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I knew Gyani Thakur Singh Ji would have dodged it. please lisgten to the Katha by Sant iani Gurbachan Singh Ji. This is about Krishan and the praise for the Sargun Upashna through the devta

Anek Hai Phir Ik Hai Both Sargun and Nirgun at the sametime.

Singh now that you have posted the same quote everywhere do you want to change any praise for Krishna in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji such as the shabads by some of the Bhagats?

Harinder Singh if you are getting excited by this do not take a peek at the Charittars your mind will explode!

ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ ਬਾਣੀ ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਕੀ maalee gourraa baanee bhagath naamadhaev jee kee Maalee Gauraa, The Word Of Devotee Naam Dayv Jee: 9 ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh || One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: 9 ਧਨਿ ਧੰਨਿ ਓ ਰਾਮ ਬੇਨੁ ਬਾਜੈ ॥ dhhan dhhann ou raam baen baajai || Blessed, blessed is that flute which the Lord plays. 10 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਮਧੁਰ ਮਧੁਰ ਧੁਨਿ ਅਨਹਤ ਗਾਜੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ madhhur madhhur dhhun anehath gaajai ||1|| rehaao || The sweet, sweet unstruck sound current sings forth. ||1||Pause|| 10 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਧਨਿ ਧਨਿ ਮੇਘਾ ਰੋਮਾਵਲੀ ॥ dhhan dhhan maeghaa romaavalee || Blessed, blessed is the wool of the sheep; 10 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਧਨਿ ਧਨਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਓਢੈ ਕਾਂਬਲੀ ॥੧॥ dhhan dhhan kirasan oudtai kaanbalee ||1|| blessed, blessed is the blanket worn by Krishna. ||1|| 11 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਧਨਿ ਧਨਿ ਤੂ ਮਾਤਾ ਦੇਵਕੀ ॥ dhhan dhhan thoo maathaa dhaevakee || Blessed, blessed are you, O mother Dayvakee; 11 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਜਿਹ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਰਮਈਆ ਕਵਲਾਪਤੀ ॥੨॥ jih grih rameeaa kavalaapathee ||2|| into your home the Lord was born. ||2|| 11 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਧਨਿ ਧਨਿ ਬਨ ਖੰਡ ਬਿੰਦ੍ਰਾਬਨਾ ॥ dhhan dhhan ban khandd bindhraabanaa || Blessed, blessed are the forests of Brindaaban; 12 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਜਹ ਖੇਲੈ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਨਾਰਾਇਨਾ ॥੩॥ jeh khaelai sree naaraaeinaa ||3|| the Supreme Lord plays there. ||3|| 12 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਬੇਨੁ ਬਜਾਵੈ ਗੋਧਨੁ ਚਰੈ ॥ baen bajaavai godhhan charai || He plays the flute, and herds the cows; 12 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਨਾਮੇ ਕਾ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਆਨਦ ਕਰੈ ॥੪॥੧॥ naamae kaa suaamee aanadh karai ||4||1|| Naam Dayv's Lord and Master plays happily. ||4||1|| 13 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਮੇਰੋ ਬਾਪੁ ਮਾਧਉ ਤੂ ਧਨੁ ਕੇਸੌ ਸਾਂਵਲੀਓ ਬੀਠੁਲਾਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ maero baap maadhho thoo dhhan kaesa saanvaleeou beethulaae ||1|| rehaao || O my Father, Lord of wealth, blessed are You, long-haired, dark-skinned, my darling. ||1||Pause|| 13 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਕਰ ਧਰੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਤੇ ਆਏ ਗਜ ਹਸਤੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਉਧਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥ kar dhharae chakr baikunth thae aaeae gaj hasathee kae praan oudhhaareealae || You hold the steel chakra in Your hand; You came down from Heaven, and saved the life of the elephant. 14 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਦੁਹਸਾਸਨ ਕੀ ਸਭਾ ਦ੍ਰੋਪਤੀ ਅੰਬਰ ਲੇਤ ਉਬਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥੧॥ dhuhasaasan kee sabhaa dhropathee anbar laeth oubaareealae ||1|| In the court of Duhsaasan, You saved the honor of Dropati, when her clothes were being removed. ||1|| 14 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਗੋਤਮ ਨਾਰਿ ਅਹਲਿਆ ਤਾਰੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਕੇਤਕ ਤਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥ gotham naar ahaliaa thaaree paavan kaethak thaareealae || You saved Ahliyaa, the wife of Gautam; how many have You purified and carried across? 15 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਐਸਾ ਅਧਮੁ ਅਜਾਤਿ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਤਉ ਸਰਨਾਗਤਿ ਆਈਅਲੇ ॥੨॥੨॥ aisaa adhham ajaath naamadhaeo tho saranaagath aaeealae ||2||2|| Such a lowly outcaste as Naam Dayv has come seeking Your Sanctuary. ||2||2|| 15 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਸਭੈ ਘਟ ਰਾਮੁ ਬੋਲੈ ਰਾਮਾ ਬੋਲੈ ॥ sabhai ghatt raam bolai raamaa bolai || Within all hearts, the Lord speaks, the Lord speaks. 16 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਰਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਕੋ ਬੋਲੈ ਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ raam binaa ko bolai rae ||1|| rehaao || Who else speaks, other than the Lord? ||1||Pause|| 16 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਏਕਲ ਮਾਟੀ ਕੁੰਜਰ ਚੀਟੀ ਭਾਜਨ ਹੈਂ ਬਹੁ ਨਾਨਾ ਰੇ ॥ eaekal maattee kunjar cheettee bhaajan hain bahu naanaa rae || Out of the same clay, the elephant, the ant, and the many sorts of species are formed. 17 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਅਸਥਾਵਰ ਜੰਗਮ ਕੀਟ ਪਤੰਗਮ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਰਾਮੁ ਸਮਾਨਾ ਰੇ ॥੧॥ asathhaavar jangam keett pathangam ghatt ghatt raam samaanaa rae ||1|| In stationary life forms, moving beings, worms, moths and within each and every heart, the Lord is contained. ||1|| 17 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਏਕਲ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਰਾਖੁ ਅਨੰਤਾ ਅਉਰ ਤਜਹੁ ਸਭ ਆਸਾ ਰੇ ॥ eaekal chinthaa raakh ananthaa aour thajahu sabh aasaa rae || Remember the One, Infinite Lord; abandon all other hopes. 18 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev ਪ੍ਰਣਵੈ ਨਾਮਾ ਭਏ ਨਿਹਕਾਮਾ ਕੋ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਕੋ ਦਾਸਾ ਰੇ ॥੨॥੩॥ pranavai naamaa bheae nihakaamaa ko thaakur ko dhaasaa rae ||2||3|| Naam Dayv prays, I have become dispassionate and detached; who is the Lord and Master, and who is the slave? ||2||3|| 19 Maalee Gaurhaa Saint Nam Dev

Nice post Neo Singh Ji is Vishnus avtars or Vishnu himself is condemned to such a fate, then someone should have told Bhagat Nam Dev Ji ਸਾਤ ਘੜੀ ਜਬ ਬੀਤੀ ਸੁਣੀ ॥ saath gharree jab beethee sunee || Three hours passed, 3 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev ਅਜਹੁ ਨ ਆਇਓ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਧਣੀ ॥੧੪॥ ajahu n aaeiou thribhavan dhhanee ||14|| and even then, the Lord of the three worlds had not come. ||14|| 3 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev ਪਾਖੰਤਣ ਬਾਜ ਬਜਾਇਲਾ ॥ paakhanthan baaj bajaaeilaa || Playing on the instrument of the feathered wings, 3 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev ਗਰੁੜ ਚੜ੍ਹ੍ਹੇ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਆਇਲਾ ॥੧੫॥ garurr charrhae gobindh aaeilaa ||15|| the Lord of the Universe came, mounted on the eagle garura. ||15|| 4 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev ਅਪਨੇ ਭਗਤ ਪਰਿ ਕੀ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਲ ॥ apanae bhagath par kee prathipaal || He cherished His devotee, 4 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev ਗਰੁੜ ਚੜ੍ਹ੍ਹੇ ਆਏ ਗੋਪਾਲ ॥੧੬॥ garurr charrhae aaeae gopaal ||16|| and the Lord came, mounted on the eagle garura. ||16|| 4 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev ਕਹਹਿ ਤ ਧਰਣਿ ਇਕੋਡੀ ਕਰਉ ॥ kehehi th dhharan eikoddee karo || The Lord said to him, ""If you wish, I shall turn the earth sideways. 5 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev ਕਹਹਿ ਤ ਲੇ ਕਰਿ ਊਪਰਿ ਧਰਉ ॥੧੭॥ kehehi th lae kar oopar dhharo ||17|| If you wish, I shall turn it upside down. ||17|| 5 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev ਕਹਹਿ ਤ ਮੁਈ ਗਊ ਦੇਉ ਜੀਆਇ ॥ kehehi th muee goo dhaeo jeeaae || If you wish, I shall bring the dead cow back to life. 5 Bhaira-o Saint Nam Dev ਸਭੁ ਕੋਈ ਦੇਖੈ ਪਤੀਆਇ ॥੧੮॥ sabh koee dhaekhai patheeaae ||18|| Everyone will see and be convinced.""||18|| Ang 1166 Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji

I would like to see more Katha by real vidhvaans like Sant Teja Singh Ji Khudda Walae, Sri Mahant Gyan Dev Singh Ji, Bhagwan Ji, etc

The Sampardai Taksal Steek for Sant Giani Gurbachan Singh Ji's Katha for Sri Raag and Maajh has been released. It is around 1136 pages in total so quite thick. It is now available through Jaspinder SIngh Grover on facebook as his father owns Jawahar SIngh Kirpal Singh Book store in Amritsar who can send it by courier. Normally takes a week to arrive.

My firend what do you do when you get tuks in bani praiseing the Avtars like in the Bhatts Savaiyas and the Sahansar nama? I will expand ont he others when i get a chance

What about this video though at 35 seconds in?

I dont think any of the above actally shows the difference betweent Vishnu Avtar and the Guru Avtar. The Differences coem from their difference in five fields Shakti, Viakteer, Ayu, Kartab and Pragya.

The links worked i tried them today and downloaded all the pdf's again

Mahant Teja Singh Ji (Double MA) are top vidvaans and are the ones releasing their gurdevs books. Thei Gurdev was Mahant Ganesha Singh Ji. Mahant Gazab Singh Ji who took over from Sachkhand Vasi Mahan Surjit Singh Ji Sevapanthi are at Sevapanthi Ashram in Amritsar close to Shaheed udham Singh Nagar. Not far from Gurdwara Ramsar. I went there a few years ago and asked to see Baba Ji not knowing i was talking to Sant Gazhab Singh Ji. he told us to go and do Matha to Guru Sahib then eat langar. He made us langar, served us and washed our feet and hands. We ate expecting to be told when the Mahant would be ready for us then a load of sangat walked in and started trying to touch Sant Gazhab Singh Ji's feet but they kept moving away. Eventually we realised that the Mahant had served us int he most humble manner and we apologised for our actions. Baba Ji are full of huility an Vidvaans. Sant Makhan Singh Ji dera Sato Gali did th same as well Baba Sarbjot Singh Ji Bedi - Baba Ji are fluent in english as they studied at Cambridge Uni and are the 17th descendants of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. The artifacts and granths they have at una sahib is amazing. Will put some more up soon

you can download it in pdf from www.ik13.com

Baba Inderjeet Singh ji Rakbe Wale would be another mahapursh to see and Mahant Gyandev Singh Ji of Narmal Panchayati Akhara

Karma in full effect

Well the big thing is that post 1984 those singhs who killed an enemy of the sikhs admitted their crime and took the punishment as if the Lord has blessed them. Here we see the opposite so can we really stick by them, defend them and praise them for being cowards!

Sant Giani Mohan Singh Ji Bhindra Walae

Gobind Gita is in a number of puratan Dasam Granths and is recited by Hazuri Singhs and Nihangs and not really by either Nirmalas or Udasis Udasis recite the Nanak Gita

A person was shot by narrow minded sikhs where not even the Jamdhoots can enter to take a life!

What is a Panthic View??? Does that mean all sampardas are not panthic?? If so tell us know and we will break away from the SGPC who are like a cage on the mysticism of Sikhi. Without the sampardas you have no historical or supportive texts about either the faith or history of the panth!!!!

Do we have a list of kathakaar, kirtan jathas and kavishris attending?

Will there be any katha on the test transmissions and do you have a program schedule?

The Karninama was actually a prophocy of Guru Gobind Singh ji's form and propogating the Khalsa that Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji explained to the Qazis in Mecca and Medina

No other complete katha exists either on or off the net!