Akalifauj

Because over the years with his speeches there is a pattern of him making statements and then strictly saying he never said it. In this very video Dhunda says, I never said Dasam Bani is not Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's Bani. Yet he has come out and said Bachittar Natak is not the Bani of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji in the past. He has insulted Chaupai Sahib in the past and said he never said it and now in this video says he reads the very Bani he insulted. In the above video I post, Dhunda says he speaks up against manmat. Yet in a video with Inder Ghagga he is seen to be silent when Inder Ghagga calls Naam Simran manmat. The video is on youtube as well. There is a clear pattern of events that show how he manipulates and twist Gurbani to sell his speeches. Search this site for all the evidence you are looking for. Over the years the posters have done a great job of tracking Dhunda's acts.

The sangat that listens to Dhunda speeches should pay attention to the first 4 minutes of the video very closely. After watching the video did you catch the deception he played with you? Rewind the video to 2:20 and you hear Dhunda saying couple of lines of Gurbani to prove his point. Right afterwards he says these lines are on ang 732 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. I became curious to read the whole shabad and opened up ang 732 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. I read the shabad and no where can I find the first line raam raam karathaa sabh jag firai raam n paaeiaa jaae in Raag Sohee written by Sri Guru Raam Das ji on ang 732. Instead I found the above line on ang 555 in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj and is in the shabad of Sri Guru Amar Das Ji in Raag Bihaagraa. So please ask yourself, why did Dhunda join two lines together of Gurbani which don't come after each other and say they are on ang 732? Is your loyalty with Dhunda higher or with presenting Gurbani as Guru Sahib wrote it?

In the same sense let's send you down to the south, redneck valley and see how much Trump speaks up for you after they slaughter you like a pig! Are you willing to risk your life for Trump's platform, which you claim is "taking care of business"? Trump's supporters are racist entitled white people, who blame all their problems on the minority class. These entitled white folks refuse to do manual labor jobs, unless it's a government job because their brother Joe is the manager and will let him sit on his hands for 8 hours, while the Mexican subcontracted employee does the job at minimum wage. The Mexican who is providing for his family is the problem, not the white entitled person who is on social assistance because he is upset for having a black president. On the media Prime Ministers and Presidents are politically correct, but behind closed doors the real them comes out. If Trump is barking off like a wild dog on stage, I don't want to know what he is saying behind closed doors about the minorities. The same applies to others, but they are more down to earth compared to Trump. Trump doesn't care about Sikhs or anyone else. Trump is only trying to get into office to scratch one more item off his bucket list before he dies.

Anyone who watches this speech and can't tell where the insults toward Sikhs come are in denial for whatever reason. Sikhs are turning much like the Hindus in Babar era. The Hindus hid, while their bothers and sisters were being slaughtered. Although the Hindus kept on glorifying their Gods as warriors. Today Sikhs do the same with Gursikhs (Baba ji fought with his head off......I can't even get passed the first level of Call of Duty), yet can't stand up for their own self and slander those who do stand up for the oppressed. I don't know the Sikhs intent (he could be affiliated with the opposition), but he surely brought attention to how big of a bigot Trump really is. This in my opinion is success. Those on the fence about Trump can make a better decision about him after these anti-religious freedom comments.

Quit your day job, then what? Do you think the maya will go away? Live in the present. Focus on your task before you. The mind becomes untouchable by pain if you remember a shabad, either in kirtan form or just read out. Remember a pankti and let the tune play in your head. Quietly say it as you work. The pain of the mind increases when we start to believe we can do it all by ourselves. Start tasks off by a sincere ardas saying, Guru Sahib you are my only support and you give me all and take care of me every second. It's got to be from the heart, and don't say I can do.... Ask for Guru Sahib to bless you with Doing seva. Try your best to focus on the seva and do the best you can. Don't look for shortcuts in the seva and do simran (remember Vaheguru while doing seva) Seva could be simply going out of your way to do something for someone else without expecting anything back. Without looking at good and bad, do seva. Quitting your job will not make the pain go away. Isolating yourself from the world will not make the world pain free. Sitting in a quiet place to learn Gurbani teachings is virtuous. Recognize Vaheguru is infused in everything. Look at the world through the eyes of Gurbani. The people in the world use many tricks in their lives to cover up their shortcomings. Recognize how maya is used by majority, but stay in the sanctuary of Guru Sahib by staying truthful to the best of your ability. Someone wishes bad for you or tries to do bad to you. Do ardas for your own sake to stay on the narrow path of honesty, compassion, and contentment. One step at a time, Guru Sahib will grab you by the arm, when you truly fall down at his feet by listening to his Kirtan, katha, and paath. Listen with your heart and not your ears. The tongue may repeat his Gurbani, but is the mind absorbing his teachings? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqrusZ_U9sQ

Here is the whole speech, where Trump calls the dastar a hat and mistakes the Sikh for a Muslim. Start watching from 17:00 minutes and watch up to 22:00 minutes. Closer to 20:20 minutes Trump refers to the hat again and says, "they would not be looking for the dirty hat, believe me, they would not be looking for the guy with the dirty hat, they would not be looking for long" Then he goes and says dirty hat couple of more times.

"He wasn't wearing one of those hats. was he? Was he wearing one of those? And he never will...and he never will....and he never will....and that's okay, but you know we gotta do something folks, cuz its not working. And all over the world they are talking about it. And people..frankly I have friends who are Muslims and they call me up. Not all of them!! But some of them and they say you are doing a great service because there is tremendous hatred" Word for word what Trump said is presented above. Trump calls the dastar, the Sikh is wearing, a hat. Then he continues to insinuate the Sikh (who he had mistaken for a Muslim) will never wear the "hat" if he is elected as President. Not only is he labeling majority of the Muslims in America as terrorist, but he will restrict their religious freedom to wear the "hat". If this is not considered bigotry, then please tell me what is? By the sound of it, Trump's core way of running the country, if he wins, is to implement fascism.

None of you boys can do anything to help Sikhs. So you target a person who is standing up for freedom? Do you remember how Babar slaughtered Hindus because Hindus lost there fighting spirit? Hindus also slandered those who tried to stand up for freedom. No Sikhs here, only weak minded people traveling down the road to be Hindus. Listen to Hitler's speeches before he was elected as head of state for Germany.

Sri Guru Arjun Dev ji said Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji is Vaheguru himself. Gurbani says there is no difference between the 11 Gurus. What the first Guru said is approved by the rest and what the fifth Guru said is approved by the first Guru. Outside of Gurbani people may have called Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji Vaheguru by their own beliefs. However according to Gurbani, regardless of the writer, the Shabad Guru/Hukam/Akal Purakh himself, Vaheguru is Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji and Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji is Vaheguru. A young child is told who his father is by the mother, yet the young child at the age of 3 is not able to understand how so. The child accepts the teaching of the mother and continues on with his day satisfied with calling the man his father. Only after several years of understanding how he came into the world does he understand why his mother was telling him how the man was his father. Life is too short to argue with Gurbani, specifically Sri Guru Arjun Dev ji, who compiled Adi Granth. Sri Guru Arjun Dev ji, Bhatt Satthaa and Bhatt Mathuraa, all say Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji is Vaheguru himself. Looking at the bigger concept of how and who can bless Guruship clears this debate up faster. Only Vaheguru can give the Guruship to the Guru. Vaheguru blessed Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji with the Guruship. Who blessed Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji? Dusht Daman sat meditating on Vaheguru and was blessed to go down on Earth as Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji. Who blessed Sri Guru Angad Dev ji? Bhagat Kabir ji's Bani is in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, however did he bless anyone with Guruship or did he get blessed with Guruship? No! Yet Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji blessed someone with Guruship. How can this be? Bhagat Kabir ji's Bani is in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, why couldn't he give Guruship? If Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji saw himself as only a lowly servant to Vaheguru, then how can he bless anyone with Vaheguru or give Guruship away? If Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji was only a Guru (prophet, teacher of the divine, human but taught of the divine), then he could not bless anyone with Guruship because only Vaheguru has this authority as seen clearly in Bachittar Natak. Dusht Daman didn't get up on his own effort and say I am the next Guru. Jesus tried this behavior and Vaheguru never gave him support. When has Vaheguru ever left his creation? Gurbani says creation cannot exist without Vaheguru being infused in it. Vaheguru's power is the support of creation. If Vaheguru was logical and moral according to your beliefs, he would not even create robberies, murders, rapes, and injustices at all. He would not create creation all together. He would be as he is. You are pulling at threads, which don't exist to provide some premise for your argument. Christians can write as they wish and their writing does not reflect on how Gurbani was written or how Gurbani is to be interpreted. Gurbani is not in competition with Christians or Jesus. Gurbani is here to deliver Sikhs to Akal Purakh by delivering the truth to creation.

Think back to Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's time. Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji prakash happened in the open, but back then Singhs had methods to discipline those who purposely tried to disrespect the prakash. Disrespect can happen by talking loud, having your own function next door which is against the teachings of Gurbani or wearing inappropriate attire in and around the prakash of Guru Sahib. Singhs in the 1980s used to do Prakash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji outside in the farms and it was one of the best atmospheres according to the Sikhs witnessing it. Even then the Singhs good handle any disrespect committed by people. People smoking, drinking, dress inappropriately would know not to go near the Prakash because Singhs will give us a lesson in being respectful. However today, we don't have the same case. Today, we have Sikhs openly disrespecting Guru Sahib and seem completely fine with it. Having a wedding at your house in the open is an awesome feeling if you can control for any disrespect to be stopped immediately. Sikhs today bring Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji to their house to bless the wedding, but they don't care to respect Guru Sahib. They have coolers and fridges filled with alcohol ready to be served after the Anand Karaj is complete and Guru Sahib is off the property. Sometimes beers are being passed around while the Anand Karaj is happening. Meat waits in the freezer and fridge to be put out afterward for the guest as if Guru Sahib was never present. Whether people cover their head or sit down on the ground is optional according to how religious a family is. The amount of disrespect that takes place at a house is not controlled because the wedding family considers it not to be disrespectful. Anand Karaj taking place on beaches are full of disrespect. Women and men walking around on the beach with beers, meat and dressed in inappropriate attire cannot be controlled for and neither is it ever. Two people making out next to the Anand Karaj can't be stopped. The guest are there to have a good time and can't wait for the Anand Karaj to be over. Again Guru Sahib is immediately taken away, out of sight and the real fun begins for the wedding guest. Sikhs of the past had respect for Guru Sahib and doing wedding or other religious events outside was not an issue. Sikhs would take care of anyone who will try to disrespect the function in the most appropriate method. Today Sikhs are the one's who are doing the disrespect, so who is going to police them? The Hukamnama was issued to stop this sort of beadbi (disrespect) from taking place. But a Hukamnama is only effective if there is proper enforcement behind it. The Sikhs today have no power to enforce the basic respect in a Gurdwara. If every Sikh took responsibility of their own actions, there would be no need to issue such Hukamnama.

I think Jugraj Singh should brush up on Gurbani that speaks about Muslims and their Prophet to be more effective with his arguments. I have seen a couple of his videos preaching outside and its mostly Muslims arguing against him. Many shabads from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji have the answers for these Muslims questions. If he can't memorize the Shabads. He can bring a print out with him to help recall certain Shabads to provide a better answer. At the end of the day it is not about winning or losing, but about presenting Sikhi in the manner Guru Sahib gave Sikhi to us. Funniest part was when the Muslim said, Is God in the toilet? LOL Ironically, in that moment I would have said your mind is filthier than the toilet, so should I refrain from saying God is in your mind? God is infused in everything giving it support and existence. If God is not in something, then it doesn't exist. In that moment the Muslim is probably picturing a old man with a white beard and a Muslim head cover sitting in the toilet saying, "watch where you poo I just washed up in here, I'm watching you!!!!!" lmao

Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji says Jesus Christ and rest of the prophets failed in their objective to bring the true teaching of Akal Purkh to this Earth. According to Guru Sahib Jesus Christ could not deliver anyone and only got people to worship himself (Bachittar Natak). Are you putting doubt on Gurbani and accepting Kachi Bani as the truth?

Look at the language used here. Normally mahapurkh is not placed before respected peoples names like Bhai Vir Singh. So why is it done now? It's to instill fear in the reader not to question what Bhai Vir Singh has said or what Bhai Vir Singh is saying according to the poster. EVERYONE MUST ACCEPT IT BLINDLY!!!! The reader must accept it and if you don't, then you are a Sant nindak. How can you tell a fake from far away? They start giving you indications before you can approach them to not ask questions to further explore what they have said. In this poster's first post, which started this topic, he writes at the end, don't be a Sant nindak. Guru Sahib encourages Sikhs to contemplate over Gurbani and discuss what others have said or written to determine if it is true or false. Bhai Vir Singh writing is not Gurbani. We can respectfully disagree with him when Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji rejects ideas Bhai Vir Singh is being accused of saying by you. I am surprised you didn't try the 108 trick or even better should have wrote 100000000000000008 Sant baba Mahapurk Brahmgiani Swami Bhai Vir Singh Sahib Dev ji. Yeaaahh go deal with him man......hes got my back. If you had taken anything away from the book it should have been the lesson of not putting fear in anyone and not fearing anyone. In the post where he attempts to clarify what he originally said, he puts down the reader for not accepting his initial proposal. He makes it sound like as if he is doing a favor for the other posters. No one went out of their way to ask for your opinion. You did not do anyone a favor here.

I have read what you are trying to interpret in your own words. You have done a horrible job of portraying what is being said between Dusht Daman and the others according to Bhai Vir Singh in his book. The others first doubt Dusht Daman has met Vaheguru and received Vaheguru's blessing (kirpa/grace). Let me stress here, Dusht Daman received the blessing from Vaheguru and not Jesus to come on this Earth as Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji.. Bhai Vir Singh in his dialogue even makes this clear. The other sidhs and rishis are trying to convince Dusht Daman that ego and desires will rob him of his current meditative state and he should not go down to earth. Yet Dusht Daman is explaining to these scared souls how he as received Vaheguru's blessing and nothing can touch him. The whole conversation between Dusht Daman and the others is to show them how they too can come to the realization Dusht Daman has come too. The others (rishis and sidhs) are trying to convince each other Dusht Daman knows what he is doing through their dialogue with Dusht Daman. The others are wrestling with their own mind, while Dusht Daman is explaining to them how he as been blessed by Akal Purkh. No where in this conversation does Bhai Vir Singh say these sidhs and rishis gave their blessing. Originally, you said Jesus gave his blessing to Dusht Daman. However in the above you are saying the sidhis and rishis discussing with Dusht Daman gave their blessing. So which is it now, please clarify. If you still want to discuss, who gave the blessing and who didn't. Present the exact page number, paragraph, and sentence here. No point on going back and forth wasting time with he said, she said. Now in regards to Bhai Vir Singh writing this book. A few important questions and honest Sikh will ask are: How did he obtain this knowledge of Dusht Daman and the latter history? He speak of very detailed history, which includes the thought process of Dusht Daman. I am completely amazed of how he got this knowledge, if its factual knowledge. Where did he get or find or receive this information from? Where are the reference to what he is writing in this book called Sri Kalgidhar Chamatkaar?

*Deleted* My original post was deleted my an admin or mod because i wrote how akj encourage the head banging. I forgot the admin and mods favor akj and will hide the misdeeds done by akj to the khalsa panth.

Thanks that did the trick

Jesus gave blessing to dusht daman? Shaheedi degh is the good stuff? Let us know when the effect wears off and answer these questions. Weren't you the one, who was calling others nastik for not believing in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji? Bachittar Natak is clear on who gave blessing to Dusht Daman. However I am not going to post it here because only a believer of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji as Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's Bani will present it as evidence. Let's see who is a true believer of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's Bani.

Sikhri is a venomous organization. Sikhs should not support them. They have ill intentions.

I was pointing to his claim of Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji coming down in their sangat one day (in the past couple of years or whenever he claims) and asked, he answers to this claim. If you still don`t understand what I was asking from him, please just ask.

Age does matter. If the difference was one year or less it's not an issue. But she's 3 years older. She was just about finishing her degree and this poor guy was just starting his and started thinking about life as an adult. I would also ask why is she not marrying someone older or her age? Why did she wait till 30 to get married? The fact you are not asking these questions shows you are not ready to take this relationship forward.

Not true but what gurdwara are you speaking of and what catering does this group need. What facilities are you looking for the westerners and what special treatment in your mind does the amritdhari group get and the mona group doesn't. Add some substance to your claims. Otherwise you are just another person whining because you have a grudge.

Are you saying Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji came down in his physical form and gave his darshan? If he did, I have many questions for you. I will be waiting for your post.

Sri guru gobind Singh sahib ji finalized an identity which was to make Sikhs stand out. Guru sahib proudly told Sikhs to claim to be Sikhs. Nothing wrong with saying we are Sikhs. Especially today when many confuse us with Muslims and some areas as hindus. More awareness campaigns need to be done.

Gurbani tell us Sikhs how to obtain mind control. Not once does Gurbani say start off by using any form of yoga(breathing exercise, hand movement (mudras), body posture (kriya), etc) Read ang 186 and 202. Sri Guru Arjan Dev ji say no to yoga when it comes to starting to control your mind or for controlling your mind. Others will isolate tuks and panktis, yet when a honest discussion starts, they have no time to discuss the whole shabad to present the whole picture. Read Bhagat Kabir ji`s Bani. Bhagat ji very sharply points out the practice of yoga cannot gain union for a person with Akal Purakh or for any sort of spiritual gain. 3HO and supporters very cleverly trick people into manipulating Gurbani to say yoga is spiritual and approved by Guru Sahib for spiritual development. They specifically attribute Sri Guru Ram Das ji as the front runner who promotes yoga (Raj Yoga) for spiritual gain. Ask these people and those who think in a similar fashion to read the angs I said above written by Sri Guru Arjan Dev ji. Sri Guru Arjan Dev ji is the son of Sri Guru Ram Das ji. His son would not disapprove of what his father the Guru so called said. If he did, then our fifth Guru would be no different than Sri Chand, the first Guru son who was called beymukh in Gurbani. Let`s uncover this myth, in couple of sentences, of how yoga was the way of the past and now we have the direct path (Gurbani) to union( Akal Purakh), yet yoga can still can take you to Akal Purakh. Bhagat Kabir ji came before Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji on this Earth. If yoga was the way then, how come Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji gave the stamp of Gurbani to the Shabads written by Bhagat Kabir ji, clearly saying yoga is useless for spiritual gain or union with Akal Purakh. Not all of Bhagat Kabir ji`s writing was accepted in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and Guru Sahib even corrects Bhagat ji on certain topics. Yet we see the stamp by Guru Sahib when Bhagat ji talks about yoga. Read Bhagat Kabir ji`s Shabads on yoga and you will find how he abandoned the path of yoga after finding only emptiness in it. The idea of first getting some mind control (claiming a person has to use a method like yoga for starting off with mind control) before simran or yoga helps to speed up the process is simply not true. The reason said above should be sufficient enough to say why and look at the instructions given in Gurbani further describing in more detail. Wake up in the early hours, repeat his name and contemplate on Gurbani. What does this translate into as Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji instructed us. In the morning do Vaheguru simran and read your 5 Banis, if you desire to do more, keep the rhythm going. Sikhi is simple, yet many purposely make it complicated due to personal attachments. Opening chakras is apart of this whole yoga union with Akal Purakh scam. Sikhs need to open their mind and heart to the Guru and then only will your chakras be open. Don`t believe me, read ang 1042. Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji perfectly says only the Guru is the way. There is so much to be said on this topic. I know before hand what the other side will present in isolation from Guru Sahib`s Bani. No one is stopping anyone from practicing whatever they want. Your life your choice. But why manipulate and twist Gurbani to support your practices. Leave Gurbani out of it.

Do you have an answer for my question. Once you answer my question, I have no problem answering your unrelated ideas. Don`t be political, be a Sikh (not scared to answer questions or say I don`t know when you don`t know the answer).