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As far as i'm aware you can buy them online but i'd recommend finding a local store (there's plenty of them about) and going in and chatting to them, they aren't specifically prohibited in the UK but the more powerful ones will come under the firearms act and could get you into trouble if they're the ones you want, like i said, find a local store and speak to them. I wouldn't even think about bringing one back from India or anywhere else unless you like orange jumpsuits and want to spend the next few years at her majesties pleasure. What you hunting anyway, the local giani's...

She is doing a good job so maybe we should't be judging her based on her private life and focus more on the fact that she is one of the few MP's from our community that is raising awareness to the issues we have,

Welcome to Kalyug, enjoy your stay.

@Big_Tera Dude, when someone recommends a type of car you take their advice, when someone recommends a life partner you don't go and marry them without even meeting them at least once, personally, i i were you i would have spoken to may parents as soon as i had doubts, i wouldn't be posting for advice on the internet. As far as the repercussions, you can forget about going to India for a while because they don't forget stuff like this in a hurry, you know, izzat and all, anyway, like i said, speak to your parents, you never know, they might listen and understand.

I saw an apology from Ramgharia Gurudwara Leeds last week on facebook about what happened in the Langar hall, had no idea what it was about, i'm assuming it was this, Vishwakarma day is usually the day after Diwali so i'm assuming this happened then, if they wanted to do this they should have found somewhere else to do it, not at the Gurdwara (even if it was the Langar hall).

Just because something isn't allowed doesn't mean it doesn't happen, I've been to plenty of wedding where dowry was involved under some guise or another and these where amritdhari families, it's a shameful "cultural" practice.

While i know most on this forum don't really like Sunny Hundal, this article written by him pretty much hits the nail on the head. http://barficulture.tv/world/103

For anyone who had any sympathies for Britain First, what they would say to a comment like the above is "Go back to where you came from".

Sorry Big_Tera, a fascist is a fascist, doesn't matter how good their marketing and PR has gotten, this idea that they've changed and are only against muslims now is just as wrong as them being against people of colour. If they said they were against extremism regardless of race or religion it would be one thing but they don't, there's plenty of extremism in the christian community but they ain't saying anything, they are fascists, plain and simple, and this idea that they have praise for Sikhs, they know that Sikhs have battled with Moghuls in the time of the Guru's and made the assumption that Sikhs are the natural enemy of Muslims because of this, someone should send them a press release and tell them that it's actually injustice that Sikhs are against, not any particular religion.

Those who grew up in the 70's and 80's know who Britain first really are, they used to be called the BNP and the National Front before that, they are a fascist group and anyone who thinks they respect or get on with Sikhs should ask the elder generation about their previous incarnations.

I fully understand the point your trying to make, what i don't understand is what relevance it has with the issue at hand, here we have a guy who's only crime was point out the human rights violations perpetrated by the Indian government during and after 1984, as a result of this he's been arrested and has been sat in a jail for 24 day's, tortured both mentally and physically, been denied access to the British consulate and god only knows what else he's going through, him having a turban or cut hair has nothing to do with anything, i apologise for my annoyance but I've been conversing with you over something which is minuscule in relevance to what's actually happened here. I am well aware of what Guru Gobind Singh Ji mandated and have no issue with that, your while point is about Sikh's with cut hair (if such a thing can exist) not being recognisable as a Sikh, i take your point and leave you to your opinion and am closing this discussion and as already mentioned, it's worth going back on topic.

I actually do know Sarbjit personally and to say he fly's under the radar is nonsense, just because he's not in the public eye defending Sikhi all the time doesn't mean he's "flying under the radar". Like i've already said, there are plenty of turban wearing Sikhs who fly under the radar and only come out when it's in there interest, just go to any Gurdwara in the UK, they're called committee members, like i said, each to their own.

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Prefer words with meaning, try Singh Mahoon Or artists like L-Fresh, artists who's words have meaning.

I think this debate could go on for a while, mt issue with people saying "mona" is the simple fact that i know Punjabi's with cut hair that respect and adhere to Sikhi more than ones with a dastaar and even fully grown beards, as far as flying under the radar, there are plenty of us out there with a pagh on our heads that do that, it's not restricted to those that have cut hair. Sarbjit Singh from Rajoanatv is a highly regarded human rights activist, the man know's more about injustices done to Sikhs than anyone I know, he's a "mona", i've never seen him fly under the radar. Like i said, we could debate forever, everyone has their own opinion and though process.

1. Read what i wrote, "i'm sorry, but if that happened to anyone, turban or not, we should be protesting.", i'm not alluding to you and whatever stance you have on protesting or not, Them moment you said the word "mona" you made a division, if you had made the same post and not mentioned the fact that he had cut hair no one would be disagreeing with you. Where did you say what happened to him was okay, you didn't and i'm not saying you did, that's your assumption. 2. I stand by what i said, read what i said in context, i said "largest democracy" in the world",, if you live in the largest democracy in the world would you expect to be taken in broad daylight for criticising the Government or the way they run the country. I'm well aware of the Human Right's violations committed in Punjab and by the police there, everyone know's someone whose suffered, i'm no different, if this proves anything it's that Sikh's need to take a long hard look at what they call their motherland and how much respect we get there.

That has to be the single most un-educated post i've read in a long while, having a dastaar or having cut hair has nothing to do with what's happened, the point of this is that some visited another country and was kidnapped in broad daylight and is being detained without charge while being subjected to various types of torture all because he runs a website highlighting human rights violations, i'm sorry, but if that happened to anyone, turban or not, we should be protesting. How vigilant do you expect the average person to be, no one expects to be kidnapped in the middle of the day for airing you own opinions on a website in the "largest democracy" in the world. The man's being scapegoated, simple as, having a turban or not is irrelevant.

I'm not talking about the author, knowing Satnam i can tell you he's a lot less Liberal than most people think (but everyone's entitled to their own opinion), I'm on about your comment "He associated and blamed his life problems with Sikhi when it was backward Indian punjabi culture. This programme will misrepresent Sikhi.", I'm assuming you've read the book for you to be able to pass judgement like that.

I take it you've read the book then.

Read the book years ago and remember meeting Satnam, I've stayed in touch with him over the years and am glad he's getting some recognition, he a good author, as far as the book having anything to do with Sikhi, is doesn't so don't watch the tv adaptation thinking it has, it's more about Punjabi culture and his own perspective on it.

I really don't, for the life of me, as a Sikh, understand how someone can say "No one is going to die in Burma because Khalsa Aid doesn't go to the camps to help out." really man, it's a terrible shame that people think like this, it's like seeing someone injured on the road and saying "Nah man, leave it, someone else can help them". Khalsa Aid put themselves forward as a "Humanitarian Aid Agency" not a Sikh one, there are bigger problems in the world than those going on in our backyards, they do help out in Punjab, alot, like i said in a previous post, do your research, they help out on an individual basis, the problem in Punjab is it's riddled with corruption and backhanded politics which make it very difficult for any charity to operate without giving out "donations" to local mp's and police, in other word's taking the money people donate and using it to bribe people to get to those who need help, kind of defeats the object of it all, that's why they go in and help individuals instead of communities.

Do your research, they do a lot for Sikhs (including Afghan and Pakistani Sikhs), i could make a list of the what they've down on a grass roots level but you opinion seems to fall in the camp of "We have to do for our own first" and your mind's already made up, maybe go and meet Ravi, i've met him a few times, your opinion will change pretty fast once you understand the people they're trying to help, when you help someone if you see their religion or skin colour first then you've lost before you've even began. Charity does begin at home and no one is forcing you to give money to them, yet we have no problem propping up TV channels in the UK who operate under the guise of a charity and don't help anyone, just saying.

Every time someone converts from one religion to another it's used for maximum PR, Christians and Muslim organisations are notorious for it but you can't force someone to believe in something of they don't want to, simple as, by doing that your causing more harm than good, in the case of the original story, I've met people with views a lot worse than that, it used to offend me at first but know i just don't give it the time of day, there's more important things in the world.

Deport them where exactly considering they were probably born in the UK. Less religion more opportunity, they seem like 2 criminals who took advantage of an elderly lady, they could have just pushed her to one side but instead decided to assault her.

To be fair, this is the same actress who thought it was a good idea to take selfies at the Holocaust Museum in Berlin before realising that it might of been a bad idea and deleting the images from her twitter account so expecting someone with this level of intelligence to do any research into anyone is a bit of a stretch.