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Portuguese Priest At Guru Arjan Dev Ji's Martyrdom
BhForce replied to tarunjeet singh's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
Multiple things can be true at once. Why did George Bush invade Iraq? For personal admiration? To get back at the Muslims? Or because he and his vice president Cheney were well-invested in defense and other contractors? Possibly all at once. -
If your a Hindu be a good Hindu ,If your a Muslim be a good muslim
BhForce replied to Big_Tera's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
There is no such quote. Not in Gurbani. If you're talking about the Janam Sakhis, there it says that Guru ji said "Na ko Hindu na Mussalmaan", meaning No one is a Hindu No one is a Muslim. There is only one dharam. Dhru was a follower of this Dharam, so was Kabeer ji and Namdev ji and Bhai Gurdas ji and all the Sikhs of Guru ji. ਏਕੋ ਧਰਮੁ ਦ੍ਰਿੜੈ ਸਚੁ ਕੋਈ ॥ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਪੂਰਾ ਜੁਗਿ ਜੁਗਿ ਸੋਈ ॥ p1188 There is One Dharma that solidifies the truth out of all Only Gurmat is perfect throughout the jugs (ages). Harnakash was not a follower of this Dharam, neither was Chandu, among others.- 6 replies
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"Jatt x 10000" It actually is hilarious how just about every Punjabi song is Jatt this and Jatt that these days. Even the singers from other castes (like Miss Pooja) make themselves out to be Jatts for the purposes of their songs.
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What you are saying is true: ਅਹਿ ਕਰੁ ਕਰੇ ਸੁ ਅਹਿ ਕਰੁ ਪਾਏ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਪਕੜੀਐ ਕਿਸੈ ਥਾਇ ॥੩॥ "In this age, one who does with this hand, receives the same with then other hand. None is apprehend in place of another." p406 But it's in relation to people in general. Sikhi also teaches us not to be friends with people who hate Satguru. Muslims (if they are following their religion) inherently think that any religious leader after Mohammed is a fake. They believe Mohammed was the "seal of the Prophets". Friendship with manmukhs leades to vikar: ਮਨਮੁਖ ਸੇਤੀ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਥੋੜੜਿਆ ਦਿਨ ਚਾਰਿ ॥ The friendship with the apostates lasts only for a short period of four days. ਇਸੁ ਪਰੀਤੀ ਤੁਟਦੀ ਵਿਲਮੁ ਨ ਹੋਵਈ ਇਤੁ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਚਲਨਿ ਵਿਕਾਰ ॥ No delay occurs in the breaking of this affection and this friendship leads to many sins. p587
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What you are saying is true: ਅਹਿ ਕਰੁ ਕਰੇ ਸੁ ਅਹਿ ਕਰੁ ਪਾਏ ਕੋਈ ਨ ਪਕੜੀਐ ਕਿਸੈ ਥਾਇ ॥੩॥ "In this age, one who does with this hand, receives the same with then other hand. None is apprehend in place of another." p406 But it's in relation to people in general. Sikhi also teaches us not to be friends with people who hate Satguru. Muslims (if they are following their religion) inherently think that any religious leader after Mohammed is a fake. They believe Mohammed was the "seal of the Prophets". Friendship with manmukhs leades to vikar: ਮਨਮੁਖ ਸੇਤੀ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਥੋੜੜਿਆ ਦਿਨ ਚਾਰਿ ॥ The friendship with the apostates lasts only for a short period of four days. ਇਸੁ ਪਰੀਤੀ ਤੁਟਦੀ ਵਿਲਮੁ ਨ ਹੋਵਈ ਇਤੁ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਚਲਨਿ ਵਿਕਾਰ ॥ No delay occurs in the breaking of this affection and this friendship leads to many sins. p587
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What did I just watch?? He's a kesadhari bro who loves to be surround by girls in bikinis. He quotes a tuk of Guru Tegh Bahadur ji translated as: The world is just a hill of smoke, what makes you think it was real? p1186 But the shabad goes on to say to worship God with devotion: ਇਕ ਭਗਤਿ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ ਹੋਇ ਸੰਗਿ ॥ The Lord's meditation alone shall depart with thee; ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਭਜੁ ਤਿਹ ਏਕ ਰੰਗਿ ॥੩॥੪॥ Says Nanak, remember thou Him with pure love. The music video of "Air Singh" is basically pure Maya, not what the shabad is saying. I mean, if he's into girls in bikinis, to each his own, but why quote Guru Tegh Bahadur ji in the video?
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The usual problem is people stay for 5 minutes after the start of the Akhand Paath and then come 5 minutes before the Bhog. It is disrespect for the institution of Akhand Paath. In the old times, the entire pind would sit for as much of the Akand Paath as they could. These days, you have have multiple Akand Paaths going on at the same time and you have the ridiculous situation of people accidentally matha-teking to the "wrong" Akhand Paath when they come in to the Gurdwara.
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Goras have started to give up processed foods, refined oils, refined grains, fast food, preservatives, seed oils like palm and canola, and so on. Punjabis are stupid, so first they have to go through that stage, and only later will they notice that goras have given that stuff up. So now, Punjabis are going through the Yisu Masih phase. All the missionaries have to do is write a single line such as "ਰੱਬ ਨੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਇਕਲੌਤਾ ਪੁੱਤਰ ਕੁਰਬਾਨ ਕੀਤਾ ਤਾਂ ਜੋ ਹਰ ਕੋਈ ਜੋ ਉਹਦੇ ਤੇ ਯਕੀਨ ਕਰੇ, ਸਦੀਵੀ ਜੀਵਨ ਜੀ ਸਕੇ" (For God gave his only begotten Son so that anyone who believes in him could live an everlasting life.) And Punjabis are so dumb, they'll just believe that and not bother to read the rest of the missionary's Bible, even though it's printed in Punjabi!
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That may very well be, but the point is the trend is down (whatever meaning that people take for "identifying" as Christian, that number is down). So if the true number of "real" Christians is even smaller, that contributes to their feeling that if their fellow goras won't believe, then why don't we fund efforts to fool blacks and Indians/Punjabis into believing that stuff?
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Again, this is not allowed in our culture for the very simple reason that it encourages sexual attention towards young women in the village. In our traditional culture, young women are protected because the men of that village don't give them any sexual attention. I know that you're thinking with your little brain, but think for a moment: Would you want to live in a society where young women are free of sexual attention or in a society where they are constantly fending off such attention? If the former, then live your own life accordingly.
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Agreed. Christianity in the US is going down and "none" is going up: A minority pray every day: As goras give up Christianity, they are funding efforts to push it on us and Africa.
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The thing is, it's not just that. If you visit Punjab, you'll see posters for Christian preachers with Punjabi Jatt last names. The irony is that Christianity is dying in the West because people are reading the Bible and realizing that it doesn't make sense. I.e., the Old Testament is God telling the Israelites to slaughter their enemies. The New Testament gospels conflict with each other. And if you read it carefully, it provides the basis for the gora's killing and colonization of non-European lands. For example, Luke 19:27 where Jesus says "And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me." While he says this in the context of a parable, he relates the parable of a returning king at the same time that he himself is returning to Jerusalem and people think he's the King of the Jews and the Kingdom is coming. Because of an inferiority complex, Punjabis have to put on the discarded shoes and tattered clothes of the goras.
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I don't know exactly how they are doing simran at that Gurdwara. But I'll agree that we all need to be less cult-like. By that, I mean the idea that "my little Sikh group" is going to Sachkhand and every other Sikh is going to Narak (hell). A little bit of tolerance for a bit of diversity in Rehras length, etc., would be a good thing. There are a lot of little groups which think that only they have the secret Nam Simran recipe and no one else even knows about mediation. They're wrong. Some people will post that the Nihangs are the only Sikh group and all the others are fakes. Even if that's true, the Nihangs fight amongst themselves. So that's cult-like as well.
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This seems in alignment with some other people who have said that Jats did not originally dance bhangra. Rather, it they invited people from the Kanjar tribe to dance for them at harvest time. Later, Jats took up the dance themselves. Whether this is fully accurate or not is not something I know for sure.
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Agreed. This is the highest Panth (path). ਇਕੁ ਉਤਮ ਪੰਥੁ ਸੁਨਿਓ ਗੁਰ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਤਿਹ ਮਿਲੰਤ ਜਮ ਤ੍ਰਾਸ ਮਿਟਾਈ ॥ ik utam panth suniō gur sangat tih milant jam trās mitāī . I have heard that the Guru's Congregation alone is the sublime Path, adhering to which, the fear of death is shed. p1405 Yeah. It was the wily Brits who destroyed (or attempted to) our warrior spirit. They are the ones who hatched the conspiracies against Dasam Granth Sahib. They were afraid of our tall, manly soldiers. So they wanted to make us into a Panth of quietists, like Jains or Buddhists something. The one time that tears fell from the Sarkar-e-Khalsa army was when Sikhs were forced to give up their 3 foot Kirpans to the goras. Maharaj praises arms as God because they are for helping the weak. "Saif sarohi saihthi, yahai hamarai pir". Imagine giving up your weapon to the tobacco-smoking invaders. Later on, the British "allowed" Sikhs to wear symbolic Kirpans of a few inches. Build muscle. Memorize Gurbani (both Guru Granth Sahib ji and Dasam Granth Sahib). Both of those things (Miri and Piri), not just one.
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Yes. But I and that poster on Twitter are not making this stuff up. All he's saying is what Guru Hargobind Ji taught us. Again, it is not to do bad things with your physical power. It is to have the physical power to do good. And that's not the job of women. Sure, they should be healthy. But they can never be as muscle-bound as men. So brothers need to get off their sofas and build some muscle. Here's how Maharaj starts the Bachittar Natak, his autobiography, with a paean to the Khanda: ਖਗ ਖੰਡ ਬਿਹੰਡੰ ਖਲਦਲ ਖੰਡੰ ਅਤਿ ਰਣ ਮੰਡੰ ਬਰਬੰਡੰ ॥ Khga Khaanda Bihaandaan Khladala Khaandaan Ati Ran Maandaan Barbaandaan ॥ The sword chops well, chops the forces of fools and this mighty one bedecks and glorifies the battlefield. ਭੁਜ ਦੰਡ ਅਖੰਡੰ ਤੇਜ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡੰ ਜੋਤਿ ਅਮੰਡੰ ਭਾਨੁ ਪ੍ਰਭੰ ॥ It is the unbreakable staff of the arm, it has the powerful luster and its light even bedims the radiance of the sum. ਸੁਖ ਸੰਤਾ ਕਰਣੰ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਦਰਣੰ ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਹਰਣੰ ਅਸਿ ਸਰਣੰ ॥ It brings happiness to the saints, mashing the vicious ones, it is the destroyer of sins and I and under its refuge. ਜੈ ਜੈ ਜਗ ਕਾਰਣ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਬਾਰਣ ਮਮ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਰਣ ਜੈ ਤੇਗੰ ॥੨॥ Hail, hail to the cause of the world, saviour of the universe, it is my preserver, I hail its victory. 2. ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਅ. ੧ - ੨/(੪) - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ OK, so how are you going to pick up a Khanda without muscles? Those things are heavy! Secondly, note in the 3rd verse that the purpose is to bring happiness to the Saints. Not Nihangs killing Nihangs.
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You're welcome. madhur bachan tāhī rasnā sai pyārō lāgai kaurak sabad sun lāgai ur bān sō . Just as sweet words uttered by tongue feel loving to the ears, but bitter words said with the same tongue hurt like arrow. Bhai Gurdas ji, Kabit 644 Olden Singhs used to share everything. Rehitnama says Sikhs are not to kill another Sikh. Rehitnama says not to have a poor Sikh sleep on the floor while you sleep on a cot.
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Just for further clarification, Kazi Nur Mohammed, in writing about the Sikhs, whom he calls sag (dogs), says that they had chests like hillocks. Compare that to the average flat-chested Sikh man of today (in the West). Secondly, the old Singhs used to memorize Gurbani. They didn't have YouTube to do Rehras. Or Nitnem. Rehatnama says: "Doou Granth meh bani joee Chun chun kanth kare nith soee" The bani in both Granths Choose and memorize it constantly So the old Sikhs had both physical form and love for Gurbani. They were neither wimps nor meatheads.
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No, bro, that's not my vision. What I'd like is for the quam to do what Guru ji wanted us to do. That's a combination of spirituality and love for Gubani, physical strength and weapons, and appreciation for learning, literature and poetry. These are the qualities of Guru Gobind SIngh ji. The Mahankosh notes how many ser (quantity of weight) was required to pull Guru Gobind Singh ji's bow. It was an insane amount. Guru ji didn't create a bunch of wimps. Again, just having physical strength without Gurbani will lead people in the wrong direction.
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News - Sikhs involved in money laudering and ppl smuggling
BhForce replied to Kau89r8's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
I'm wondering when the National Crime Agency says they were busted for "immigration crime" it means that they were bringing over Afghan Sikhs in return for cash money. If so, it's really hard for me to condemn them. I mean, at the same time that European countries were welcoming a million Muslims pretending to be refugees and allowing them to take over London and also refusing Afghan Sikhs passage. -
Bro, how does it help to denigrate her? Secondly, what is it she said that you think is wrong? She said physically fit masculine men are gravitating towards Islam. We might not want that to be true, but it is. Instead of giving a possible answer, you just call her names. The fact is, we as Sikhs have become far too weak. Props to the sister for calling out Sikh men for being wimps. This isn't what Dasmesh ji taught us to do.