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Do that: http://www.4shared.com/zip/qwLcUQo4/workoutstuff.html Give it a few weeks to a month at max to really notice stuff.

I havn't ate bread in years, high glycemic index carbs esp. grains are really the things you should limit. Take that out and get enough protein and you're all good.

Yogurt like dehi if you strain it, it's called 'greek' yogurt.

Yo, I wrote it fast, help me edit? I sent a one dollar cheque, with certain legal language and it paid for $1800.

Sorry could this thread please be moved to gupt, or whats happening as I just realized public can't see it.

Ok, as a few people on here know I've been studying law and made myself immune to prosecution. Finding ways to spread this easily to the quom didn't fan out, so I immediately went to tackle the financial issue as I know that is the other thing enslaving us. Chain on your neck and pocket book. Now, http://public.worldfreemansociety.org/index.php/forum/49-banking/111397-a4v-success-process-changes-nu-metod-non-a4v?start=6#120754 That's me making the thread, in the op I list the guy who said it. Might be the easiest way instead of a way called Accept 4 Value which is dealing with gov. revenue agencies but I'll try it with a few tickets I have left lying around. Basic steps: 1. Wrote cheque for 1 dollar 2. In memo wrote payment in full for account ______________ settlement on account ___________ 3. Sent 4. Wait 5. Called in today as it showed up as cashed, balance was 1800 and unpaid for about a year as I was learning. Guy said it now 0, will post written proof into that thread, and here. ----------------------- The law stuff simple breakdown for Canada: s.32 of charter & r v dell 2005 confirm that charter only applies to gov. not private citizens s. 52 & r v big drug mart 1986 confirm that any statute inconsistent with that (i,e applying to you) is of no force and effect. R V JAH a uk case, confirms that the monarch has violated oath and no courts in her name are of any standing (less researched by me atm) Procedure would be to hand crown letter stating the above, and your status i.e Sui juris (fully competent i.e cant be made ward), can add I am your father luke, etc. troll them as they can't respond. Then would be to swear affidavit that they submit to your word, as silence = submission. Then file motion to dismiss. I did this after I got a false case slapped for getting into the face of a local TAVIS (special guns, gang task force for my area) staff sergeant. Needless to say he was surprised when 1. I wasn't scared 2. I won the case 3. Now, since I have funds I'm taking his house through liens. --- Law is based on these 10 maxims too long to link here but ask lawyers they will confirm they are taught this. http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/01/24/ten-commercial-maxims-jack-harper Now, go be free my brothers and sisters I feel this is part of what guru ji meant when guru ji said learn politics. Please spread this information far and wide and feel free to hit me up by pm or: 266f948c I'll give other communication methods by pm as Idc if I get randoms on bbm because I might be switching to a q10 anyway if I'm going hard on this, and need a keyboard for communication. VJKVJF|| Humble request that you use this money to buy shastar as 'Raj bina neh Dharam chale hain Dharam bina sab dale male hain' 'shastar k adheen hai raaj' - Guru Gobind Singh Ji KHALISTAN ZINDABAD|| Btw, I'm only mona cuz I don't have paggs from india my hair is curly and if I pull, it's past my shoulders. I have every intention of dying after I take amrit as that is the only thing that feels horrible to me to be away from guru ji, especially in my last 'temporal' moments. Please don't argue or ask about that, as this information is VIP can free them singhs in India they may shoot everyone involved after but it'll mean no more fake cases and many other things which NSA shouldn't get to see.

Khalistan was inevitable, Bhutto gave up the names of all the leaders and they were targetted. Even the massacre of the entire generation of that time didn't do anything. Negotiations were going on, when at bluestar 20-40 singhs killed 700+ (rajiv gandhi) how could India ever win? "Shastar k adheen hai raaj" - Guru Gobind Singh Ji That's my only commentary on how far this social media and stuff can go, I feel like the only problem is at this point the panth is letting India press it into further action instead of taking action in accordance with our religion's Two and a half point strikes doctrine. -- I'm still hesitant to discuss any sikh issues with relatives back home over the phone, etc. and keep low contact because I know they may be targeted. The war is still raging but is on espionage levels now, the disappearances of human rights activists, drug flooding, etc. Remember that youtube, and facebook can easily be shut down massively. Short wave radio, maybe bbm (since gov will use it), p2p email, etc are the only reliable form of communication. Pigeons as well. I've heard India Gov. asked for bbm hack codes, but I know pin 2 pin messaging is still secure but bb10 might be better for it since if everything is going through BIS bbm india will give up info but bb10 can move this to wifi, using burner sims can also work since 2g data plans are less than 50 a month there which is a dollar. Punjab still has better infrastrucure such as education than from where most of the CRPF recruits will be coming from and we must use this. A technologically equipped soldier even if it's just a cellphone will be a hard thing for them to track/counter. America has curve's brand new from carriers for uner $70 and Idk anything else that has stronger security/messaging cap. for the price. Please some other people give other suggestions, because even though I've dealt with Ios/droid I've used mostly BB and am on Z10 now. ---- We need to do parchaar of what Sikhi is to youth though, in Canada it seems that even though many youth support Khalistan it's more of a I'm a gangster Punjabi, pride thing rather than an inherent knowledge of Khalistan and the issues. Better they do support, but I question how many of them will actually sacrifice or do anything meaningful besides stuffing the golak though. Then again, these things are not in my hands but Akal purakhs. Agaya pai akal ki, tabhi chalaio panth|| :D VJKVJF||

What kind of politics? Fact is, across the commonwealth there is the same law and these statutes don't have to be followed. Supreme courts uphold that, so being in these fake games to change slave statuses destroys spirtual growth. Standing up for the panth, is a santsipahi duty and is essential to spirtual growth. edit - And of course the one representing the temporal or temporary world would be smaller, than the one representing eternity. It also means dharam always comes before raaj, meaning our dharam raaj is the only one we recognize.

Where I'm from, that's incest. Keep it four gotras away, and you're good. I'd probably even avoid marrying in Dosanjh, Malhi, Dhillon, and Dhindsa since I know we have a common origin from Chittorgarh from pretty recently. That's just me, I been through all that love stuff but the love for the quom, the panth, and the guru is greater. When you can choose what girl you marry why choose one you're related to? :S

The logic behind the law is the genocide of the sikh quom. India was facing famine from the 60s-80s and was only saved by the heavily subsidized USA grain program whose name I forgot. India has less calories available per person than any African nation. South Asia has always been the nation of famine, they give haryana all the heavy industry licenses since it is 90% hindu. The only thing being built in Punjab is light machinery, and bicycles they don't want heavy industry in a sepratist state where they can easily build firearms. It's weird too, we were the only ones too industrialize as you know, and would more than likely not know english if our generals weren't bought out. Pathans also wouldn't be calling themselves superheroes.. :D I apologize for being rude before, and that long reply wasn't mine . I don't take a lot of time atm, to talk to a lot of people from the other side of the 'border' but it seems a lot of youth are just told they're muslim and that's that (in Canada). This alvi guy didn't know what Punjab, jatt anything was. He said he's from Canada, but is Pakistani but his parents are both from the 'Punjab part' of Pakistan. Lyallpur, and Lahore I think. I'm like :s lol. I could see if someone actually spent time talking to these youth they would wear dastaar, so far in Canada only people I've seen trying to build some Islamic anything are Somalis and even then there's other reasons for it. I really don't like that decent people are caught up in this hate everyone else thing.

Idk about pandit, etc but this stuff does happen spirtual powers can be used for good and bad. Pryaag in Assam is the center of all this, what about belli system? Water used to take a kid and calm down afterwards, so don't dismiss this guy right away. Sikh asking a pandit who has studied many things is one thing, pandit doesnt have to mean going to mandir etc. but ask the pandit what's going on, nothing wrong with getting info and then decide your course of action. At a certain stage from all these things, aka the negative spirtual plane, you literally just think Guru Kay Sikh don't live in that realm and it puts you into calm state and you are out of there but until then you can be in a bind. I've had a dead relative haunt my family, and my pind had a well that spoke and took a child. Whether people here think it stupid or not, this stuff is real I won't go into more details but I'd tell guy to see if you really been 'dumped' then take it like a man but those pandits don't really lie about this stuff, esp. if they not taking money.

It's incest.

Problem isn't infrastructure, Sikh Punjab is mostly farming; sikhs have only increased from 15 % to 20% in urban areas since 47. Farming is becoming less viable due to government policies like not letting Sikhs sell crops out of state, which are some of main issues pertaining to independence of Sikh nation. Only reason land hasn't been further subdivided is because of murder of generation born during 70s by Indian gov. 10-20 years after that.

The dicionary definition of a belief is something used to cover up a doubt. I said I don't believe in anything, as I know it exists there is a difference. A belief can be changed, knowledge only comes off with your head. You can set up fake panj pyare, it is after all an institution you need to do more research into what the Khalsa Panth is, what negative comments? I don't have self-hate, so how would I make negative comments about my quom? I think you forget what sharda is and get so caught up in this robotic ritual stuff that you treat a non-amritdhari like a dog. VJKVJF|| Doesn't matter anyway, mal if you're new to sikhi shout less. Rehat, look up rehat where it says meat is ok. Brother, please then get enough protein I want my family to be strong. If you take dehi and strain it through a cloth the result is very rich in protein. Cool, cool if anything 'super-natrual' means Im disturbed then don't go to gurudawara Panja sahib or anywhere else you rational scientific minded Sikh.

The akal takht at this moment is another government building when it is freed we can talk these things. Many Sikhs deserted and went to nandred sahib and are still there, know a few.. Look at Punjab Police force same thing happened with army, 65% were Sikhs. I wouldn't doubt if a sizeable minority did attack but tbh nothing will happen until our rule. KPS Gill hasn't been excommunicated others are a small thing.

My reply is not showing up, all I have to say is Amrit is not a commitment to the guru, it is the next evolution of man.. lol. VJKVJF|| Maybe because I never logged in but it asked for a code and I entered that plus my name maybe it thinks I'm impersonating myself. Could an admin fix that? He and a few others should read it.

We can keep going finding more gurudawaras fact is, you use the word believe a sikh should not belive anything as that indicates blind obdience. Why do you think guru ji took amrit as well? What if a gurudawara was corrupt and had fake panj pyare do you blindly go by w.e Akal takht as well says it's cool. Thing is, without swearing, I have to inform you that sikhi is for all humanity and this line you draw between amrit and not amrit is up to guruji to draw not you. Not on some liberal love everyone stuff, but with that mentality well a muslim will be more saintly than you. You also mention punishments, indicating that sikhi for this mentality comes from the head not the heart. Oo I'll get punished, fact is when u have sharda, vaheguru keeps even opportunities to commit kurehit away from you. Are you really afraid of some old man whipping you, or being excommunited from thebpanth? As the truth is thenonly thing that matters. Remember that the khalsa has to run the panth, It is blatantly obvious from guru nank dev ji but beside that I'm done. Will you be a leader in the panth or follow? This site is also a lot of akj no? That would change what people say, and sikhs asscoiating with it would have dif. Experiences. I offered a lot of evidence, it's a sign of a believer to ignor evidence and continue talking, not a sikh. Not offering advice, defending my panth. I'd use daas instead of I but kb slow, real talks yo, eat meat, get strong, give shahadat, and get khalistan that's advice. If rehat given is different and is veggie talk to five and change it. Guru is not be feared, remember that fear is opposite of love, which is all sikhi is. VJKVJF

Take a deep breath. Now, the worst that can happen is you can die (physically, in this illusion, w.e) Now what's happened, and what have you been diagnosed with? Furthermore, what do you think is wrong? Don't panic, don't type quickly even if it takes you weeks to type the post, take your time; we're all here for you, and waiting to help you. VJKVJF

I have no slave mentality, our rehat is no kutha meat. There are stories of 1st master eating meat to show bramins their foolery, another of being offered meat of deer by follower and not rejecting it. His words to the bramins are spoken again and again by SGGS. 6th master was known to hunt, and even hunted lions to show rajputs how to cook and eat them. 10th master told singhs to hunt their own eat, and do jhatka to counter muslim government. Many sikhs who follow purataan maryada still hunt. -- Meat was served in langar until 2nd or third master when followers of vishnu complained they can't eat there and since then it was veggie diet to serve all. When harimandir sahib was taken back, the degh of muslims had bogh done and was eaten by sikhs (abdali times). -- I have not taken Amrit. If go to a certain 'sect' and they tell you that ok, but Sikhi has nothing for or against meat. It is pointless to argue over diet spirtually, there is basis of tamogan, rajgon, etc. or w.e but that has no relevance to your code. --- Even alcohol can be used as medicine, if you deny that it was/is Idk what to tell you.. VJKVJF|| edit - http://www.historicalgurudwaras.com/India/Haryana/Kurukshetra/GurudwaraShriSidhVitiPatshahiPehli/gallery.php Eating goat right now.

Yes, because tribal chiefs are typically government stooges/appointed and normally have much more white blood than the average tribe. Most, natives live on reserves where they have wooden shacks in the middle of winter (plywood), no running water, hospitals availible by helicoptor, and no known roads. Quebec up till a year or two had separate licenses for northern quebec because the reserves there had not one single road connecting it with Canada. 4/5 canadians live within 150km of the Canadian border, There's native communities who have 30+ attempted suicides in a population of 400; in one year google the one where they declare an emergency. --- These goras attempt to rule over a kingdom of blood, does that sound familiar? Only word I have for Canada is four letter and f. Before the high horse of enjoy benefits, etc I'll stop you. Injunction of rights is not worth any benefit. I won't even argue with you, if that's your mentality.

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Btw, I don't think you know the extent of scythian tribes I suggest you research this. Also: And here: I do like to cross-dress, I learn well from my Pakistani brothers; "At the outset I want to record that you all must love me very much as you have decided not to take over my property in Swat unlike those you have taken over of other landed families. I am therefore emboldened to believe that I have the privilege of sharing some historical facts for you to know about and I urge you to absorb the same before you continue your campaign of moral policing, especially when it comes to the manner of dressing and code of conduct for women. The Sikh army of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, under the leadership of Hari Singh Nalwa came to the Frontier in the 1820's and swiftly conquered our ancestors. It is the only time in recorded history that our people were ruled over by foreigners. The locals were so utterly terrified of the Sikh army that they used to hide every time the Sikhs came into view. Those that decided to resist were met with ruthlessness. During this time, the word was spread around that the Sikhs did not harm elderly people, women and children and that the local men who did not wish to earn wrath of the Sikhs should wear the garb of Punjabi women, which was the Salwar-Kameez. At that time in our history both men and women alike, wore only a single-robe garment (similar to that worn by the Arabs) and the Sikhs would not harm any man either when wearing the Salwar-Kameez. So you see, our men happily adopted the garb of Punjabi women since they were too terrified to stand up and they have adopted the garb as being theirs' ever since. I am very intrigued to see that you are following in the footsteps of your ancestors by wearing the adopted Punjabi women's garb as your own, but now go around preaching and coercing our women as to how they should be living their lives! I suggest that take a deep look inside yourselves, given this historical perspective." Sincerely, Miangul Aurangzeb, Wali of Swat (Source: Nishaan, Swat: Sanctuary for the Sikhs, III/2009, New Delhi: Nagaara Trust, p. 45)

Here: I mean losing side as in bluestar was 45 vs 10,000 Chamkaur was 48 vs 1million/200,000 By that estimate, hindus are 20-100 times stronger than muslims. You are a Sikh. You can marry even 1 month old..not unexpected. Wrong. Sikhs oppose pedophilia and pedophiles. Guess which religion was founded by a 54 year old man that had sex with a 9year old child called Aisha. You like cross dressing? Well, go to some Gurudwara then... From the Sahih Collection of al-Bukhari, Hadith Number 2442 Chapter 52. Book of Setting Free, VII: The one who gave a gift to his friend aiming for a time when he was with one of his wives rather than another. It is related from 'A'isha that the wives of the messenger of Allah fell into two parties. One party contained 'A'isha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sawda, and the other party contained Umm Salama and the rest of the wives of the messenger of Allah. The Muslims knew of the love of the messenger of Allah for 'A'isha, so when any of them had a gift which he wanted to give to the messenger of Allah he would delay it until the messenger of Allah was in 'A'isha's house. Then the person with the gift would send it to the messenger of Allah while he was in 'A'isha's house. The party of Umm Salama spoke about it and said to her, "Tell the messenger of Allah to speak to the people and say, 'Whoever wants to give a gift to the messenger of Allah should give it to him in the house of whichever wife he is.'" Umm Salama spoke to him about what they had said, but he did not say anything. They asked her and she said, "He did not say anything to me." They said to her, "Speak to him." She said she spoke to him when he went around to her as well, but he did not say anything to her. They asked her and she said, “He did not say anything to me.” They said to her, “Speak to him until he speaks to you.” He went around to her and she spoke to him. He said to her, “Do not injure me regarding 'A'isha. The revelation does not come to me when I am in the GARMENT of any woman except 'A'isha.” She said, "I repent to Allah from injuring you, Messenger of Allah.” Then they called Fatima, the daughter of the messenger of Allah, and sent her to the messenger of Allah to say, “Your wives ask you by Allah for fairness regarding the daughter of Abu Bakr.” She spoke to him and he said, “O my daughter, do you not love what I love?” She said, “Yes indeed.” She returned to them and informed them. They said, “Go back to him,” but she refused to go back. They sent Zaynab bint Jahsh and she went to him and spoke harshly, saying. “Your wives ask you by Allah for fairness regarding the daughter of ibn Abi Quhafa.” She raised her voice until she turned to 'A'isha, who was sitting down, and abused her until the messenger of Allah looked at 'A'isha to see if she would speak. ‘A'isha spoke to answer back Zaynab until she had silenced her. She said, “The prophet looked at 'A'isha and said, ‘She is indeed the daughter of Abu Bakr.’” Tell that Sikh regiment to first free khalistan from hindus...wait, never mind...same sikh regiment butchered Bhindrawale at Golden temple...they can't even protect their own sacred places. Pathetic attempt to imply that Sikhs are weak. We won’t forget those who hates Sikhs in Delhi and Pakistan. Bhai Sukha Singh And Bhai Mehtab Singh After the invasion of Nadir Shah and acting on his advice Nawab Zakaria Khan decided to totally exterminate the Sikh community once for all. To achieve this objective, he issued instructions to his officials and to village heads to kill or arrest alive Sikhs, wherever and whenever found. He also announced cash rewards of Rupees ten, fifty and eighty respectively for informers, killers and arresters of the Sikhs. As a result of these orders of Zakaria Khan, the Governor of Lahore (now in Pakistan) thousands of Sikhs, men, women and children were killed and arrested without any rhyme or reason. The notorious village heads and officials who carried out the orders of the Governor to gain his favours were Karma of village Chheena, Rama Randhawa of village Talwandi, Sahib Rai Sandhu of village Naushehra Dhaala, Har Bhagat Niranjania of village Jandiala, Dharam Das Topi of Jodhnagar and village heads of villages Naushehdra Punuan and Majitha. They sent cart loads of heads of Sikhs to Lahore, in addition to thousands arrested and sent to Lahore for execution in a merciless manner publicly in Lahore daily. They even killed women and presented their heads for reward. Massa Ranghar, the village head of Mandially exceeded all limits and behaved in a most hated, mischievous and offensive manner, hurting religious sentiments of Sikhs, after he was handed over charge of Sri Darbar Sahib (Golden Temple), in Amritsar. The premises was captured earlier by the Governement forces. He used parikarma of the premises as stable for horses and main Hall of holy Golden Temple as a Dancing Room. He would seat himself on a beautiful cot (Palang), smoke hukka and watch prostitutes dancing in the main hall of the most sacred place of the Sikh community. Around the building he had posted armed guards to prevent entry of anyone and everyone without permission. Due to persecution in Punjab the Sikhs had moved to hills, Jungles, ravines and deserts. One such group (Jatha) of Sikhs was temporarily camping near Jaipur City in Rajasthan. Some-one communicated to them the sad news of desecration of Harimandir Sahib at Amritsar. The heart rendering account of misdeeds of Massa Ranghar sent shock waves through the hearts of all the sikhs present there. One among them, Bhai Mehtab Singh immediately jumped to his feet and volunteered himself to punish the culprit Massa Rangar forthwith. He announced that he would serve the head of the wretched Massa in Amritsar and bring it back in Jaipur to show the same to all Sikhs present here. Another Sikh named Bhai Sukha Singh volunteered to accompany Mehtab Singh, to help him accomplish the sacred task. Both were granted permission by the Jatha chief and an ardas was held for the success of their mission. Both Bhai Sukha Singh and Bhai Mehtab Singh immediately proceeded towards Amritsar and arrived there in the month of August, 1740. They put on the garbs of village chaudharies and carried with them a bag full of well ground pieces of broken earthen wared and thus it appeared that the bag was full of coins. They straightway headed for Harmandir Sahib. On arriving there, they told the guards who checked their entry into the premises that they were village heads and had come to deposit land revenue with Massa Ranghar. Thus they managed to befool the guards and gained entry to Harimandir Sahib. They tied their horses with a tree near the entrance of the Harimandir Sahib now reveredly known as Lachi Ber and proceeded further. They found Massa Ranghar sitting on his cot fully intoxicated, smoking Hukka and watching dancing prostitutes. The scene enraged them. Bhai Sukha Singh remained near the door of main hall while Bhai Mahtab Singh went inside. He threw the bag under Massa’s cot and said, “ Here is land revenue.” Massa Rangar happily bent down to pick up the bag supposed to be full of coins. Bhai Mehtab Singh drew out his sword swiftly and with its single blow, cut off the head of Massa Rangar. Those present inside were stunned by the sudden development and ran helter shelter. In the meantime the two brave Sikhs took away the severed head of Massa Rangar, rode their horses and vanished from the scene before the guards could recover and realise what had happened inside Harimandir Sahib. They went straight to Jaipur showed Massa’s severed head to their Jathedar and othe colleagues there by redeeming their pledge. When Zakaria Khan, the Governor of Lahore, came to know of murder of Mass Rangar his anger knew no bounds. He immediately summoned village heads of all villages around Amritsar and ordered them to find out and arrest the culprits forthwith. Harbhagat Niranjania suspected it to be the handi-work of Bhai Mehtab Singh of Minarkot village. He told Zakaria Khan about his suspicion. Noorudin Faujdar, proceeded to Mirankot village accompanied by a band of soldiers with orders to arrest Bhai Mehtab Singh. Bhai Mehtab Singh was not present at his home but his infant son, Rai Singh was there. While leaving the village, Bhai Mehtab Singh had left his son in the safe custody of a noble person and his friend Natha Khaira. When Natha Khaira came to know of arrival of Govt. soldiers for arresting Bhai Mehtab Singh, he escaped from the village accompanied by Mehtab Singh’s son Rai Singh with the help of his friends. Nooruddin Faujdar come to know of the escape of the child Rai Singh and hotly pursued Natha’s party and caught up with the escapes. Natha and his trusted friends put up a brave fight and died fighting. The child Rai Singh was also gravely injured. Taking the child as dead, the Govt. soldiers went away. A kind woman passing that way happened to notice the child who was still alive. She took the child home and with her care and proper treatment the child recovered from the injuries fully. Five years later, in 1745 A.D., Bhai Mehtab Singh visited his village home to see his son. He was arrested with the help of some informer. He was brought to Lahore. Zakaria Khan ordered his execution through a most dreadful method. Bhai Mehtab Singh was put on the Charkhari (Consisting of two wheels fitted with sharp nails). The Charkhari (the two wheels) was rotated and the body of Bhai Mehtab Singh was cut by the iron nails fitted on the wheels, bit by bit. Thus Bhai Mehtab Singh was put to death in a brutal manner, but he was happy to lay down his life with the satisfaction that the desecration of the Sacred Harimandir Sahib had been avenged by him by the killing of Massa Ranghar. Bhai Sukha Singh attained his martyrdom in 1753 while fighting the Mughal army on the banks of the river Ravi. By his action, he proved that Sikhs do not tolerate desecration of their holy places and hold sancity of their holy places more dear than their lives. Islam is often described as fastest spreading major religion by many...fastest dying? Yeah right...dream on..what else you can do? The more people learn about the Quran and Muhammad the more people leave it secretly Indians spit on sikhs? Spit on their holy sites? I feel sorry for you. But in Pakistan, nothing like that happens.... Yeah Indians might spit but in Pakistan a quarter of the Sikh population living there in 1947 gets killed. And yeah..Muslims were handed defeat and were manipulated thats why Muslims ruled india for 1000 years..and then divided India into 3 states...two Muslim-majority, one hindu majority...and even in hindu majority part...hundreds of millions of Muslims live....lol Weird how you celebrate your Hindu ancestors being converted by the sword of Aurangzeb and others into Islam Ever wondered why there were no Christians in Arabian peninsula before immigration and European arrival? lol.... Then why did Prophet Muhamad own many slaves from a Christian background. Khadija one of Muhammad’s multiple wives and slavegirls even had a Christian cousin herself even though she was from the Qureshi caste too. Can you explain how am I on the 'losing end'? Please, explain. If you convince me, I'll probably jump to the other - winning - side... Interesting that you don’t believe in Islam because of the moral greatness of a paedophile or slaveowner but support Islam only because you see it as the winning side. btw, the very fact you have to say this again and again shows that you are hopeless..hopeless like all other anti-Islamic forces..You know that you are just utterly unable to stop the march of Islam... The Quran and Muhammad’s life (in which he had sex with a 9year old Aisha) stop any march of Islam dead in the water. Top 10 Controversial Verses in the Qur'an From WikiIslam, the online resource on Islam Jump to: navigation, search As the title suggests, this page lists the top 10 most controversial verses found within the Qur'an. This page is simply an overview, it does not deal with the apologetic objections that have been brought forth in recent times by a minority number of Western apologists. Articles dealing with any such objections are linked below their corresponding verses. [edit] 10. "Beat Them" This verse advises men to beat their wives if they don't obey them: "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great." Qur'an 4:34 Qur'an 5:38 orders cutting of hands of a thief. See related: Wife Beating in Islam and Beat your Wives or "Separate from Them"? (Qur'an 4:34) [edit] 9. "Cut off their hands" This verse orders a gruesome irreversible punishment for thieves, robbing them of a chance to rehabilitate, improve as human beings and become a productive member of society later on. As an example, Terrence Barkley got arrested on his 16th birthday for stealing cars but interestingly that resulted in him getting out of gangs and into college to study criminal justice at the University of Central Missouri.[1] If Terrence's hands and feet had been cut off according to Islamic laws, none of this would have been possible. As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. It is the reward of their own deeds, an exemplary punishment from Allah. Allah is Mighty, Wise." Qur'an 5:38 Sura 5:33 orders the cutting off of the hands and feet of those who wage war against Allah and his Messenger. The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; Qur'an 5:33 See related: Amputation. For other punishments in Islam, see: Punishments [edit] 8. A man may marry four wives This verse allows a man to marry up to four wives: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. Qur'an 4:3 Polygamy is highly controversial and not socially accepted in most parts of the modern world. See related: Polygamy [edit] 7. A man can marry a girl who hasn't reached puberty This highly controversial Qur'anic verse prescribes the waiting period of a female who has not yet reached puberty thereby permitting men to have sex with girls who have not reached puberty: "Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy." Qur'an 65:4 Read the detailed analysis of this verse in our article: Pedophilia in the Qur'an [edit] 6. A man can have sex with prisoners of war This verse allows men to have sex with women who are prisoners of war: "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Qur'an 33:50 See related: Rape in Islam Qur'an 2:65 mentions that Jews who broke the Sabbath were turned into Apes. [edit] 5. Turned into Apes People who broke the Sabbath were turned into apes: "And you know well the story of those among you who broke Sabbath. We said to them: "Be apes—despised and hated by all. Thus We made their end a warning to the people of their time and succeeding generation, and an admonition for God-fearing people." Qur'an 2:65 See related: Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Islamic Silliness and Islamic Antisemitism [edit] 4. A man may marry the wife of his adopted son Muhammad married Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son. This verse suggests that the adopter may marry the wife of his adopted son and vice-versa: "Allah has not made for any man two hearts within him; nor has He made your wives whose backs you liken to the backs of your mothers as your mothers, nor has He made those whom you assert to be your sons your real sons; these are the words of your mouths; and Allah speaks the truth and He guides to the way." Qur'an 33:4 See related: Concerns with Islam: Adoption 2:282 and Qur'an 4:11 declare that a woman is only half the worth of a man in terms of witness and inheritance. [edit] 3. A woman's witness testimony is half of that of a man's This verse says the witness testimony of one man is equivalent to the witness testimony of two women: "O you who believe! when you deal with each other in contracting a debt for a fixed time, then write it down; and let a scribe write it down between you with fairness; and the scribe should not refuse to write as Allah has taught him, so he should write; and let him who owes the debt dictate, and he should be careful of (his duty to) Allah, his Lord, and not diminish anything from it; but if he who owes the debt is unsound in understanding, or weak, or (if) he is not able to dictate himself, let his guardian dictate with fairness; and call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the second of the two may remind the other; and the witnesses should not refuse when they are summoned; and be not averse to writing it (whether it is) small or large, with the time of its falling due; this is more equitable in the sight of Allah and assures greater accuracy in testimony, and the nearest (way) that you may not entertain doubts (afterwards), except when it is ready merchandise which you give and take among yourselves from hand to hand, then there is no blame on you in not writing it down; and have witnesses when you barter with one another, and let no harm be done to the scribe or to the witness; and if you do (it) then surely it will be a transgression in you, and be careful of (your duty) to Allah, Allah teaches you, and Allah knows all things." Qur'an 2:282 Related to this verse is Muhammad saying that women are deficient in intelligence [edit] 2. A woman inherits half of what a man inherits This verse says that a woman inherits half of what a man inherits: "Allah enjoins you concerning your children: The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females; then if they are more than two females, they shall have two-thirds of what the deceased has left, and if there is one, she shall have the half; and as for his parents, each of them shall have the sixth of what he has left if he has a child, but if he has no child and (only) his two parents inherit him, then his mother shall have the third; but if he has brothers, then his mother shall have the sixth after (the payment of) a bequest he may have bequeathed or a debt; your parents and your children, you know not which of them is the nearer to you in usefulness; this is an ordinance from Allah: Surely Allah is Knowing, Wise." Qur'an 4:11 Qur'an 9:29 This is just one of many verses found in the Qur'an which encourages Islamic terrorism. [edit] 1. Fight non-Muslims This widely known verse orders Muslims to fight non-Muslims simply because they do not believe in the same God that Muslims do: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." Qur'an 9:29 This is just one of the verses in the Qur'an which encourages Islamic terrorism. This verse, together with verse 9:5 (the "Verse of the Sword"), has abrogated 122 peaceful verses.[2] See related: Terrorism edit - Also I'm sure you've read Babbarnama in which in length, he describes his crush on a young boy? You've heard of bachabaazi? You've heard of the hazari dinarii kafir. You being Punjabi go against your own blood; Are you aware that your own ancestors never took as zelously to Islam as you do? The sufi tradition is basically a spirtual one similar to sikhi as you may know, pre-independance it was not uncommon for a punjabi 'muslim' sufi sikh to have a bramin at his wedding. British accounts of the Sarkar-i-Khalsa point out the fact that all wore turbans and kept hair, and they couldn't tell who was who. -- I have a question for you, where would Islam be without oil? And as you know since it was primarily spread by the sword, being militarily weak now, how do you think this will continue? Also, as a pakistani how do you feel about the fact that Nixon saved your country by threatening to nuke India, esp. the Sikhs if they went deeper than Lahore when they had the initiative in the various wars? I don't feel I should learn a second language in my discourse with you, when you've shown no indication of proper respect, or knowledge for your mother tongue. 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I think adding to your karams is the wrong mentality, instead think of adding your value to it you are a talwaar where do you want to strike? My gurus, and my ancestors ate meat; I will too. I haven't seen relevant posts, but it's ok to treat someone with love and carry them along path, and help guru ji instills this in you. Going around yelling doesn't do anything, words are not weapons. I agree, you won't change it by working there or not working. There is something to be said about not touching it period, but we live in different times and we need to do what needs to be done for this: edit - Sorry wrong pic: :D Can't find map of universe. :D :D

Ask, scientists today science is about politics. They are hand to mouth for grants, and yea they will find what wants to be found. Look up all the metal tools found in rocks 100k's years old, or footprints with dinosaurs or humans milions of years old wearing sandals. Why is the most ancient name for India, Island?? The most ancient human name given. VJKVJF||