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Jai Tegang!

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  1. Having 50+ countries with sizeable populations in absolute majorities and still being relatively powerless compared to the western powers doesn't exude confidence. And don't conflate regional ethnic tendencies with 'power of islam'. Some ethnicities are fighters no matter the religion. It adds an extra layer, but it's not always the deciding factor. Islam like xians have hundreds of ethnicities that bring their positives and negatives to the table. We have one, and we do pretty well given cards we are dealt. For your second point, I wouldn't exaggerate our gaddhar ratio. I don't think the kaum is full of them. You will always find a handful that will fill in the role the oppressor state demands. If a kps gill or brar or a swarn ghotna didn't step forward, the state can use a non sikh face to its bidding. They just prefer to put a sikh face to their genocide. The power is behind the mask. The mask is powerless in itself. Commenting on your last point. I think you've fallen into some social media rabbit hole regarding the 'rise of islam'. There aren't that many converts in sum total. Most are just going through the isalmic jungle fever and fizzle out eventually. There are more muslims leaving than coming in. Iranians have covertly abandoned islam in large numbers and are feeling a pull backwards to their old parsi roots. Pre-islamic ethnic cultures are tugging many muslim ethnicities backwards to their roots. It's not quite out in the open, but you have to give these things a few centuries to play out. Their growth lies in birthrate, that I will concede is their strength.
  2. There is no alphaness to arabs when you look at their ground work. They will moan and groan about a tiny sliver of a nation that has rag-dolled them multiple times, but tippy toe around when real action is needed. There are multilple muslim ethnicities that are under repression yet the ummah can't muster up a response. Look at the condition of groups like rohingya, uygher, palistinian, alabanian, indian muslims, kashmiris. Where have they shown their brave alpha muscle apart from flexing in liberal democracies where they know they can ride the coattails of the extreme loony left. The pakis will shake hands with the chineses knowing full well that their co-religionists are getting lobotomized. The gulf states will embrace modi knowing full well what plans hindutva has rolled out.
  3. Islam will never conquer the west, no chance at all. All they can do is increase through birthrate and immigration, but they will never acquire real power. A few celebrities or commoners here and there don’t change the broader picture (same kind of conversion stories exist for all faith groups with neo-budhists being a case in point). Euros/whites are far more likely to revert back to some pre-christian faith system, or re-invent Christianity for their current tastes, than choose Islam. Plus, they have hundreds of other modern day ‘isms’ to choose from instead of an outdated desert tribal religion. If the whites feel threatened enough, they will switch on their genocidal mode. Unfortunately, we will also be wiped out along with the muslims if it reaches that point. Also, don’t fall into the social media algorithm trap. Muslims are not powerful by any stretch. They punch well below their numbers, and the amount of countries they own they should have been vastly more powerful, but they aren’t. Most of their countries are subdued with American dominance and ‘aid-funding’. Don’t think just because a few million have settled into first-world western states that they will somehow take them over. We need to concentrate on our core values and have faith in Guru Maharaj to guide us into the future. We may not matter today on the global scene, but that can change in the coming centuries if Guruji will it. Learn from the accomplishments and mistakes of others and our own, then wisely chart our next steps. We'll be ok.
  4. I really enjoy the more direct and simple grammar of Bhangu's Panth Prakash compared to the more strecthed out flowerey suraj prakash. He gets to the point much more quickly! Perhaps it's my own bias because I'm in it for the history and not the poetry. Also, I think the text can be read by punjabi speakers and they can understand the gist of it without having to constantly read the translation/ commentary. There is a mention of a game called "saunchi" in the above text. I'm guessing it could be a type of contact sport like kabbadi ? Or perhaps somethinga bit more aggressive?
  5. Each of theses groups has to be contextualized for the time period. Most of these ostracized groups dissolved back into mainstream over time. They pose no current challenge to the Panth's well-being. These "lists" need updating all the time. Even parasitic offshoot groups that we were in conflict with 40 years ago dont pose any serious challenges today. The radha-soami head baba has pivoted back towards sikhi as a case in point, and so has one half of the namdhari sect. Coming back to ks makan, what is the point of targeting someone for leaving the amritdhari lifestyle when you have the vast majority of our people also rejecting the same by way of never adopting it inspite of beng born in sikh families. I would understand if guys like makhan started attacking the amritdhari jeevan , but that's not the case. I would also be interested in your opinion on my earlier point about the numerous youngsters who cut their hair after having taken Amrit in childhood or sometimes even in their youth.
  6. This was more applicable when cutting kesh was rare and rules like these helped nip the problem. The situation is inverted now. Also, is it better to never even attempt amritdhari life ? Atleast Makhan tried for a few years, and he still holds immense respect or it. Just leave the guy alone and let him come back on more firm footing in the future. Plus, there are many kids from (amritdhari) families that take amrit at a young age, but cut their kesh in their youth. Do you think it would be fair to namecall them as sirgums while their peers get a free pass? You have to evaluate these maryada rules on an ongoing basis to see what helps the panth and what may end up causing more harm than good.
  7. There are way too many churches in punjab in relation to their numbers. It is definitely a well coordinated and well funded effort by various christian groups. They face very little resistance in comparison to the rest of india, so they're exploiting our tolerance. Caste discrimination can't be solely blamed because Punjab tends to be better than most parts of India (even the gov. figures agree). Also, Punjab has the largest proportion of "lower castes" at 32%. Caste Population data of Punjab Constitutional categories Population (%) Castes Other Backward Classes (OBC) 31.3%[7][8] includes Sainis,[9] Sunar, Kamboj, Labana, Tarkhan/Ramgarhia, Kumhar/Prajapati, Arain, Gujjar, Teli, Banjara, Lohar, Bhat,[10] Others Scheduled Castes (Dalits not including Rai Sikh statistics[11]) 31.9%[12] includes Mazhabi Sikh - 10%, Ramdasia Sikh/Ravidassia (Chamar)/Ad-Dharmi - 13.1%, Balmiki/Bhanghi - 3.5%, Bazigar - 1.05%, Others - 4%[13] Others 33% includes Jat Sikh - 21%,[14] Brahmin, (Khatri-Arora-Sood[15]), Bania, Kayastha - 12%[16] Rajputs (includes Sikh Rajputs) - 5%[17] religious minorities 3.8%[18] includes Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Jains The cadre of Nihang Dals comes heavily from Mazabi Sikhs as it offers a path out of abject poverty and some stability and honor. But sadly we haven't done enough as evidence from the skyrocketing conversions of Mazabi Sikhs. The people in that video are more likely to be from the same caste. One side has abandoned Sikhi while the other side is trying their level best to stop the erosion.
  8. I think you're correct here. There is a redefinition of each religious group by Guru sahibaan in Gurbani. The new vision Maharaj offers, naturally and gently funnels them into a more Sikhi oriented way of life. The 4-doors-one-walkway metaphor.
  9. I've watched a few of Pal's videos. I was absolutely shocked that this stuff is so prevelent over there. He went after the Gujjar 'deras' (they practice this to a horrific level by actually handicapping/giving brain injury to kids and then shifting them around their camps' network) but backed off as of late because of the hostility from them. There are gut-wrenching videos of elders kept in captivity at home; migrant laboureres (being the most prevelant class); mentally handicapped locals...and the list goes on. If this stuff happens in Punjab, just imagine the scale of it across India. Probably worse is pakistan I imagine. The weakest are exploited to the max over there.
  10. Same with Canada. Ajit Sandhu https://www.sikh24.com/2015/12/11/khalra-killer-ssp-ajit-sandhu-is-alive-in-canada-hints-ex-dgp-sashi-kant/ is rumoured to be living in canada (if still alive). Likely to be plenty of others.
  11. Thanks for sharing the artwork @dallysingh101 It's fascinating to see how the dress of women has evolved, and contrasts with popular perceptions in present day jathas. Honest engagement with history really helps to chart the future.
  12. This is a big victory for the Panth, not so much electorally, but more so as the flag of defiance has been planted once more inside India's Parliament. I truly believe Guru Maharaj works in ways we can’t understand. Nobody thought entertainers would be leading a rejuvenation in Panthic politics, but it happened! First Deep Sidhu and then Subhdeep Sidhu [Mossewala], both contributed in ways perhaps even they were unaware of at the time. The youth of the Panth is coming together and coming back to Guru’s Charn. Even though there are multitude issues with structure and hammering-out of policy, this victory is the anchor the youth badly needed. Now they have a chance to build back true Panthic politics and get rid of the latest cancer in the form of Kejriwal/Raghav chadda et al. Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji maharaj. Please guide your Panth into the future.
  13. There is bound to be plenty of chaos in the near future of India. I don't think the majority of our kaum is going to get to a more matured civilizational point anytime soon. We will have to work with what little we can muster up. It's starting to hit the fan over there I'm sensing. Panic is brewing for what is to come.
  14. Some positive winds of change. Some highlights: Call made for Sikhs to start up firing ranges and get acquisition and training in firearms. Pinds need to halt the contruction of churches and mosques Parchariks and panthic sampardais need to leave their comfort zones and restart parchar in pinds in the face of aggressive christian campaigns jawarhar lal nehru was blamed for betrayal and denial of our raaj Sikhs have a right to seek raaj And some other points were made. Jathedaar also pointed out that the 'caging in' of sangat this year by heavy deployment of security forces is unprecedented in recent times and will not go unnoticed. All in all, this is positive news that the decimation of Badal Dal has prompted a pivot in favor of facing some real issues. The SGPC just a few years back was flat out rejecting that whole scale conversions were turning Gurdaspur and all of border areas into Christian strongholds. Im glad they have summoned enough courage to include mushrooming mosques in the list.
  15. The Abohar Fazilka corner in south-west punjab has a large hindu population, with "haryanvi" jaats and other castes like the bishnois, who ended up on our side after Punjab was split into three states. There are gangs and crime syndicates operating in the NCR region, haryana, rajasthan and it stretches into punjab thanks to this lawarence bishnoi guy.
  16. Sad to see a youth taken in his prime like this. The gang violence is spinning out of control over there. Singers, actors, lower end politicians get extorted and have to choose sides to survive. This hit is part of the wider conflict going on between the Lawrence Bishnoi/ Goldy Brar and Bambiha gangs.
  17. The call to arms was prior to the government scaling back security. It was more like petty politics by AAP given that the Jathedar had only 4 security men to begin with. In comparison, Kejriwal gets 90 Punjab Police Personnel (even though he resides in Delhi) and Raghav Chada gets 50. Also, these are not temporary scale backs. Bhagwant Mann has in fact requested and received 100 companies of the Indo-Tibetan Border Patrol force to "keep the peace". Interestingly, the Jathedaar's call was made after this police build-up in the state.
  18. The old man states that it was his father, kulwant singh, son of Hira Singh, that converted. Kulwant Singh was married to Khem Singh Bedi's granddaughter. It's interesting how he describes the process. His father had travelled to Iran and came under Islamic influence during his extended stay. Came back and started dining with muslims. Sikhs got suspicious and started harassing him to quit his islamic leaning. Kulwant singh took off with his wife, from one village to the next, with sikhs in pursuit, until he landed in a more powerful caste muslim village, where he settled in safety and cut his hair. The wife had little choice left I suppose and was renamed Zainab Bibi. The old man states that he recalls his mother as being mentally deranged during his childhood due to the trauma of separation from her whole extended family members. Even he seems to realize what an <banned word filter activated> decision his father made to convert as they lived in poverty afterwards, coming from powerful clans that owned thousands of acres of lands. At one point, the old man says his dad used to say " we come from a kaum that is the sardar of all kaums" (referring to his own Sikh origins). I'm sure kulwant singh regretted his decision, especially since 47' buried all possibility of reversal.
  19. It's about time they pivot back to the Panth, even if out of compulsion. Sadly though, many of our brethren back home will side with AAP and Kejriwals puppet, Bhagwant Mann, and actually oppose this message by pinning it as a survival attempt by Badal through proxy. Sitting from afar, it just goes to show what a convoluted mess we have back home.
  20. I think we have no option but to accept [which we should, as Sikhs] and come to terms with the worldview of Guru Maharaj, based off of what we can gather from both Gurbani sources and other historical sources like rehitnamay etc. It’s the only way we can keep our sense of sanity and integrity in the chaotic middle gray space we find ourselves in, wedged in between competing megalithic civilizations. Our doctrines and ideals can’t be reformulated to suit the current whims of the people they serve because of the relative proximity to evidence our emergence timeline presents. Regarding your point about our parcharks (post-partition), I agree with you. I have also wondered the same listening to the visiting gyanis. I doubt the schools they learned from had any serious Arabic/Isalmic studies programs, lol. Probably, they had rudimentary commentaries akin to those high-school level world religion books. I think most paracharks are genuinely completely in the dark about the darkside of Islam. Add to that the ambiguity of sarbat da bhala without the asterisk. I won’t get into Gurbani references in this post (I will say, for now, there is no mention of Mmd or references to islamic /semetic stories and characters, save the odd one I may have missed to spot), but what is interesting is the rehitnamas and other 18th century and 19th century literature. It’s quite blunt in regards to Islam. Even our Four Kurehits appear more like a direct condemnation of Islamic customs, ie hooka hajamat halalo haram. The complete separation of food, habitation, and family from muslims that our elders practiced right upto partition speaks volumes. I think we have enough material to formulate a more appropriate approach to Islam and Muslims that won’t involve us holding umbrellas over them and renovating back old mosques. These next gen parcharks have info so readily available on youtbue about the darkness in Islam, it just needs to be understood and disseminated in Punjabi now.
  21. There is a sakhi is sooraj prakash about Dasmesh Pita giving an important life lesson to the Khalsa. They get sweet rice prepared in large vats and offered to local dogs, who end up scattering the rice and mauling each other. Process repeated with deer and this time the animals gently circle around the vats and peacefully share the meal. Up to us how we want to treat each other and the resources of the Panth.
  22. People are attracted to strength and look for personal gain. It’s not the nitty gritty offerings of the religion, it’s the material benefit of the grouping that really pulls people in and keeps them there. If we can’t project strength in Punjab, it’s not going to work anywhere else. People need to see it in action to be convinced that giving up membership in the 1 billion-plus hindu conglomerate is worthwhile. Just look at Islam. No matter how horrendous and appalling aspects of their religious doctrine are, muslims stay put. Even knowing full well that there is no way any sane person with a sense of inherent morality can practice their faith to the T, muslims will not abandon ship. Only when a viable option that offers them security and material gain will muslims start leaving, and they have strong gatekeepers to prevent that from ever happening. I think our best course of action is more along the line of what @dallysingh101 keeps reminding us. We need to clean our own house, and that requires some harsh reality checks.
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