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i remember a couple of years back these kids that got beaten severely for speaking punjabi at school. Dont remember any turban issue though

A) I think we should get everyone we can to sign this petition because a petition with only a 100 signatures wont do any good. B) I think its about time Sikhs taught the liberal party a lesson in the next election. Their every move has been anti Sikh lately even though Sikhs overwhelmingly vote for them every time. No support during Kamal Naths Visit, The spreading of lies by Liberal MPs during the BC Nagar Kirtan, and now this should equal to no support from the Sikhs. C) Andrew Kania has been the only Liberal to support Sikhs and we as a community should support him in every way and make this a successful event in Parliament. Even if we fail to get it as a genocide recognized in Parliament, we should be there in great numbers to raise awareness and draw media attention to the issue. D) I am ashamed of all these so called Sikh Mps in parliament doing absolutely nothing for us. Malhi, Bains, Dhalla, etc have done nothing just sit down and bend over to progress their careers

****Sorry i messed up the title There no "Justice Rally" Its if you want to come to parliament to show support when the petition is being pesented. Sorry for the confusion**** Source: www.sikhactivist.net On June 9th, 2010 Member of Parliament, Andrew Kania will join Sikhs in marking a moment in history that will forever be enshrined in the Sikh struggle for justice and aspirations for Human Rights. On this day, Mr. Kania will read a motion in the House of Commons for the Government of Canada to officially recognize the genocides of November 1984 carried out in India. The Sikh Activist Network, strongly urges all (com)passionate youth to take part in this landmark moment in Sikh History, in at least one of two ways. Sign the Petition (online|pdf) to show your support for the motion that will be read by Mr. Kania Join us on June 9th as we travel to Ottawa to attend the reading of the motion in the house. The reading of the motion will be presented by Liberal MP, Andrew Kania at which point the Conservative Government will have 21 days to respond. For any YOUTH interested in attending please send the following information to info@sikhactivist.net as we make arrangements for free transportation to Ottawa. Name Phone # Email THE PETITION WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CITIZENS OF CANADA, draw the attention of the House to the following: WHEREAS, the Sikh community in Canada has been a vibrant part of the Canadian cultural mosaic since 1897; WHEREAS, the Sikh communityn Canada is amongst one of the largest religious groups within the Indo-Canadian community; WHEREAS, members of the Canadian Sikh Community have become an integral part of Canada's culture as they continue to contribute significantly to the national economy; AND WHEREAS, there was an organized campaign of Genocide against the members of the Sikh Community in India in November of 1984, resulting in the deaths of thousands of innocent Persons, we call on the Government of Canada to: 1 Recognize that an organized campaign of violence, rapes and killings took place in India in November of 1984, against the Sikh Community, resulting in the deaths of thousands. 2 Call upon the government of India to take all reasonable measures to bring all persons responsible for this organized campaign of violence to justice. This includes criminal prosecutions against the responsible persons following due process of law. 3 Formally recognize that this organized killing spree resulting in the deaths of thousands is "Genocide" as per the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

I think Baba Jaswant Singh Bhagat Ji is working on it right now. Dont know when it'll be up though. Hopefully soon!

Have you already heard Giani Thakur Singhs and Sant Gurbachan Singh Jis Katha?

Id like to have this as well

Your right Singhs. I wrote without thinking and made a mistake. Im sorry. We should fight back by presenting the truth instead of what i said.

Veer Ji i agree with what your saying about medicine but medicine is something we take out of necessity while rubicon Mango juice is not. And "GuruIshq" there is a reason Maharaj spoke against alcohol and not water. I find it ridiculous your claiming that alcohol "isnt bad for u" its the "effect" that's bad. Well if that is the case why don't we all just start drinking but in moderation? There is a reason alcohol is bujjar kureht and water isnt. Yes Amrit is not something that is so cheap that it can "break" but we all still make mistakes that we ask forgiveness for. When you go pesh it doesn't mean that your amrit "has broken" it because you've made a mistake and are asking for forgiveness. If you consume something by mistake then its ok and you should do ardas but when you consume something on purpose then you should go pesh. Let Panj make decision of whether or not what he did was ok or not and dont act like you represent Guru Panth. I find it amazing how Sikhs nowadays completely dismiss almost all levels of Bibek and reject other people opinions by calling them idiots or bamans!! Go listen to some Katha to see how even one drop of alcohol effects your jeevan and kamai

Heres a really short book that you can read in about 10 minutes that In my opinion proves Mool Mantar up to Nanal Hosee Bhe Sach. http://www.damdamitaksaal.org/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=32&catid=76

If they refuse to give a permit next year it will be political suicide for whichever party is in power in BC and for the mayor. SO in short it wont happen lol.

well you can start off talking to the committe because theres really no excuse they could have for allowing bhangra in a gurdwara. Do an ardas for strength then go present a strong Argument. This should work. Try to take some other Singh/SInghnis with you.

if you had stopped drinking when you realizsed it had alcohol then you wouldnt need to pesh but since you continued drinking peshi is necessary 100% IMO.

Shromani committe and akj read Mool MAntr up to Gurprasaad The puratan Jathas (Taksal, Nihung Singhs, Nirmalas, etc.) read up to Nanak Hosee Bhe Sach. If you want to know the opinions of both parties just search the forums

you can use sikhitothemax 2 for translations of Guru Granth Sahib, Sri Dasam Granth, etc. DL from here http://www.sikhitothemax.com/updates.htm

Why does Guruji refer to the Khalsa as the hooded cobra? I've never heard this before Because the moguls at the time used to call Sikhs snakes, etc. and the Khalsa accepted the name saying we are poisonous snakes for dhusts and tyrants. Meaning that the Khalsa is poisounous for oppressors. That's why we call our young ones "Bhujangi", etc.

AKJ is an amazing Jathebandi that does alot of seva but i have to agree with shastr some people just take this whole shaking thing a little too far. Its not like people dont feel naam rass at raag kirtan events or are just "sleepy"

yea i ordered the chaurasi 84 cd from them over 5 months ago and after several emails still didnt reveive it. Eventually i just gave up and downloaded it since i had already paid for it really.

http://gurbanisanthiya.webs.com/ This is the taksali site mentioned above. Links u straight to taksal via skype. More info on the site If you tell us where u live we may be able to direct you to someone who can give you shudh santhiya without you having to leave the country your in

After all the gand that Badal has made how is it ok for the supposed jathedar of Damdami Taksal to receive a siropa from him. Especially after he called for Badal to be kicked from the panth after the Ludhiana incident. Now he is receiving a siropa from the exact same person he said should be summoned to Akal Takhat Sahib. And another thing. After how badly Longowal/Badal/Akali Dal betrayed Sant Jarnail SIngh Ji how is it responsible for Dhumma who is supposedly in Sant Jis Place to receive a siropa from them. I used to be neutral when it came to dhumma, didnt love him or hate him but the more and more i here about him and see the things he does i realize that he is nothing but a politician disguised as Sant. He is the worst person to lead Damdami Taksal in such a crucial time for the panth. Baba Thakur Singh Ji never once took a siropa from any politician or anything thing along those lines because he was a real Sant and Brahmgyani and didnt play politics especially after how they betrayed Sant Ji and wat they were responsible for doing to Sikhs in the 80. In my opinion Dhumma is GOI and i say this because real Sikhs like Simranjeet Singh Mann who once supported Dhumma have moved away from him. These people cant be jathedars of Dasven Patshahs Taksal Baba Jis Bachan is true Sant Ji is alive

can someone please post a pic or video thanks

Heres a link to the Katha: http://g5sikhmedia.c...tiale-wale.html its the 09-12-09 one, the last one thats 77 minutes long. He starts talking about these things a little into the katha so be patient

I specifically remember him saying in the coming months "dharti kai thava te thule jani aa" He himself didnt predict the earthquakes he said certain Brahmgyanis had told him. Listen to the Katha again wat he said in the Katha did happen. After all these huge earthquakes in such a short period of time i was recently thinking about the katha myself

Something i forgot to mention: While im not sure about Shaheed Dilawar Singh you also mentioned Bhai Sukha and Bhai Jinda not being Amritdhari. Both Sukha and Jinda had to cut their kes in order to punish dushts like vadiya and were really unhappy about cutting their kes. They had to because in their Sikhi saroop it would have been really hard to punish these dushts. While in jail they both kept their hair again and had a 16-18 hour Nitnem. They were dieing to take Amrit but the dusht sarkaar of india didnt let this happen. When Baba Thakur Singh Ji met the Singhs in jail they told him about this and Baba Ji even made preperations for both Singhs to take amrit but again indian gov didnt let this happen. But Baba Ji told both Singhs not to worry as the King of Kings Guru Gobind Singh Ji would himself give them Amrit and that no sarkaar can stop someone from taking amrit. It seems to me your trying to make excuses for not taking Amrit. Before you give examples of Gursikhs who hadnt taken Amrit look at how high their avastha was and the desire they had to take Amrit though it wasnt possible. Now that i think about it Bhai Dilawar Singh was also most likely Amritdhari as he was part of the Babbar Khalsa. The Babbars were known for their strict rehit and that all recruits into the jatha were also Amritdhari and strict in their rehit also. You can confrim this by reading jeewani of and Babbar Singh/Singhni

Im going to move away from the harminder singh sandhu debate for a sec and talk about people ridiculous claims about Taksal "blackening" Baba Manochahal. Anyone whos read any book/online article, etc. on Baba Manochahal knows how close Baba Ji was to Sant Jarnail Singh and what jathebandi was Sant Ji jathedar of? Thats right it was Taksal. Now moving on To Baba Thakur Singh Ji. If you go go to 1:38 of the following video you can see Baba Ji and Baba Manochahal standing together. Both Baba Ji with Taksal and Baba Manochahal played a gigantic role in organizing the Sarbat Khalsa of 86. And yet you claim Taksal "blackened" Baba Manochahal. If they were "blackening" him why would they work so closely with him in organizing one of the biggest Sikh events of the last 100 years? And lastly regarding Sant Jis shaheedi. Sant Jarnail Singh said on numerous occasions that Baba Thakur Singh was the roop of Akal Purukh and that all Singhs should listen to whatever Baba Ji says without hesitation. He also said that if a time comes when he isnt here Baba Thakur Singh is in charge of the Taksal and we should all listen to and do whatever Baba Ji says. These bachans can be heard in this video. So we are saying Sant Ji is alive because Sant Ji said listen to Baba Thakur Singh Ji and Baba Thakur Singh ji said Sant Ji is alive and in chardi kala. So if you think about it were listening to the bachans of TWO Brahmgyanis. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh