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Mate kiton da sardaar Mooli di khet di ? avdi Guru da Bakshia taj sitt ke kud nu Nigurey bhekari saabat kita . I can only guess what kind of girl came with that ... sorry for your loss-es

Everything happens according to the timeless one's will he has created millions upon millions of stars, planets , lifeforms,. perhaps the dinosaurs and plants were needed to create the fossil fuels, and black gold that we plough in the fields ...is it necessary to waste valuable breaths on speculation just live in this breath .

Ik chuperd marke bus karna chahida see but they went on and on ...they should have seen the kids was terrified and remorseful and changed tune by explaining with piare that gulti phir nahin karna . I did happen to see it before the original poster started the thread it made my stomach turn as it was in the same flavour as some shiv sena types beating up two muslim guys for transport cattle in their truck. Khalsa are supposed to be like Guru ji not tyrants ...what's going on?

there are a lot of resources out there Vids which give some base in the faith and its belief : basics of sikhi and sikh2inspire are two good starting channels on youtube as they have a lot of stuff explained in english for sikh current affairs/recent history rajoanaTV on youtube too

Sikhi = ACTION/ Karna Sikh = those who stopped existing as humans busy 'being'...they have transformed into humans busy 'doing'

It never hurts to remember Waheguru but I am sure this guys is not going to learn anything of true value there ...

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ka Fateh The petition is still up on change.org however it has been posted by a mystery man this time, not the guy that originally posted the petition who took it down.

Accha Veer ji, then if he gives the stereotypical sharabi kabeebi misogynist Punjabi image to SIkhi in the Uks minds you'll be happy and still proud ... I read the blurb in the mirror about him and some of things he said made me cringe and I've seen plenty messed up people.

too late he's said he's gonna show the world that Sikhs are liberal and fun-loving ... and that he's looking for love ...he wont mind marrying for love and he doesn't mind what religion the girl is get ready for girl chasing and boozing... sigh

It's my little bhabhi ...trying to sneak it past people in the family apparently LOL Apparently her episode is tomorrow, sorry to disappoint .

I wouldn't wait for the phoola da haar :biggrin2:

sorry to sound out of it but what has a SECULAR agency got to do with setting up a religious organisation? ...

How about making sure we do COMMERATE Guru Teg Bahadur ji's SHAHIDI gurpurab in a massive way worldwide ...so the whole world learns the truth of Sikhi's heroes

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh, I honestly feel that building a future for the kaum is more important than wasting time, effort and money chasing a justice that will never be forthcoming from mortals. They want to know a good 1984 project to invest in ...project 1849 ...Free Tanti saaz Raag kirtan scholarships to get a generation of Gurmat sangeet Parampara Kirtaniya in the kaum throughout the globe . Let's bring back our kirtan to what it should be and get to the point where no harmoniums need to be used in Guru's Hazoori

petition time anyone ?

Waheguru ji KA Khalsa, Waheguru ji Ki Fateh, Honestly suing the gov't is a waste of valuable resources how about putting the money into Sikhi parchaar, Raag kirtan scholarships Santhiya camps and classes, self-defense classes for the kids instead? Or am I too much of a dreamer?

I don't blame my jeeja too much, his father died when he was very young and his mother was too influenced by Hindu neighbours , their family is just Mother and two sons , the older one is my jeeja he had to support folks in India and was in Saudi Arabia ...I don't think he had much SIkhi Influence it's more Bollywood nonsense influencing him . Waheguru Kirpa Karan

When we married I didn't consider myself khalsa but sikh and as he had accepted Guru ji so we had anand karaj ceremony and civil at the gurudwara. I wear my dastaar and panj kakkar I do my banis but I know I can't have amrit alone (that's the killer) so I am waiting on Angelo , I know his family frames it as a family betrayal to become Sikh but he is his own man ... My three teenage boys are amritdhari and my daughter is six so a little young but we do banis together so she is learning.

You can ask , I did but he wasn't ready although he kept his word and brought up his children in Sikhi and supports their rights wherever we are and even puts his folks straight about it. I understand it can be an intensely emotional subject but it's best dealt with before marriage .

My little brother married an Indian Sikh woman of same gott , he was introduced through family via my Mum . When I went over to India with him, my Husband and my son they came to see us in the pind and the rest was arranged by our Nanaji . Mum was consulted and she was worried about it but it still went through as my Brother said it wasn't right to make an engagement and then break it on such a flimsy thing. They got married in India in 2000 ,they are happy have two lovely sons. My Vadi Bhabhi is more into Bollywood stuff and would prefer her sons were monay but my Brother wont let her touch their gurroop. Their family is more like the average Jatinder type family go gurudwarey on family programs. Keshadhari but not really aware of sikhi. I suspect Bhabhi knows more than she lets on but it doesn't suit her to let on. The baby of the family married a UK singhni she's not amritdhari but wears dastaar and does her bania and has encouraged him back to a more Sikhi-centric life which is wonderful as he was more susceptible to western influences. They married in 2009 and have two lovely girls . My little sister married last she's in between the two brothers she met a punjabi munda online working in Saudi Arabia and went with Mum to India , they met, Mum OK'd it and they married on that trip it was out of caste whatever that means and they are also happy here with their daughter. They do their banis and are learning together about sikhi . They are what you would consider 'monay' family but they are more dharmic than the brother just younger than me. I am curious to know why didn't you marry a Sikh by birth & how did you persuade your parents ? Nobody is a sikh by birth Guru ji's updesh says so ... we all have to have give our heads to Guru ji before we can be accepted . My own feeling is it was Angelo's fate to become closer to SIkhi because to know him and his thoughts and actions he is not the same as family it's like night and day . An incident happened in my life when I was very young and naive and from then I had decided I would rather be alone , pay my own way in this world and perhaps spend it doing sewa instead of getting married . That's why I studied at university and that's when Angelo met me and also when the culprit of the incident tried to come back into my life . Angelo was a study buddy and a friend and could see I was in distress so I told him why , he offered to deal with it for me but I told him NO my fight is my fight . So I dealt with that nasty scum and Angelo was there as moral support when I finally came clean with my family about what had happened , they did the whole Punjabi melodrama thing . But I was firm I'm not going to expose myself to prospective in-laws and I'm not lying, no amritdhari guys going to be messed about by my actions. I realised that I was spending a lot of my time thinking about what Angelo would say do etc . then I realised I was in risk of being unfaithful in terms that Guru ji has put before us 'to even think of someone other than your spouse' there was no way I could marry another person in good conscience . So the ardas came please Waheguru ji save me from this situation ... I listen to Guru ji and told Angelo what was going on , he was surprised but agreed that going to my folks would be the best thing to do. My Dad was in India visiting his sis so Mum was the first to meet Angelo with my brothers and sister...she could see that he was a decent , respectful human being but she was non-committal. Then Dad got back and met him too same... once Angelo left, Dad said that I shouldn't fall for the first person who shows me kindness I listened and understood where he was coming from so when he said you guys need to wait a year before getting engaged I was fine with it . I carried on with my life , found a job lived at home the usual ...when the year was up and Angelo was still around they did the engagement in front of Guru ji with his parents there . We then had to wait another year before they would consider a date for the marriage, in the first year Dad had consulted with Sant /Avaasta wale Baba in India about our situation and bachan was that Angelo would become a Gursikh so he OK'd a date. By the time we married we had known each other over 6 years and although people have been waiting for us to fail we are still together over 18 married years now. When Dad passed Angelo joined in fully, bathing him and preparing him , supporting Mum, doing sewa in the house during the paat ,in fact my Mum said that he did more for her in that time than her biological sons. He has learned how to love in the sikh way and realises how blessed he is to have a Sikh family.

Energy drinks such Redbull and the like which are high in caffeine and taurine can create respiratory system distress and when combined with alcohol as is popular amongst the pub crowd is a recipe for a heart attack or stroke so warn your nearest and dearest if they do the added step ... and those who don't as both things are pretty bad. Thanks ps. don't do what my chota khalsa veer did and drop the tea ....then start the coffee ... I had to smile at that one :happy2:

Veer ji I was just pointing out that all humans are suffering from the same Maya ... my husband works in the city and he would come home and occasionally share how he was flabbergasted and shocked at the Hijabwali bibian's behaviour , now he's from a country where basically nange lok phirde on the beaches so I can only imagine what he has seen. As he says they want to be judged by the look of modesty and be respected but then the clothes are tight, face is caked in makeup and then they come to see their boyfriends and grind up on them in public. it is pure hypocrisy, same at schools and uni the kids say one thing to Ma Pio then go totally off the rails when out of sight. The guys need to behave too it's not just the girls. I believe when you watch Bollywood movies/serials in your home you create a rod for your own back especially if you are not installing Sikh values in your kids ... I don't have any of the channels, I also restrict the influence of hollywood as much as possible and my kids so far operate in Sikh mentality, they are questioning the results of what they see around them in life in terms of Sikh values , I am supremely thankful to Waheguru that they do engage their brains . Most family members who watch those filmi things don't think of anything on a deep level it's all superficial in my experience. Those people who keep giving headspace to jaat paat are giving their valuable thoughts to Hindu mat rentfree. They are probably the same people who need to get their chanda sewa recognised by calling it out in ardas, insisting on having partysharty on gurudwara premises at the weddings too etc etc a I know that my husband found my sikhi a definite megaplus , it gave him a place to be his true self not act up to being some kind of stereotypical jack-the-lad , it allows him to talk about spiritual stuff his family doesn't process or discuss possibly those gorian who like Gursikhs are like my husband they need a true partner. There is no doubt in my mind that Gursikhs are very attractive they are clean-living, spiritual, full of chardi kala and compassion what's not to like ? Unfortunately you can't legislate against stupid and that what these girls and guys and their parents are who more worried about fitting into filmi stereotypes than having true meaning in their lives

No in an true khalsa Anand Karaj it is so

When you have that avasta you don't seek the limelight you seek Akal Purakh only ...those who don't push their own agenda but spend their time in bhagti and encourage others to do the same quietly are more likely to be what you are seeking in terms of candidates for panj sewa. You are forgetting Bani is the true Amrit, the Panj are just a respresentation of Guru Khalsa Panth and this takes place in Hazoori of Sri Guru Granth Sahib. The sanchar is between Guru ji and you. While it is true your Panj's avasta is important because they give of themselves during the sanchar it is not the be-all and end-all you have to work too . You have only been enrolled into school now comes lessons and study... then your practicals Good Luck.

Veer ji , kaam di bimaari duniya nu laghia not just gorey that's why it called kalyug ...these days even Khalsa are divorcing... and supposedly Amritdhari guys are asking their wives to be like gorey mems instead of Guru Gobind Singh ji's daughters and kicking them to the kerb if they don't . There is one bibi who posted something about her fiance recently like that on the forum, another is suffering because her husband can't stay in the marriage ... where is the idea of one team, for life, to obtain life's goal Jiwan Mukhti ? Most people are busy chasing shadows, very few are holding naam da diva to see what's real. I can understand the difficulties of a mixed family as my in-laws are gorey Brasilians(they live in Brasil) they are the type of people who have fallen headfirst into maya's illusions and they are poles apart from my family yet their eldest son was a 'black sheep' in terms of spiritual values, he is very much in agreement with Guru ji on how to live life and treat people, he goes gurudwara, listens to kirtan , joins in with sewa happily, he makes sure his kids stick to their guns as trainee Khalsa (they've had amrit), he stopped all meat etc when he married, he has made Guru ji his support in life but he hasn't got to the point yet of taking amrit, he has kept his beard and hair uncut for the past 16 years much to his folks chagrin. They think I am controlling him but truth is I never say do this and do that because he is Guru ji's to command. My advice to Bhaine ji is be truthful to yourself, the guy and your folks : Is it infatuation ? because you admit you have not spent that much time with him face to face to judge his character? Is he aware that if he gets seriously involved with you what that would mean for you and your family? That once engaged it has to be seen through to the end ? Some guys (ours too) do use girls by getting engaged and mucking them about. That marriage in our culture is seen as a one-time only deal? Are you prepared to let him go if asked to by your folks ? Are you prepared to tell your folks properly about him and introduce him? Is he prepared to go through that 'trial' of physical meeting with your parents? If he tells you to elope , my advice is break ties then and there and if you feel like running away it's never going to work . it has be based on the truth to be worth something. I would suggest doing an Ardas for Guru ji who knows what is in our best interests to make a decision one way or the other quickly and carried on with your normal life - I did this and left the rest to Guru ji it went towards marriage. My friend who was Muslim had a similar situation a few years later asked me for advice I told to do the same and within two weeks the white guy peeled off by himself ... so she got her answer, she now is happily married to someone her parents and she had known from before through friends and has two wonderful sons.