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issue is sant ranjit singh and his gursikhs jee seems to be so insecure and going on and on and on and on and on and on about this sukhvinder singh- for crying out loud this has been the only thing on sikhsangat and sikhchannel for the last 2 days and it is getting sickening. Truth always comes out why is sant jee so worried and trying to explain at such lentghs holding 2 hour sessions just for this stupid prat sukhwinder singhs <banned word filter activated> who is obviously wrong. when you're truthful you u don't have nothing to hide therefore you don;t have to say much as time always reveals.

Three things -- 1. Buy land anywhere you like in this world - it does go up -- dharteee maaa always gives. 2. Nothing goes up for ever. 3. We are depression conditions in the west - east will follow and crash scenrio is very very likely as west will not come out of this era for coupleof decades - just look at Japan have they come out -they were the first to have issues. Punjab - there is no future for NRI's there or their kids - which is sad - best is to sell and invest abroad in teh west where at least you know it's yours and you don't need to pay someone orfeed someone for years to take care of your land as in india. Greed -- always has a bad ending - lalach is simply suicide no matter which way you look at it . Saying that I want to sell some land in the Phagwara area - any one interested plesae mail me on here .

Thanks chatanga - and apologies - i forgot to mention sant instead of Bhai -- Now tell me when have i got my knickers in the twist on Bhai Randhir Singh you beautiful word speaking Gurskih? or torouble maker or internet warrior??

I can tell with my hand on my heart if you ask any of these goons who do nindyia how much material they have read of Bhai Gurbachan Singh Jee and Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Jee the answer without a shadow of a doubt will be NIL. NIL BY HEAD OR EYES - THefreo leads to ILL talk just hear say and that is my final post here. I would love to know the poeple who are on this topic to mention how much material have they read on the two personalities - mine is minimal about 2 books on each one.

The only difference between now and then between SIKHS was PYAR and UTMOST respect no matter what the individual views were certain bania or translations of SGGS - why you may ask?????? Becuse they understood clearly that NONE AND I MEAN NOONE CAN CLAIM TO BE CORRECT APART FROM GURU SAHIB HIMSELF OR GOD HIMSELF "BHULAN ANDAR SABH KO ABHUL GURU KARTAR" - SGGS

no matter whatever your critcism ; all on this thread fail to realize - that NO HARM WHATSOEVER can be done to Sikhe the flower is too beautiful- yes indeed there is a load CHIKaR around it. Do you think those parcharks or presenters you mention realize this ? What is higher Gurbani - katha vichaar or - anti dasm parcharks or any other tom ,d1,and harry coming on the sikh channel. Just as well both sikh channels do 20-30% damage however 80% of the time Gurbani is benig aired and katha is being aired.That is enough for someone, just by listening to the basics of sikhe to take amrit and there have been people who have done JUST THAT..I reiterate Gurbani and veechaar that is being aired by both channels is plentiful ENOUGH to enlighten someone to take amrit - Don't particulalry need Babes or anyone else for that matter .This has been proven time and time again will keep on being the case.Joe average is not interested at all in debates OR dasm Granth especially someone who gets inspired by katha or keertan - all other debaters or discussion for that person is NIL.. And as a final - both channels for the point i've rasied should be supported. Till of course they cut out Gurbani/keertan/katha- WHICH i doubt they will. Now to really do your work - a list of complaints and gripes against anti dasm grant and all other dodgy people coming on air shuld be sent to both channels on a monthly basis - infact a website should be set up reporting everything that is anti on both channels.Isn't that something more constrcutive than just cutting direct debits.- Remember who is higher than everyone on the channel - DHAN SIRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JEE.

I disagree - Gurbani quotes are specfic - we are to recite as well as what you say too: "Gurbani gavoo bhaii eh safal sadaa sukhdai" "ayaoo parn sunnan ko banee" Gurbani is not vedas' or puraans, or kuraan or anywhere near those scriptiures - "Gurbani is Nirankaar" - recitiation of Gurbani is of extreme impportance as well as listening, applying in ones life.

so much criticism - guys get a grip - -Dhan SGGS is in at least 18 different languages - the challenge to each one of us how many do we know even at a basic level -- i know 3 at the minute - challange is to know at least 18 or half of 18. Anyone up for it??

I love gatka - I love the martial art aspect but this seems to be insane and cheap to show off such stunts: http://www.dailymail...d.html#comments ony consturctive thoughts please - no nung or niddar singh this and that - you can read the comments of the gora's on the site - and the first and foremost and obvious is the concern for safety of this little boy ---this should be the concern of every sikh individual too- did our Guru's promote this kind showing off ever????

sant jee hit the nail on the HEAD - EVERYTHING HE OWNS IS IN THE NAME OF SGGS - Period - that is far enough proof of strength of character. Anyone criticising here like CISCO singh - should stop - should sincerely STOP - WHY??? YOU MAY ASK?? Till you can do parchar at the level Sant jee has you or i or anyone has no authority to question or criticise.

instead of starting on laptop - one should sit down switch all computer devices off and listen to sehaj paat for 45 mins a day at a minimum - it's a better way if you no access to Sarrop of SGGS . LAPTOPS- IPHONES- all are virtual - not the real thing - the protocol of sehaj paath can never be the same - the closest is stiting down and listening to paath which is what you have to do anyway -

love his talks or not - the facts is simple and plain : This guy had 3 kids of a previous wife and he went out with another woman and married her- this is utter disgrace-utter shame - utter MAJOR DISRESPET of the SIKH rehat maryada. He should SCREAM THE ABOVE TO HIMSELF as he does to sangat of sikhe parchar.

great effort but i must say and advise not to duplicate the issue but complement it - Bhai Amardeep singh of derby does vhyikhaaa of the Darbar sahib hukhamnama every morning around 700 am'sh on the sikh channell in english - it would be agreat to complement this with his recording clips of the hukhamnam in English from the sikh channel as well as those translations.

this is indeed shocking - makes u wonder where have those funds and monies gone that were asked for by our current jathebandees for the last 20-25 years and people over seas have give those funds - where are they now- this where those funds should've gone and they didn't - this is very very appalling. I will contribute to seva84 - as well but the vital question mark remains over our leaders of all jathebandess.

so what is the soultion then guys?? we have pad ched as it is at present worldwide -- don;t forget that is not a total negative - sangatan have increased worldwide too-- and so have the number of paaths at Gurdwaras on pad ched saroop. To bring radical change we need people to be aware of lareevaar saroop -easiset is to check this app "SUNDAR GUTKA on the iphone - beautifully done as it allows you to switch to larivaar mode as you read Gurbani -- However to educate the masses we need professionals (supported by insitutions) in every gurdwara who know how to give proper santhia from larevaar saroop to bring about change -- about 100 years away i think !

why is this letter not on the normal page where all the other panjabi letters are at present? this could be to fool sikhs - watch out - all letters are supposed to be on here: http://sangharshdasach.com/home.php

JEE SIKH - SIKH NUU NAA MARE TAAA KAUM KADEE NAAA HAREE - And on this particluar thread : JEE SIKH - SIKH DEE NINDAA NA KAREE TAA KAUM CHARDEE KALA WICH RAHEEE

This thread is taking a real twist here- do you know a singh who had so much faith in Akal Purakh waheguru that he wanted the prisoners travelling in pakistan and the station master had told him the train will not stop. The singhs had done ardass to Guru sahiban and decided to sit on the track and stop the train- the train hit the lead singh and he was still alive and as others tried to comfort him he wanted LANGAR to be served to the prisoners first before being comforted. The train driver was interviewed by the national press in Pakistan and he said it was like a ROCK had hit that train and only then he put the brakes on!!! this was eye witness to my own Nana Jee. If you have faith anything is possible - 125000 - 1 was what Sahibzadas faced and I do not doubt for a minute at the speed Sahibzada Ajit singh was killing the enemy perhaps far far faster than predictions on this thread. Stop doubting - stick to the topic the main , we have the art Gatka -or SV which has the means to do the job if necessary. Guru sahiban and puraatan sikhs were beyond the physical -- in the metaphysical and beyond, we dont' need to prove it at all- it's cheap and pitiful if we 're going to take this thread on that route. Where is the chardee kala aspect?

I have to agree with HG singh Niddar is a Giddar - , his associates Parmjit Singh, Amandeep Singh madra have caued much damage in Sikh HISTORY writing the book "Sicques, Tigers, or Thieves":: Eyewitness Accounts of the Sikhs " - they had to apologize at Hazoor sahib for this check here: http://www.panthic.org/articles/4685 modern sikhs born and bread in a Country which has ruled third of world --- can't get the basics right -- what a waste.. -- Please don't say nothing against our brother REBEL Singh - since admins and he himself has apologized and will not use such language - slang or not .

Admins jeeo - my humble apologies - but I wasn't whiing or complaining - didn't mean to offend - and THANKS VERY MUCH for removing the slang rebel singh was using. Rebel singh-: sure i'm not from a £500000 pound house - me and you are from Guru sahib house which is worth more than any material house on this world - no offence bro - just keep the slang low - apologies

rebel singh you meniton: But shastar vidya, is taught/learnt to KILL! sahibzada ajit singh could make 10 hits in 1.5 secs! thats y in chamkaur he was a *removed* seems admins are sleep again - DO NOT REFER TO O SAHIBZADA AJIT SINGH AS A BAD BOY - WE DON'T NEED YOUR GORA COCONUT LANGUAGE TO DESCRIBE OUE GREAT SAHIBZADAS - *removed* Edit: We are not sleeping. Time and again we have mentioned this on the forum. WE DO NOT SIT ON THE FORUM ALL DAY READING EVERY SINGLE POST! If you have an issue, report it. It will be dealt with when one of the admins logs onto the site. Yes I found that comment of yours very insulting to the mod team who use their personal time to keep the site up and running without any compensation whatsoever. Think about that next time you decide to insult the people who are giving you a platform to whine and complain!

Wrong rebel singh -Sikhs have done more damage sikhi than india has in the last 60 years as they were the ones who bent over backwards . remmber tohra, badal, longwal -all signed the attack on darbar sahib

I would say SIKHS - as every attack on sikhism has had sikhs - especially giddars involved on the other side. we even have those giddars present in the AKJ,FEDERATION,TAKSAL IN all jathebandees and they will remain so - as we do nothing about it at all - nothing. Any leader in any orgaisation who doens't give the next generation a chance has to be liar - giddar and that is mostly what you see across jathebandess and Gurdwaras all over the world.

Carry on using beautiful language Rebel singh - may Guru sahib give everyone the prem and a beautiful tongue , and may the world bow at your feet darling

beautiful work - how cool, i have a stadning order direct to SOPW and so shud every working sikh in the world.