan Guru Panth De Soorme... Waheguru, Imagine being there and listening to this statement, reading this has brought tears to Daas's eyes, Soorme like Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh Ji, Shaheed Bhai Biant Singh Ji the incarnations of Bhai Sukha Singh Ji, Bhai Mehtaab Singh Ji, the Soorme, who put the Dastaar back on our head, we will always Parnaam those Singh Soorme, who gave up EVERYTHING for Guru Sahib and Gur Sikhi they are blessed souls. And whom with their actions directed told us to continue the movement to establish Khalistan. Where will we ever find those Singh Soorme? Who lived up to what Sahibzada Baba Ajit Singh Ji, Sahibzada Baba Jujaar Singh Ji, Sahibzada Baba Zorawaar Singh Ji, Sahibzada Baba Fateh Singh Ji had tought us! Speaking to some Singhs they thourght Sikhs had lost and there was no hope left, but would Guru Sahib Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj let his Panth down??? Guru Sahib then sent 2 Singh Soorme to do this seva of finishing off the evil witch indira ghandi. We Remember those Soorme who will have Niwaas in their Father's Sahib Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj's Charan. Singh Soorme Nazar Nahi Ayee.................... Piche Reh Gaye Dhoor Udh Di....... I hope KP GILL and co, have already organised a funeral for themselves as who knows who Maharaj Ji is going to grant the seva of sending these DUSHTS on their way.... Bhai Satwant Singh Ji AMAR REHANGE..... Shaheed Bhai Biant Singh Ji AMAR REHANGE..... Shaheed Bhai Kehar Singh Ji AMAR REHANGE..... Maybe they are not here with us in human form, but their NOOR burns in EVERY Sikhs heart!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! This is totally wrong, the amendments they are doing to the Rehit Maryada, but SGPC and political leaders like Parkash Badal will amend the Maryada to how they please. This is why Taksals, Samparda's and Panthic Jathebandi's are not ALL accepting it. Under no cost will we accept thoses sects who do not accept Satguru Sache Patshah Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj as there Guru Sahib. SGPC are not carrying out the tasks they should be doing, and Sri Akal Takhat Sahib and its Jathedar should be AZAAD not under the SGPC or Badal group. The SGPC definatly need to start doing something about Pakhandi Dera's of ashutosh, bhaniarawala, radha soami's, sache sauda wala, darshan dassia's etc etc... Sri Akal Takhat Sahib Ji is SUPREME but not its Jathedar, We Truly Stand with Sri Akal Takhat Sahib, but not Sri Akal Takhat Sahib's Jathedar, the Jathedar's in the last few years have had no stand whatsoever, even on Khalistan they are totally scared of the word! The Nanakshahi calendar, who made it? was it discussed with the Khalsa Panth? Who was consulted? is this the same Akal Takhat Sahib Jathedar issuing the Nanakshahi Calendar who turns a blind eye to Khalistan? and Shaheed Families? We believe there should be a Sikh Calendar, 100% but before it is issued it must be discussed with the Panth, changes like moving a date from the 4th of June to the 16th? Some moves like this have been created, so that when Sikh Sangats go to pay homage to Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj's Shaheedi, it was on the 4th, and with that there would be an image that on this same day the indian government sent in the indian army to attack Sri Darbar Sahib and destroy Sri Akal Takhat Sahib, and that same image of the 6th June 1984 how innocent Sikh Sangat like themselves were killed, raped, and the Sri Harmandir Sahib itself peppered with bullets. Beware of this moves by the indian government, remember dont trust SGPC or BADAL or Sri Akal Takhat Sahib's Sarkari Jathedar!! Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!

Admin look at the language this person is using, no matter what this is a Sikh Forum, and this topic room is saint & soldiers and Sikh politics. Daas does not understand this hankaari person has so much hatered towards truth. They have an image like us, but do things that our enemies would. Yet some people have no seva whatsoever within the Panth, no jorhian di seva, langar di seva, sangat de jhoote bande, but they use the internet, not to do Gurmat Veechar but to do "TEENA TIPNI" on the truth, weather it be on Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji or Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Bani Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, Rehit Maraya Etc etc. But if you look at the post made by posh da poshy no Gurmat, not Sikhi, Just BAKWAAS! and i do request that Sangat pay attention that this is the same person whom had the username of "Posh Jatti" or something at an earlier stage, which totally goes against GurSikhi.

corrupt pawar is the vice president of the committee, and its Guru Nanak Gurdwara Smethwick Birmingham (UK)

Satguru Greeban Niwaz Sache Patshah Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Ji De Charana Da Dhiyaan Dhar Ke.... Sari Sangat Gaj Ke Balao... Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! "THE POWAR SCANDALS" Guru Piare Khalsa Jio, on the previous posts you have heard from this person, he has tried to cover up the vice president of smethwick Gurdwara's (ravinder powar) story on being anti - Khalistan for which HOW MANY SIKHS DIED TO ESTABLISH KHALISTAN?? EVEN THOUGH THE CONSTITUTION STATES AGAIN AND AGAIN.... In paragraph 5 the constitution states you must make every kind of effort, including physical, mental and financial, for the establishment of Khalistan, but this vice president issued statements in des pardes from india, stating he has finished off "GARAM KHIYALI'S" and "KHALISTAN'S" even though he took oath to work to establish it!! BUT EVEN THE MAHA PAPPI GANGU BRAHMIN NEVER TOOK OATH ON ANY OF THE GURU SAHIBAAN'S AND THIS POWAR BRAHMIN, WHAT PAPPI CLASS WOULD YOU PUT HIM INTO??? OH AND AS I SAID NUMBEROUS TIMES........ WHEN IS RAVINDER POWAR GOING TO SHOW THE SANGAT HIS ACCOUNTS DETAILS WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT?? AND HAVE THEM AUDITED? ITS BEEN A VERY LONG TIME!! STRANGLY ENOUGH, WHEN DAAS POSTED THIS ON SIKH SANGAT SUDDENLY NEW MEMBERS POPPED UP WITH THE SAME STORY SHERGILL THIS, SHERGILL THAT? BUT WHERE HAVE THESE PEOPLE BEEN SLEEPING? NOW THAT DAAS HAS REVEALED THE TRUTH ON POWAR, THIS MOORAKH SENT HIS CHELE OUT TO PUT STATEMENTS HERE ABOUT SHERGILL, SO THAT POWAR STAYS OUT OF THE LIMELIGHT!! Sadh Sangat Jio, look with how much HANKAAR this person writes, Daas has made further investiagtions into this paper, but this paper is not even REGISTERED!! But what is strange to see, is that when powar issues his ANTI - KHALISTAN statements its FINE, but when a person has PERSONAL family problems he brings it out? Again, i have asked "ANOTHER SIKH" in his previous posts to provide names of people AS HE HAS STATED, but has failed to do so... Khalsa Ji, i have been a member here at Sikh Sangat for quite some time, BUT ANOTHER STRANGE THING IS THAT THIS MOORAKH BECAME MEMBER WHEN THE "POWAR SCANDALS" STARTED! Sadh Sangat Jio, i have provided many posts with PROOF of the constitution of GURU NANAK GURDWARA SMETHWICK, and the main post i provided the page, DATE ISSUE NUMBER ETC ETC of des pardes. Its ok the GANGU BRAHMIN POWAR breaks the constitution AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN (as provided by Daas in other posts) So my appeal to the Sadh Sangat, do not be led astray by this clowns posts, as he did with the so called "invitation to india's independance day for shergill" it was all BAKWAAS! And i think the Sangat's ears have started hurting after hearing so much of his rubbish, so Khalsa Ji, the proof was provided how SIKH QAUM'S GADAAR RAVINDER POWAR betrayed Sikhs by issuing statement to make india's government happy. So Khalsa Ji, my final appeal to the Mod's and Admin is to block this person's bakwaas. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! p.s. 1. To promote Sikh philosophy and the Sikh way of life 2. To promote and preserve the Sikh heritage and culture 3. To speak out against Human Rights violations 4. To act as a voice of the oppressed Sikhs of India 5. To peacefully work towards establishing an independent homeland for the Sikhs YOUR THE ONLY/FIRST/LAST PERSON TO SPEAK AGAINST WHICH SHOULD BE MAYBE EVERY SIKH'S OBJECTIVES and you know why you did that? BECAUSE ITS THIS DAMN AGENDA/OBJECTIVE THAT GIVES YOU and YOUR FAMILY THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT DIORREAH!!!! BOLEEEEE SOOOOOO NIHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLL!!! SAAAAAAAAAAATT SRIIIIIIIIII AKAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL!!! KHALISTAN ZINDABAAD!! KHALISTAN ZINDABAAD!! LONGLIVE KHALISTAN!!! LONGLIVE KHALISTAN!!! NA HINDI... NA HINDUSTAN.... LAI KE RAHANGE KHALISTAN!!!!!! LONGLIVE THE MOVEMENT! LONGLIVE KHALISTAN!!!! RAAJ KAREGA KHALSA!!! DEGH TEGH FATEH!!! PANTH KI JEET!!!! JHOOL TE NISHAAN RAHE .. PANTH MAHARAJ KE....!!! “Bhindranwale Sant Sipahi Jinay Sutee Kaum Jaigaiee!” (Bhindranwale the Saint Soldier who woke up a sleeping nation). I'm the way I am, & i'm going to stay this way, i want to achieve justice in my life now u decide what u want, I already have.... Boleee Soo Nihaaaaaaaaaaal!!! Sattttt Sri Akaaal!!!!!!

Khalsa Jio, your post is defo correct, but the truth is that a post was posted here by daas, about a statement given by a corrupt Sikh "leader" who once claimed to be Khalistani, but then VOWED he had finished the Sikh Movement and "garam khilai's" from Smethwick Gurdwara Sahib.... BUT from the SAME Gurdwara Sahib there is a constitution (Vidaan), which was made by Guru Nanak Gurdwara's Sadh Sangat and Passed in Guru Maharaj's Hazoori, now, before becoming ANY committee member at ANY position WHAT-SO-EVER you have to take OATH in Guru Maharaj's Hazoori that you will give mind, money and soul to Khalistan, NOW if these people dont want to give those to the establishment of KHALISTAN then why take a FAKE OATH IN GURU SAHIB'S AND SRI SADH SANGATS HAZOORI??? even the PAPPI GANGU BRAHMIN NEVER TOOK OATH on SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI MAHARAJ!!!! Then what should you class these people under???????

Nice song, but they defo wouldnt let a Dhadi Jatha sing it on stage!!! Cuz if the Dhadi's were to, the person(s) its about would have their remaining weeks at Smethwick Gurdwara and they would try their utmost effort to have them sent back to india! and this posh the poshy, as baindy_bains said shouldnt be taken seriously, lol the user name before used to be something like posh jatti or something, using castes even though our Guru Sahibaans condemned and banished castes, we still have a minority who will big themselves up whichever caste they are even though they class themselves as Sikhs.These are the basics and we as Sikhs need to pay attention. what doesnt disgust you? your post which are linked to me, your always "disgusted", especially if its linked to Smethwick Gurdwara but your never disgusted at he dirty dealing people imaged as Sikhs do. Taking Oath On Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj that they will put their mind, money and soul into establishing Khalistan, but then issuing statements against the constitution made by the Sikh Sangat of Smethwick Gurdwara? NOPE THAT ISN'T DISGUISTING IS IT??? nope, nor is our sisters, mothers whom were gang raped in delhi and other area's in and around other areas in 1984, our Sikh brothers whom were killed, your, my fathers turbans were rolling about in police stations, as in Sant Bhindranwales speeches, when daughters were made naked, and their fathers made to lay on them!!! and now Sikh brothers linguishing in jails with the dream of Khalistan! THEY ARE NOT DISGUISTING ARE THEY???? ISNT THAT A NEED FOR KHALISTAN? But if a moorakh issues statements against Khalistan, but proves he is a government of india agent THATS TOTALLY OK ISN'T IT?

i'll answer that, cuz ravinder kp gill powar (the vice president of guru nanak gurdwara) hasnt told him what to write yet!! were you trying to publish a newspaper or something?

Hanji thats correct it does say something about shergill, not only in this one, but i think in the 2nd or 3rd one, when rulda came to the uk to Guru Nanak Gurdwara Smethwick, shergill was president of the Gurdwara committee 2003-2005, and "khalistani" leaders / rulda wanted a meeting called, along with other "leaders" to discuss Sikh matters. I'm sure if you contact rulda through www.panthic.org he can provide you with what exactly was said / done by shergill.

Here we go, again, i would like to ask when have i EVER stated myself higher than Satguru Sache Patshah Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj? Sadh Sangat forgive me, everytime i have started a topic i have always moved Sadh Sangat's "dhiyaan" towards Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj first before starting the topic, i have never classed myself higher, maybe your tryin to portray me in that situation so that Sangat turn against me. But let me tell you something, if you think you can do ANYTHING against the wishes of Guru Maharaj, your mistaken. Daas is the dust off the Sangat's feet, daas is the charan sevak of the Sadh Sangat. I'm sure i do not have to justify myself to you, my Guru Ji and Guru's Roop Sri Sadh Sangat Sahib is whom i have to justify myself yo. Guru Sahib and Guru Sahib's Sadh Sangat is supreme. Now moving on to this joke of your so called "invitation" LOL 1) So you have links to the indian high commission, which has helped you obtain this letter headed paper 2) The name of the invitee is written by hand, which could have been to you, edited by computer and then another name written on 3) Tomorrow you could also change it to Singh_shiromani and say i was invited too LOL 4) Wheres the info/NAMES you were going to provide on your previous posts? 5) You can blatently tell how the dark shades are around the top of the invitation you have provided 6) I told you on the day take pictures!! WHICH WOULD BE PROOF See, i raised a topic in the Sadh Sangat's court, to move the Sangat's "dhiyaan" off that, you started these, which werent there before i started the other topic, so now who's hiding what and trying to protect who? I seriously think you have little knowledge on anything, yet your trying to frame people who have been serving the Sikh Sangat for over 25 years! STRANGE HOW YOU HAVE ACCESS TO INDIAN CONSULATE'S PAPERWORK?? thats just stupid of you, "gangster of Sikhi" as i said before this shows how narrow minded and childish you are, "Sikhi" isnt a game, nor a film or your prostitute, where you may be a gangster, for this Sikhi millions have laid down their lives, so that Sikhs today can live with their heads up high without fear, you may have a house built on foundations of bricks, cement, water and mud, but Gurmukha this Sikhi's foundations have been laid on the Bones, Blood and Minjh of Sikh Shaheeds, this is what has happened to lay the foundations of Sikhi, so dont see it so cheap! "GANGSTER" how could you even think of using that word? Oh and another thing, seeing your posts and the letter heads you have collected shows your an agent of this high commisioner of india, let him know that in a "diva" oil or ghee is burnt as fuel, a storm comes blows it out, in Sikhi's "diva" the Blood of Sikh Shaheeds has been and is being burnt, no storm will EVER blow it out!

i know DEFO that a few from the top list are involved in "hera feri" anyways where do these grants go? ONE NAME HAS DEFINATLY BEEN MENTIONED IN A POST ON SIKH SANGAT'S POLITICAL SECTION!!

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=16355 the guy mentioned in the above link is the same as sohi and sohi is the same as him, both totally have an image of sumat else, yet their actions portray sumat else, look like sikhs, eat like sikhs, yet cut at the roots of Sikhi too. once these two are removed from their positions at the gurdwara's they have taken over, it will defo be a bright future!

Oh big deal people, what are we fighting over? were supposed to be fighting for FREEDOM!!! were supposed to be fighting for KHALISTAN!!!! Piare Khalsa Jio, we have been infiltrated by agents of the indian government whom are taking over our Gurdwara Sahib's and our Sikh Jathebandian, Khalsa Jio, we are not killers of innocent people, we are not enimies of hindu's, but when and where is needed we will lift the sword against the tyrants whom want Sikhs to live as slaves. We do not realise how these "infiltraters" look like Sikhs, do parchaar of Sikhi, eat on Sikhi's name, yet cut the roots of Sikhi too. Khalsa Jio, are we dead? IS THE SIKH QAUM DEAD? are we all asleep? then why are we letting these people infiltrate us? then why are we letting these people take over our Gurdwara's, this is what happened to the Sikh Movement before and after 1984 we had / have too many sell out's!!!! now this issue, about the Bibi Ji in the picture whom was holding up a plaqard, with hinduism - nazi on there, Piare Khalsa ji, some people may be annoyed by this, but only a person who has had immediate family killed by indias hindu government would know, and piare khalsa ji, that immediate family is not jus of that person, but those brothers and sisters whom were killed and raped, those mothers and fathers whom were killed, hacked into pieces, burnt alive, ARE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE OUR MOTHERS AND FATHERS, OH WHAT FACE WILL WE SHOW THOSE MOTHERS WHOM AWAIT JUSTICE???? WHAT FACE WILL WE SHOW GURU KALIGIANWALE DHAN GURU GOBIND SINGH SAHIB JI? ARE WE GOOD SONS AND DAUGHTERS? THE PEOPLE WHOMS DAUGHTERS AND SISTERS WE USED TO GO SAVE ARE NOW RAPING OUR DAUGHTERS AND SISTERS!!!!??????!!!!! NAMSTANG JIO, MAYBE IF IN THE DEHLI 1984 ROITS your family were killed infront of your eyes, by those same "hindu" mobs, you wouldnt have posted this contriversial issue, maybe if your own immediate family was hacked to pieces, raped, burnt alive in front of your eyes, YOU WOULDNT BLOODY POST THAT MESSAGE WITH YOUR STUPID OPINION! AND I THINK SANGAT ON THIS FORUM, SHOULD DO A VOTE IF THEY (A) WANT TO FIGHT FOR KHALISTAN OR (B) DIE FIGHTING EACH OTHER i'm the way i am, and i'm going to stay this way, i want to achieve justice in my life, now you think about it, if you want it or not...... Bolllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Nihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal!!!!! Saaaaaaaaaatttt Sriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Akaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal!!!!!!! KHALISTAN ZINDABAAAD!!!! KHALISTAN ZINDABAAD!!!!! NA HINDI.... NA HINDUSTAN..... LAI KE RAHAGE..... KHALISTAN!!!!!!!!!!!

there should be, and/or a Sant Mahapursh(s) should be called to hold a Bhaari Divaan and this event should be Nationalised if not International, speakers ETC.. should be called, not to make it controversial, but to shed light on Dhan Dhan Baba Takhur Singh Ji Khalsa's Jeevani And on its Samapati a Bhaari Amrit Sanchaar should be held