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Wow, Harballabh is a big deal. All the greats perform there. If anyone gets a chance, you should definitely check it out. I think it happens during Jan or Feb. It's a giant outdoor classical "concert" of sorts. Totally blew me away a few years ago when I went. It's awesome that this young Sikh has performed there. His skill is exceptional.

There are lots of agencies that can help you talk to your friend and can tell you how you can best help, what to say etc. A lot of the time, those who try to help don't end up helping at all. Eating disorders aren't just a simple case of feeling fat and teh cure isn't to simply tell the person that she looks fine. It's a lot deeper. Whereabouts are you? You can probably do a quick google of agencies that deal with this sort of thing near you and they could provide you with useful resources.

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Every now and then, I sit in on a class at my University called Political Action. This week, the lecturer was a woman who was an assistant to the Executive Director for Amnesty International. She spoke about the overall ineffectiveness of online petitions. They don't really procure positive results. Everyone is using them for every cause, but online petitions are largely ineffective. It takes two seconds to add your signature but no further effort is required. Why would any government/legislative/judicial body take it seriously and be compelled to act on it? There's no pressure, nothing that shows you REALLY care. If YOU don't care, why should they? Most online signatories don't even include a real name or address to begin with. We're becoming too reliant on these online petitions but we're effectively selling out our causes. This is why Amnesty International and others who aim for real results initiate letter-writing campaigns. It takes time to compose and mail a letter and it costs you something, but it shows more interest and dedication to a cause than just having your name appear on a list of other names, and that too only electronically. It is a POWERFUL message when a government receives hundreds and thousands of letters from people all over the world. It may seem "old school" in the face of electronic petitions in this day and age, but the old letter is still one of the best change-inducing tools for political action. People may have heard of a book called "Letters from a Nut". It's this guy who writes absolutely ridiculous letters to companies mostly in America, asking totally crazy questions. But because he's written a letter...a PROPER formal letter, he not only gets responses, but SERIOUS responses. His effort compells action. If we want action, we need to compell those we're presenting our causes to to care. But first, we have to show that we ourselves care. Protests and vigils are good. We can surely do more than that though.

Thank you Veer Jee

What's your thesis on?

The gist of it: http://www.tapoban.org/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=67434&t=67434

Sounds good! I like this part in particular: "the "Kirpaan is to a Sikh like a gun is to a police officer. They are both there to protect justice". In regards to clearing the misconception that the dastaar is only for men, you will find countless points in the following older thread: http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=16027 Try to find Tarunjeet Singh's post in that thread as he most eloquently sums up every aspect of the argument and makes it clear that women must wear a dastaar as well. Essentially, there are so many references to a dastaar/keski being a MUST for SIKHS that it is ridiculous to say it doesn't apply to Singhnees unless you were to argue that Singhnees are not Sikhs. You can add to your write-up that a dastaar is an essential part of the Sikh uniform (again, making it clear that it applies to females as well) and it adds to the identity/being distinct/standing out point you're making in the second paragraph.

Humble suggestion: I think it would be more beneficial if you included the Hukamnama in Gurmukhi as well when posting it here. Reading just an English translation leaves a lot lacking. I'm guessing from today's translation that the Hukamnaama was "Gur poorai charni laaya, Har sang sahaee paaya", but it would be better if it was included so we'd know for sure. Just my suggestion.

Everytime you begin doing your sehaj paath, you should do ardaas asking Guru Sahib to grant you the wisdom and ability to do paath shudh. At the end, do ardaas again asking Guru Sahib for forgiveness for any mistakes you may have made while doing paath. You can do this ardaas silently on your own before beginning and after ending. It doesn't need to be audible to others.

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Try www.matabhaagkaur.org In the Media Section, there's a video on tying a dastaar. It starts off with showing you how to tie a joora. A joora should be right on the dasam duaar, the "soft spot" at the top of the head. It's the same for males and females.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=15870&st=84

Umm....something's wrong here: >2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11. >1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

Where abouts are you? Maybe there's a Sikh nearby who would be willing to help you out, maybe accompany you to the Gurdwara? There are a lot of different videos out there and way more different ways to tie a dastaar! The first time I wore a dastaar, I didn't learn to tie it from anyone or anything. I just tied it on my own however I could and off I went! You might have a natural knack for it! Aww! Don't be scared! You'll most likely be greeted by lots of friendly faces! Yup! Yeah, that's the trouble with chunnis...always sliding off. If you gather up the courage to go to the Gurdwara, please do let us know how it goes!

Namstang, first of all, stick to the topic of this discussion and save your hate-filled nonsense for someone who cares. You've mentioned Rani Tara again but you've neglected to address my previous inquiries into how you know she was a brahmgiani and merged with Waheguru. How do you know she got to Sachkhand? If she existed before Guru Nanak, that's fine, but from after Guru Nanak onwards, Gurbani tells us that the only way to merge with Waheguru is through Naam given by the Satguru. Naam is given by Guru Sahib in the form of Punj Pyaaray during an Amrit Sinchaar. From Guru Gobind Singh Jee's time until the 1930's, every Sikh was required to wear a Dastaar before getting Amrit dee daat. This includes Singhs and Singhnees. There's a word for "doing certain things in a certain way". It's called Rehit. You might have heard of it, you know, like when Guru Sahib says "Rehit pyaaree mujh ko, Sikh pyaara naae". Ring a bell? So much hatred! What does Tapoban have to do with this? It's been proven to you time and time again that you've taken the so-called "quote" about prostitutes out of context, yet you try to slip the same point past us repeatedly, despite being put in your place just as repeatedly. When will you learn? And have you EVER participated in a discussion without being told to tone down the hate and being told you're going off-topic and bringing up totally irrelevant matieral?? Forget about "stepping up" and "giving a taste of their own medicine"....just sit down and take a chill-pill for God's sake! Once you cool down, maybe you could tell me where a fanatical parcharik has called non-keski women "low life worms". If you REALLY felt it was "good for them" that Singhnees wear big dastaars and kirpans, your words wouldn't reek so strongly of insecurity and hate. By the way, I just don't get why it's so difficult for you to stay on one topic? I don't get why you would bring this up and think people here would actually think you're a sensible person with any skills in discussion at all. People here have already argued (successfully) against your nonsensical attempts at spreading hate against Tapoban/Jatha in other threads. When, oh when will you learn??

Namstang, how do you know those dressed up as "kings and queens" were able to merge with Waheguru? And who said they were Brahmgianis? Yes, Bhai Gurdas Jee's vaars mentions Rani Tara but where does it mention how she dressed (beyond the fact she wore sandals) and where does it say she was a Brahmgiani? Seems to me like you've simply spewed forth all kinds of irrelevant details, but none prove anything. Like who? Living admist maya and yet remaining INDIFFERENT to it would actually mean NOT dressing up as "kings and queens", and it would go against what you've said about wearing make-up too. Namstang, until you entered the scene here, this discussion was entirely civilized and sensible. Your post alone comes across as a feeble attempt at brainwashing, given the fact that it's full of irrelevant nonsense thrown together to form some sort of argument against women in Dastaars. If anyone seems insecure, it's you and you alone. If Singhnees wear 9" damaallay and 9" kirpans and look like more of a Sikh than you, don't be so threatened by us.

Something appropriate for your noggin? Try a dastaar! Chunnis can be made of any material you like. Thick, thin, see-through or not, stretchy or stiff, soft or scratchy.

Maybe it's for extra emphasis, to really drill the point home for women too. From the first two lines though, it's clear that it's directed at anyone wishing to take Amrit, not just Singhs. And you can't overlook the other evidence presented by Tarunjeet Singh's earlier post. It makes no sense whatsoever to argue that women don't require a dastaar.

Rough translation (my Punjabi sucks too) : Those who are going to get Amrit have to first wear a Kacheraa They must gather their hair into a joora and sajjaa a dastaar Wear a kirpan in a gatra, remain standing with hands together Keep your joora in the middle of your head, and wear a big turban Keep your hair covered, do kanga two times, and tie your turban chuN-key (gathered) I don't understand the last line. Something about women and jooras

You're all right. I don't know what I was thinking. Bujjar Kurehit it is.

There's a new School of Pharmacy that's opening at the University of Waterloo (in Ontario) in September 2006. This University offers nice scholarships. The University of Toronto also has a good pharmacology program.

1) You can view the daily Hukamnaama from Darbaar Sahib here The link includes viaakheyaa in Punjabi as well as the English translation. 2) For the other shabads you requested: Koee Boley Aval Allah You can go directly to http://www.sikhitothemax.com/search.asp to search for any Shabad.

I understand what you're feeling, but at the same time, I feel that your Sikhi shouldn't depend so heavily on one person. People come and go from our lives, but our Sikhi is one thing that should remain steadfast through any hurdle. This person has hurt you and you were justified in feeling hurt, but holding onto that pain will only further harm you. If they've apologised and you admit that it was unavoidable for the person to have done whatever they did, then it's wrong to still hold it against them. It's hard to let things go sometimes, but it really is best. Letting go doesn't mean you have to talk to them though. Sometimes avoiding the person and creating distance is better. If the person is of the opposite sex, then I very highly recommend that you indeed take the path of greatest distance from them. Your Sikhi really shouldn't depend on this one person such that when the person is gone, your Sikhi goes with him/her.

It wouldn't "break" your Amrit as it isn't a bujjar kurehit. But it is definitely a kurehit and still wrong. It would warrant presenting yourself before the Punj Pyaaray at the next Amrit Sinchaar.