wannabe akali

How about reading panth parkash and finding out then? feel free to "try" and prove me wrong

What makes you so sure? This is an extract from the works of Bhai Rattan Singh Bhangoo from Prachin Panth Parkash Granth. Bhai Vir Singh also mentions this in Dasmesh Chamatkar. Panth Parkash is widely accepted so I dont know how you can make such a statement without a reason behind it.

Reading this made my day I love Sufi Islam! :L:

I will not reply to your points for a few simple reasons. Although some points are justified (and i would like to reply back to them), most of your points I personally see as silly. Plus, until you can post with a certain level of decency without getting worked up (and using capital letters), I will not waste my time replying. You said that Sikhs share with love yet your back-chat type comments and clear sense of immaturity in your writing shows that you leave a lot to be desired. Akaal! :waheguru:Well thank you very much brother. I appreciate that a lot

"The Gurbani you have presented is stating that we must not discard these religious scriptures without even reading through them and seeing what they say" - yet you completely contradict yourself as you clearly said in your previous post that these granths and scriptures were BANISHED! "If other religious scriptures were completely Akal Purakhs word, then Satguru ji would have not stated the above or even wrote Gurbani" - clearly you have failed to grasp my thinking and you have failed to anylyse my comments because no one at all suggested that other scriptures were completely akal purakhs word! "I'm ignore the hate comment because you clearly don't understand what is being said here" - yes run away ... "The soul is not separate from this world that does not get affected. A person becomes what he practices. The soul is directed affected by what the person practices. The soul turns false once the person continues on false paths. The soul in not eternal or untouchable" - again, you have failed to keep track of my line of thought because no one said that a person doesnt become what he practices and no one said that the soul isnt directly affected by that the person practices. The point im making is, hopefully you will see my train of thought this time, is that the soul does not have specifics. All paths do lead to the supreme being and those who manage that from other religions (even though it is far harder), will ultimately join with a sikhs soul. If other religions do not, then are you trying to tell me that Bhagat Kabir, Bhagat Ravidass and countless other non-sikh saints didnt reach Vaheguru? ... yet Maharaj saw their brahmgian and allowed them to write within Guru Granth Sahib?? ... "I know i took yout out of your comfort zone and your reacting out of anger and fustration, so take a deep breath and then reply" - understand you really did not take me out of my comfort zone and you still havent. Dont kid yourself brother. I have not acted in any way out of anger and frustration, however i could very easily point that finger at you and accuse you of the same, judging by your completely uncalled for comment on Sri Bhagauti Sahib and Guru Granth Sahibs parkash in harmandir Sahib! ...

Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. False are those that do not contemplate them. (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - Ang 1350) Clearly, Guru sahib didnt banish any scriptures. You say he banished such scriptures and religions, Yet Guru Ji many times instructs those from other religions to follow their religions properly. Its a Shame sikhs today think that Sikhi preaches hate against all other paths to the same Supreme Being. A Soul has no religion, All souls that are liberated, regardless of religion, will merge with the Same supreme being after death anyway. Yeah you say all other religions are inferior, yet Guru Nanak was pretty happy for Bhai Mardana to be muslim. You say all other religions are inferior, yet Muslims have passages within the Guru Granth Sahib. Last time i checked mate, Harmandir Sahib has 4 enterences to symbolize equality to people from all paths and walks of life. Last time i checked, Guru Granth Sahib is universal and for all of mankind. This kind of nonsense hate that you are preaching is exactly what extremist muslims preach, then you have the Taliban which try and actively inforce it. Shame on you! <br style=""> <br style="">

Akaal Here is my personal opinion There is no reason why it should be "wrong" to marry out of religion. Think about it, a marriage is a unification of two souls. Souls are a piece of god and do not have a religion, caste, creed, race or gender. Any two souls can unite. Secondly, the idea of a marriage is to unify souls and then help your partner progress spiritually. There is nothing to say that a person can not help their partner progress spiritually just because they are from a different religion. Bare in mind that dharamraja will not judge you on your religion, but your kamai, karma and spirituality as no religion is inferior to another or "bad". If you are thinking of marrying a hindu, then it may not be such a problem as usually hindus do not mind engaging in all sikh practices. If your partner asks you to engage in hindu practices, and this is something that you yourself personally do not mind, then that is fine and okay. If however you object, you may need to talk that over with your partner. The issue arises with bringing up children. You will have to decide with your partner what you will bring your children up as. That is entirely up to you and your partner and for no one else to judge. Once you have decided that, I personally see no reason as to why you cannot marry someone from a different religion. Just make it so that you do not fight with each other in later life about how to bring up children etc. I myself know plenty of couples who are from different religions and everything is fine and completely normal. This is just my opinion, I am not particularly bothered if someone disagrees as every man is his own religion and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Anyone who disagrees has that right to do so. Akaal

That does not however make everything wrong, even in the eyes of mainstream sikhs. Yes the Asht Bhuja-Dhuja was guru gobind singhs battle standard. More information can be found in Nihang Niddar Singhs book, but ov course it is up to you whether you consider it to be true or not. You can always get in contact with someone who can go to Hazur Sahib and ask directly.

you have clearly missed the point. everyone takes their shoes off before entering the darbar sahib, that is not the issue. the point im making is that you can walk into a gurdwara wearing leather shoes! obviously you take them off before entering the darbar sahib. nobodys raising their opinion on whether you should wear shoes or not in the darbar sahib! choose your words more carefully next time mate.

I seriously cannot stop laughing and some of the above comments! ... When you walk into Darbar Sahib, whats the tabla made of? .... What the Ranjit Nagara made of? ... What are puratan Shastar Miyaans made of? ... What are most small shastar handles made of?? (Animal Bone) ... What do you think was used to poison weapons?? (various goat/animal fluids) ... what is the Dilruba made of? ... What is the Sarangi made of? ... what is any puratan tanti saaj made of? .... what were shoes made out of in the old times??? ... what was some forms of armour made from??? ........ The answer is all leather! .... theres nothing wrong with wearing leather in the gurdwara or anywhere else for that matter! ... :lol:

Thanks Bhenji very thankful and really appreciated!

Gurfateh sangat ji please can someone supply me with as many quotes as possible from Adi Guru Durbar, Dasam Guru Darbar and Sarbloh Guru Durbaar that speak of naam or naam simran i urgently need these quotes for a presentation please someone help me out thanks in advance sangat ji Gurfateh ji

The 4 traditional orders are Udhasis Sewa-Panthis Nirmalas Nihangs

thats great bhenji! the classes are at the king edwards girls school in edgbaston on a sunday morning at 7.30. Theres a girls school and a boys school separate on the site. we use the girls school. its all opposite birmz uni. Bhenji, i believe first class is free so if you turn up you can speak to Bhai Harjinder Singh Lallie and he'll answer your questions about fees and whatever else you may want to ask about hope to see you soon at class

Gurfateh Bhenji its great to hear people taking interest in classical keertan http://www.gurmatsangeet.org/ you could learn from Bhai Harjinder Singh Lallie there is a beginners class as well as intermediate there are classes in birmingham which I also go to you can learn a variety of instruments from dilruba, taus, sarangi, tarshanai, israaj, sitaar etc while i was starting off i always borrowed a saaj from ustad ji so im sure you will be able to borrow a saaj no problem many other students have borrowed a saaj while they were starting off, but its best to buy a saaj as soon as possible a saaj can be bought from the website above and class information and any other information you can think of is on that website

oh hahahaha this one actually made me laugh! it doesnt matter for one! it is a low art, and im not even sure it should be considered an art at all because all the gatka akharas that seem to have fighting in it, you always find that the ustaad has done something like Aikido or street fighting and even boxing! you hand a gatka practicer any weapon and hel do the same thing to it that he would do to a soti. he twirls and twirls like a balarena and in 10 seconds hes nackered and cant go on! what kind of vidiya is that? gatka cannot be used in battle at all. gatka pentras were not ever used to fight, they were simply repeated over and over again for stamina, and even then the gatka akharas have wittled it down and dont even do that right! gatka is the most useless art ive ever come across, you might as well start thai boxing, thatll get you somewhere! and with gatka, you cannot battle anyone, let along more than one person:lol::D:P

yeah bhaji its the first top picture that they sent with my pc :D

Gurfateh ji sangat ji, i just got my amazing new computer :D.......................it came with a HDD cable and i dont have a clue what it is, what its for, or how to use/install it :S so can anyone help me out? what is a HDD cable? how do i use/install it? thanks in advance ji Gurfateh ji

o thank god some one who dose not flame... back to topic .... did guru say bigger the turban the better ?? a turban is a turban size not mattering i dont know how true this is buh i heard a sakhi once...........in the battle of chamkaur............the two younger sahibzadey wanted to fight the jang like their older brothers...............but baba jujhar singh said to baba zorawar singh............no you cannot, your too small................so in an effort to be accepted to fight.............baba zorawar singh tied a massive bunga and dhumallaa..............he still didnt fight in the jang.............but ive been told that that is where the tradition of wearing a big dhumalla comes from................... sorry if the above is a load of rubbish...............

Id just like to mention that in puratan times its said that a white hair was called a "Heera" meaning diamond u shud be proud of your white/grey hairs :D i got 1 massive one on my chin and im 14 years old :D