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Why are very unclothed girls running university sikh societies?
BhForce replied to ipledgeblue's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
What are you even talking about? Men might wear V-necks at the gym or such, but certainly not to the office. You seriously want to claim men wear V-necks to the office? Men wear tight trousers to show of their whatevers? When have you ever seen that? On the other hand, it's extremely common to wear deep neck blouses, half-sleeve, sleeveless, tube top, crop top, mini-skirts, etc. When have you ever seen a mean wearing a sleeveless shirt or a crop top to work? -
Why are very unclothed girls running university sikh societies?
BhForce replied to ipledgeblue's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
Seems to be a case of the blind leading the blind. -
Are you saying that Sikhs are allowed to eat meat other than jhatka? There's no general permission for meat, only in the context of dharam yudh or preparation for that. I do agree with you that there's no reason for Sikhs to throw up upon seeing blood. But, also, if you don't have a reason (dharam yudh) to kill an animal, you should not.
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Yeah, no kidding. The problem is not that the "friend' suddenly gave him "magic mushrooms". The problem is that he hangs out with people who think it's a good idea to interfere with your mental functioning with chemicals.
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A round of applause for this gentleman. You say it like you're proud of it. Yeah, and if you sell pens, maybe a butcher shop will buy a pen, and it's basically like butchering the animal yourself. So, if that's your logic, then you might as well just start eating meat. Since you think that anything on a chain that might be sold to a meat eater is morally the same as eating meat yourself. So, it's "already killed" so it's no problem? Well, what's wrong with eating it, too, then? Spoken like a manmukh, not an Amritdhari. Are you sure you love Guru Sahib, or just money?
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I don't know if you're trying to say meat loads are OK or not OK. It seems to me you're justifying meat loads because you're afraid someone will denigrate jhatka. No one is talking about jhatka. The meat loads in normal trucks are most certainly not jhatka. In some cases they are halal, but always non-jhatka. There's no reason to defend such meat loads.
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It's OK to listen to Nitnem because otherwise if you were doing Nitnem in the Gurdwara and the Giani is reading off Nitnem, the rest of the Sangat is listening to the paath. No one would say the Sangat is failing in its duty to do Nitnem. Of course, you should pay attention to the paath. Also, you should read paath so you learn it before you start to just listen to it.
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Don't be obtuse, man. The words of the programming language are maybe a dozen, two dozen, something like that. You can learn those by rote. What they are doing is not changing the words of the programming language, although there's no reason you couldn't do that. Microsoft did for its Office programming language. What they are talking about is this: You don't think that French people, when they are discussing programming, speak in French? Even though the words used in their programs are the original English terms. E.g., a language I just googled (Go): From Wiki: func (addr ipv4addr) ZeroBroadcast() bool { return addr == 0xFFFFFFFF That would remain the same, but you'd talk about it in Punjabi. Get it?
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I don't know what you're saying by "break off". Do you mean fall off, as in disattach from the root? Comb you hair before you wash it. Most of the hair that would fall off will fall off before you wash it. Put the fallen off hair in a container and burn the hair later in a respectful manner (like fireplace, maybe). Then wash your hair.
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What are you trying to say? That we Sikhs can eat food labeled "Halal" just because we're guessing that they probably didn't have time to prary the Muslim prayer on the meat?
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To the OP, don't listen this "Gursikh". Who are you to say straight up won't hurt his rehat? Let me ask you a question: would carrying a heroin load "not affect his rehat"? If so, why? Also, please tell us whether selling heroin to people would "hurt his rehat" or not.
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Yours seems to be the only balanced answer here. It's one thing to say carrying a meat load is mazboori, as you have. It's quite another, like some other posters said, that there's no problem whatsoever carrying a meat load.
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What? No, that is not true. Where did you get that? We're not supposed to encourage people to consume harmful things because that increases our negative karma. Simple as that.
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There's no problem at all. Did the letter say to not eat or to "fast"? If you have to not eat, for whatever legitimate reason, that's not a problem. The problem would be if you were "fasting" on a religious basis, like showing off how "pure" you are, like some Hindus and Muslims do. We're not supposed to do that.
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GURMAT SANGEET / RAAG KIRTAN / DILRUBA - JORI = LESSONS HELP
BhForce replied to a topic in GUPT FORUM
Bro, that is a wrong understanding of Sikhi. There are not "different rules" for Amritdharis vs everyone else. There's one set of rules. It's just that Amritdharis actually follow them (or are supposed to). There's simply no rule you can't learn some sort of vidia (education) from a non-Sikh. I agree with not mixing with people that will harm your Sikhi. But we're not talking about "hanging out" with your Namdhari teacher. He's simply teaching you music. I should note that I'm simply talking about taking lessons from Namdhari (or Hindu, or Muslim) music teachers. Actually going into a Namdhari temple or mosque might require additional reflection. -
GURMAT SANGEET / RAAG KIRTAN / DILRUBA - JORI = LESSONS HELP
BhForce replied to a topic in GUPT FORUM
Bro, what are you talking about? A lot of Sikh (and other non-Sikh, non-Christian kids) go to Church of England and other such schools. As long as you're not worshiping Jesus, I fail to see anything wrong in that. In case you think that's just "modern" squishy Sikhs sending their kids to non-Sikh teachers, Guru Sahib's parents sent them to religious instructors for teaching them Punjabi or other Indian languages (Pandits) and Mullahs for learning Persian. -
"as Nanak said"? Are you a Sikh? The reason people are fighting with you is because they think you're a Sikh. If you're not, then just do what you want to do. Also if you seem to be promoting treating men as brothers, could you please state your views on dating? If dating is bad, then please detail why.
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I don't know if it was you that was posting in the beginning pages of this thread, but if so, why didn't you just lead with that? Why didn't you say "treat men as brothers, women as sisters"? Instead of saying "females can be friends." It made people think that your real goal was to equivocate (call two things the same that are actually different). That you were trying to put "friendship" and "boyfriends/girlfriends" in the same box so that one could lead to another.
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Alright, that's good. Treat men as brothers, women as sisters and not in a lustful way. That's all fine. In fact, that's Gurmat. But the people that are opposing you (or possibly another anonymous poster) is when you (or someone) say that you can be friends with a man just like you would be with a female friend. That is, do things together alone. Go over to each other's apartment. Call each other at all hours of the night. Be physically close (sit right next to each other, hold hands, hug, possibly kiss, etc.). No, you can't do that. And if you think you can, you are the most naive person in the world. So please don't do that. And if you want to, at least don't encourage other young people to do that.
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Great point, bro. Dating is a stupid system. Arrange marriage has problems, but it's the best if done properly.
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No, man, are you kidding? How is he supposed to "get her back"? Is she parked at a Rent-A-Car and you can just "go back" and drive her off? She obviously hasn't thought of him at all in two full years. Now he's supposed to disattach her from whoever she's hooked up with? Dating is what led up to it. Dating is where you pretend you're married, but you're not. So you're free to think sexual thoughts about other people and yet if you do then the other person will get mad at you, but you still aren't bound because you're not married. It's a recipe for disaster, which is shown in the OP's post.
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GURMAT SANGEET / RAAG KIRTAN / DILRUBA - JORI = LESSONS HELP
BhForce replied to a topic in GUPT FORUM
OK, that's reasonable. And I do acknowledge that the ideal is for us to pass on knowledge on a nishkaam (voluntary/free) basis. But I just can't see how that would be possible. I am certainly open to knowing (as above) how someone can possibly learn classical raag sangeet with 60 raags plus tabla taals and also have a good singing voice in their spare time and also make time to teach somebody else's snotty, ungrateful kids for free. -
Are you serious? "yeast formation"? That doesn't even happen in India, much less cold and rainy England and Canada. No one is berating you for cutting your hair. If you want to cut your hair, then cut it. I fail to see why you would write such utterly hateful words for a physical form which our Gurus kept. This would be something like a Hindu or Muslim would write. It sounds like argumentation for why not to keep your hair.
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GURMAT SANGEET / RAAG KIRTAN / DILRUBA - JORI = LESSONS HELP
BhForce replied to a topic in GUPT FORUM
It could be argued that the way to propagate something is to allow people to sell it. I mean, if you prohibit selling music knowledge, there will naturally be very few music teachers. The only people who will be able to travel to them will be the wealthy. We are talking about the West, aren't we? Who exactly among Sikhs living in the West, even truck drivers and taxi drivers are under the poverty level? I think we all know that apne will spend hundreds of dollars when Gippy Grewal or some such are in town. Or for getting good seats at football or other games. Suddenly, they become poor when it comes to music lessons. And that's exactly what I would put on us, not the ustaads. We are greedy and expect that someone should spend their time instructing our little brats for free or next to nothing. I believe we should compensate them richly. -
GURMAT SANGEET / RAAG KIRTAN / DILRUBA - JORI = LESSONS HELP
BhForce replied to a topic in GUPT FORUM
I don't know what I'd call him, but do you have any example of such a person? Or are you just engaging in pure speculation? Again, this "well-learned and highly accomplished ustaad #1", how in the world did he learn sixty raags for free and also become "accomplished" in his spare time? How did he "accomplish" so much (training his voice, doing sargams, writing bandishes, learning tabla taals), while also farming his fields or making furniture to sell or tailoring clothes?