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  1. I dont think India will go to the extent of waging a full war with Pakistan over Kashmir. What they are doing now is they are only engaging in a war of words giving Pakistan what PakIstan has been doing for decades by verbally claiming Indian occupied Kashmir. India knows occupying Pakistani territory is not safe nor practical because it would mean bring in millions Muslims which India wants to avoid having more of. What India will try doing next is follow the Israeli model of changing the demographics on ground by establishing Hundu settlements all over Kashmir. As for their designs on the Sikhs. Its not Singh Sabha they are trying to reverse or promote Dasam Bani. On the contrary they are encouraging atheism and missionary Soch among the Sikhs. Because they know a Sikh who believes in Dasam Bani is the most dangerous kind of Sikh who is willing to fight and die for Sikhism. But the only Sikh who is not willing to kill or be killed is the missionary types who till date have not given even one Shaheedi for the Panth. It is no coincidence that after the fall of the Kharkoo movement in the mid 1990s we saw the rise of Sikh missionaries, Gurbaksh Kala Afghana and now their ultimate weapon Dhandriwala who is trying to spread atheism and disbelief among Sikhs and discard Dasam Bani. They want that Sikhs should discard the Bani of Guru Gobind Singh ji that turns us into warriors.
  2. The tactics these Christian missionaries are using is the lowest of the low. They deceive others by using their religious symbols and terminology. They wear Dastars to fool gullible people. They call their singing as Kirtan, congregation as Sangat and Bible as Bani. They are doing the same with Hindus by using their terminology like saying their singing is Bhajan, they call Jesus as Bhagwan and Mary as Devi. They have even started doing Christian Garba, Christian Bharatanatyam dance and Christian Yoga. Muslims are smart they know of these tactics which is why in Indonesia and Malaysia Christians were banned from using the term Allah so they don't fool Muslims into conversion.
  3. General Harbaksh Singh is an unsung hero. In 1965 when the Indian army was on the verge of defeat the Chief of Army Staff(a Hindu) had ordered the Indian army to retreat all the way back to river Beas. General Harbaksh Singh who was there and in command refused to follow this order of his superior because by retreating all the way back to river Beas would mean surrendering Sri Darbar Sahib and Amritsar to the Pakistanis. So the Sikhs in the Indian army fought so valiantly under General Harbaksh Singh that they turned a Pakistani victory into a defeat. Since General Harbaksh Singh turned defeat into victory he was not court marshaled for refusing to follow the orders of his superiors. Seeing his rank and war experience he should have been the Chief of Army Staff instead of Manekshaw who was a minor junior Parsi officer in comparison but was elevated to the top position due to his closeness to Indira Gandhi who wanted an obedient yes man to fill that position.
  4. I have heard that during those times the Mughals and Afghans would try to infiltrate their spies into Sikh ranks. The Singhs were aware of this. So when a Muslim expressed his desire to join the Sikhs by becoming a Sikh, the Singhs would first test him by making him eat some pork to see if he is really serious about leaving Islam. So maybe Qazi noor Muhammad thought all Sikhs are pork eaters. Another way of looking at this is pig eater is also used as a term of insult among Muslims. Qazi Noor Muhammad also called Sikhs black faced which should be seen as a term of insult rather than literally being black faced. In South Asia when someone did something shamefully wrong their faces were blackened and paraded on a donkey.
  5. In 1984 the Sikh officers were the traitors not the Sikh soldiers. The Indian government had moved Sikh soldiers far away from Punjab so they would not be able to cause trouble. In 1984 as news came of the attack thousands of common Sikh soldiers and even a few officers had mutineed and tried to find they way back to Punjab but they were ruthlessly stopped. Today those Sikh soldiers are known as Dharmi Faujis. I think a Sikh regiment was even permanently disbanded. But I agree with the rest of your post. Fact is today's nationalist Hindu does not follow the chivalrous ancient Kshatriya tradition where a warrior lived and died following a code of conduct based on Dharm. Instead today's nationalist Hindu has opted to follow the Maratha example. The Marathas did not follow any Kshatriya tradition. They were no different than the Afghans in their conduct which is why even Hindu rulers preferred the Afghans to the Marathas. Hindu nationalists like the Sikhs just as long as the Sikhs are obedient and only look after Hindu interests. Once Sikhs look after their own interests then they are regarded as disloyal traitors and separatists who must be killed mercilessly.
  6. It is good we are getting this type of hard slap of reality knocked into us. This is why we should first take care of our own. If we don't take care of our own no one else will. Neither Christians, Muslims nor Hindus will come to our aid when we need it. If we have poor Sikhs what sense does it make to leave them and spend our valuable resources on others like Khalsa Aid does. Guru Gobind Singh ji very clearly says in Baani that a Sikh's daan must first go to other GurSikhs. ਦਾਨ ਦਯੋ ਇਨਹੀ ਕੋ ਭਲੋ, ਅਰੁ ਆਨ ਕੋ ਦਾਨ ਨ ਲਾਗਤ ਨੀਕੋ।। ਆਗੈ ਫਲੈ ਇਨਹੀ ਕੋ ਦਯੋ, ਜਗ ਮੈ ਜਸੁ, ਅਉਰ ਦਯੋ ਸਭ ਫੀਕੋ।। ਭਾਵ: ਸਿਖਾਂ ਵਲੋਂ, ਸਿਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਦਾਨ ਹੀ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਚੰਗਾ ਲਗਦਾ ਹੈ, ਕਿਸੇ ਹੋਰ ਨੂੰ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਦਾਨ, ਮੈਨੂੰ ਚੰਗਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਲਗਦਾ ਅਤੇ ਗੁਰਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਕੀਤਾ ਦਾਨ ਹੀ ਅੱਗੇ ਜਾਕੇ ਪਰਲੋਕ ਵਿੱਚ ਫਲੇਗਾ; ਗੈਰ-ਸਿਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਦਿੱਤਾਂ ਦਾਨ ਨਿਹਫਲ ਹੋਵੇਗਾ। ਜੱਗ ਵਿਚ ਵੀ ਉਸ ਦਾ ਹੀ ਜੱਸ ਹੋਵੇਗਾ, ਜਿਹੜਾ ਸਿਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਦਾਨ ਕਰੇਗਾ। One should always give Daswand to Parcharaks and poor Gursikh families in India. If we don't take care of our own then these Christian vultures are always ready to soul hunt on poor Sikhs.
  7. Yeah the Balakot attack was a disaster for India and a huge boost for Pakistan's self confidence in its security forces. On top of that the way they made a video of the Indian pilot drinking tea was just embarrassing. Pakistani security forces are battle hardened with years of fighting in the harsh mountainous region of Waziristan against Pathans. Indian army hasn't had any war for over 20 years. But I don't think India and Pakistan will fight a big conventional war. The next war will be a major insurgency probably in Kashmir. Next 2 decades I think things will get pretty ugly in Kashmir. Not just that, but the gap between Hindus and Indian Muslims is also widening further and further. Hindu Muslim violence will probably spill out all over India. We Sikhs just need to sit back and mind our own business and stop acting like Hanuman all the time who gets his tail burnt for another's man's dispute.
  8. It's one thing to do something so disgraceful but instead of being ashamed of this he actually goes to the media and gets praised for this by non Sikhs. He set a wrong example and has made it harder for other Sikhs who will now be pressured likewise. And like someone says, it wasn't even an open beard. It was a tied up beard. The mask could have fit. So he really had no reason to shave it off.
  9. This is a depiction by Udasis who portray him as a naked Sadhu with dreadlocks and blue coloured skin. I personally believe Babaji wore a chola and Dastar like how he is depicted here http://i0.wp.com/csjs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Janam-Sakhi-Guru-Nanak-Nandan-Dhan-Baba-Sri-Chand-Sahib-Ji-199x3001.jpg
  10. You make a good point. But reading Giani Ditt Singh jees writing in the form of his Niti Bachans, his articles, his translation of Shabads published by Dr Inderjeet Singh Gagoani, I noted how he wrote about Sikhism to make it less complicated and more easy to understand which was best suited to tackle new opponents in the current situation. He wrote to counter not just Arya Samajis but Sakhi Sarvars, Ahmadi movement, superstition etc. The problem with Amritsar Singh Sabha was they were not willing to let go non essential baggage such as the caste system, veneration of Guru Ansh(Bedis, Sodhis, Bhallas and Trehans). Part of the Singh Sabha movement were Sant Attar Singh Mastuanewale who did massive parchar and brought lakhs of people into the fold of Sikhi. Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh ji practically started liberating the Gurdwaras when he and his Jatha liberated Gurdwara Raqab Ganj, Singh Sabha Bhasaur did a lot of Parchar in Malwa. Their rivals the Cheif Khalsa Diwan under Bhai Vir Singh Ji also did a lot of Parchar all over Punjab and brought Punjabi language to a level rivaling Hindi and Urdu in sophistication and literature. I think It was these movements collectively that gave shape and direction to the Akali movement. On PDL they have very old books dating from that time period. From that period you will find books written by Sikhs who counter Christianity, Arya Samaj. A very good book opposing the Hindi language written by Pandit Kartar Singh Dakha who proved the case of Punjabi language over Hindi.
  11. I saw this video a few months ago. I don't think he is a salafi. I think he is a mainstream Sunni also known as Barelvi. That is what most Sunnis in the Indo Pak subcontinent are. Salafis are small but growing fast due to Saudi funded madrasas opening up in Pakistan and India. The Barelvis are the ones who believe in Ghazwa Hind since many of their Peer Babas have seen visions of Islamic armies conquering Hindustan and beating Hindus in a bloody war.
  12. It has never been washed with milk. But Kachi Lassi sure has been used ever since marble was installed. And there is nothing wrong with using kachi lassi. The "feed the poor" argument doesn't apply to the Sikhs since Sikhs feed lakhs of people every day in Langar. None of these atheist communist missionaries have been able to do that much for the poor who use these arguments against the Sikhs.
  13. Arya Samaj is very strong in Haryana especially in the Urban parts. Punjabi Hindus were also very strongly influenced by Arya Samaj. That is why they always promoted Hindi over Punjabi since Dayanand Saraswati is the one who began promoting Hindi as a tool to strengthen and unify the Hindus. Muslims similarly saw Urdu in this way. That's why both Hindus and Muslims feel ashamed to speak their mother tongue Punjabi. Punjabi Hindu opposition to the Sikhs was mainly due to Arya Samaj. Had Arya Samaj not been there it is likely that all Punjabi Hindus would have become Sikhs under the influence of the Singh Sabha movement. Arya Samaj had made major inroads into Haryana during that time period. A Haryanvi guy named Sant Rampal who is a Kabir Panthi had made some very good points exposing Daya Nand Saraswati from his writing in Satyarth Prakash. This incensed the Urban Arya Samajis in Haryana so much that they got him arrested.
  14. It would be good if there could be some kind of dharmik alliance against evangelicals. But sadly Sikhs must do this on their own. The reason is as you have stated the Sikhs start which good intentions but Hindus at the same time start to subvert Sikhi behind our backs. This is what happened when Arya Samaj first came to Punjab. Sikhs who were being targeted by Christian missionaries saw Arya Samaj Hindus as a good partner for alliance against Christian preachers. At first Sikhs were accommodating Daya Nand Saraswati and his Arya Samaj movement. But when they were strong enough they began to attack Sikhism and doing Nindya of Guru Nanak Dev ji. Once a Nihang Singh was about to kill Dayanand Saraswai when he heard him doing Nindya of Guru Nanak Dev ji but sadly other Sikhs present there stopped him from killing that Dusht. An alliance is only good when Sikhs are calling the shots and fully in control.
  15. I remember about 2 years ago a few Sikhs (all were goody two shoes) were doing sewa of poor people in Rajasthan by gathering food for them. Instead of thanking the Sikhs for their selfless service, a mob gathered of those skinny Bhayas who began to beat the Sikhs. The Sikhs were all lying down taking the beating. The video was embarrassing to watch. Sometimes I feel India is not deserving of a good people like the Sikhs especially when we get this strange itch to do selfless service of them. They don't deserve this sewa.
  16. Sadly this had been misrepresentated a lot in our Panth for the last few years mainly by missionaries to the point where many Sikhs have also started believing this. Firstly, it is not buckets milk but buckets of Kachi Lassi. Kachi Lassi in this case is a small portion of milk(about 20%) mixed with 80% water. The reason this is used since ancient times in India is because it does not damage marble flooring. In fact it gives a soft feel to the marble after applying it. The alternative to this is modern chemical based products which can damage the marble long term by corrosion and wearing it out. Besides this these modern chemical based products can also cause cancer and damage the environment. So Kachi Lassi is definitely best suited for this sewa.
  17. Just saw the video of the attacked Sikh in hospital. It was hard to watch. It was truly a barbaric attack by people who were no less than barbarians.
  18. That is a very old Abrahamic game. When they are a small minority they always act meek and with nimrata by turning the other cheek. But once they start gaining numbers their Nimrata is the first to go away. In Korea Christians are very aggressive against the Buddhists. They don't even hide their hatred anymore. In Punjab we are now starting to see the beginnings of their ugly side too where they start to riot as they did in Batala a few years ago. Recently o ne of their preachers very disrespectfully spoke against the Gurus. When a Nihang Singh replied using the same language against Jesus they got him arrested by the Punjab police. They don't target Hindus because they know there will be retaliation by Shiv Sena and other Hindu outfits. But they target Sikhs for conversions because they know Sikhs will not retaliate since all our focus is to oppose Hindus and ignore all the other hostile enemies of our Panth.
  19. The Christian Evangelicals are far worse for the Sikhs currently than even Muslims or Hindus. While they face opposition all over India from Hindus and Muslims, but in Punjab they are not facing any backlash all because of the Sikhs who have not awoken to the threat that is Christianity. Just look at the example of Korea. During WW2 the Christians were a small percentage of the Korean population but now they dominate Korea. Buddhists have been relegated to an inferior position. Today Christians shamelessly show their full hostility towards the Buddhists. I remember a few years ago a few Korean Christian girls came to Sri Darbar Sahib and dared to proselytize Sikhs. Sadly no Sikh said anything to them. But one Sikh Bibi (a real Sherni) confronted them. We are seen as a soft target by these Christian missionary vultures.
  20. All of our history of Guru Sahib's time period is based on these ancient granths like the Janam Sakhis, Mahima Prakash, Sri Gur Sobha, Suraj Prakash etc. If we discard these granths then we have nothing left on our Guru jees. It is only less than 2 to 3 percent of the Sakhis that are not according to Gurmat it doesn't mean we should discard the entire granth with all the authentic Sakhis. It's almost like throwing the baby along with the bath water. Kavi ji was a great scholar. Kavi Santokh Singh gathered Sakhis related to Guru Sahibaan where ever he could find them from all over Punjab. He wrote his monumental Granth in beautiful poetry which is why Katha is done of it for the benefit of Sangat.
  21. This sexual deviance is a Paap bigger than other paaps. It is on par with incest.
  22. I used to translate that verse just like you. But on further analysis I came to the conclusion that in Bani you will find some instances where ਮਨੈ means ਮੰਨ ਵਿੱਚ similarly ਜਗੈ means ਜੱਗ ਵਿਚ। Furthermore ਜਗੈ has never been used to mean ਜਾਗਣਾ। Even in Hindi which uses shorter vowels than Punjabi .also uses the long vowel Jaag(जाग) to mean awaken. ਧਰਮ means different things in different places. ਧਰਮ can be used as plural to mean many Dharms i.e. many religious ways and it can also be used as singular to mean the one supreme ਧਰਮ। For example: ਸਰਬ ਧਰਮ ਮਹਿ ਸ੍ਰੇਸਟ ਧਰਮੁ ॥ ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਕਰਮੁ ॥ In the first Pangti ਸਰਬ ਧਰਮ means of all the Dharms the second time Dharm in the same verse is used it is singular to mean the ਸ੍ਰੇਸ਼ਟ Dharm is the Dharm where naam is recited i.e. Gurmat. So Gurbani is saying that the Dharms which do not Jap Naam are not ਸ੍ਰੇਸ਼ਟ। ਸਕਲ ਜਗਤ ਮੋ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਗਾਜੈ।। ਜਗੈ ਧਰਮ ਹਿੰਦੁਕ ਤੁਰਕਨ ਦੁੰਦ ਭਾਜੈ।। According to me this would mean: (ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਰ, ਸਾਰੇ ਜਗਤ ਵਿੱਚ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਗੱਜੇ। ਜੱਗ ਵਿਚ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਤੇ ਇਸਲਾਮੀ ਧਰਮ ਨੂੰ ਮੰਨਣ ਵਾਲੇ(ਖਾਲਸੇ ਦੇ ਰਾਹ ਤੋਂ) ਭੱਜ ਨਸ ਜਾਣ।) I don't know why you would use ਮਿਟਹਿ to mean forgotten. ਮਿਟਹਿ means eradicate or ਮਿਟ ਜਾਏ, ਮੁੱਕ ਜਾਏ. Even in Bani it is used to mean eradicate ਮਿਟਹਿ ਕਲੇਸ ਸੁਖੀ ਹੋਇ ਰਹੀਐ. Within Ugardanti too it has been used to mean ਮੁਕਾ ਦੇਣਾ, ਖਤਮ ਕਰ ਦੇਣਾ ਤੁਰਕ ਹਿੰਦ ਕਾ ਸਕਲ ਝਗਰਾ ਮਿਟਾਊਂ (ਤੁਰਕਾਂ ਤੇ ਹਿੰਦੂਆਂ ਦਾ ਸਾਰਾ ਝਗੜਾ ਖਤਮ ਕਰ ਦੇਵਾਂ) My interpretation of these verses makes perfect sense when one reads the following Bani: ਪਾਂਇ ਗਹੇ ਜਬ ਤੇ ਤੁਮਰੇ ਤਬ ਤੇ ਕੋਊ ਆਂਖ ਤਰੇ ਨਹੀ ਆਨਯੋ ॥ ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਅਨੇਕ ਕਹੈਂ ਮਤ ਏਕ ਨ ਮਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬੇਦ ਸਭੈ ਬਹੁ ਭੇਦ ਕਹੈ ਹਮ ਏਕ ਨ ਜਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਸਿਪਾਨ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਕਰਿ ਮੈ ਨ ਕਹਯੋ ਸਭ ਤੋਹਿ ਬਖਾਨਯੋ ॥੮੬੩॥ The religions of the Vedas and Quran are corrupt which is why the teesr Panth had to be pragat. And ਦੇਵਲ literally means place where Devas are worshipped. Why give an alternative meaning? Does ਮਸੀਤ now also have an alternative meaning?
  23. No. He simply wrote an analysis about it at the start much like how piara Singh padam would do to give the reader some background info before the ਮੂਲ ਪਾਠ of the historical manuscript.
  24. pdl is Punjab digital library. It is website that has thousands of Punjabi books that are now out of print. Many even over a 100 years old written by authors long forgotten. It is an excellent website. Besides this it so has many hand written sroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, Sri Dasam Granth.
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