BABBAR KHALISTANI

WOW SONY, It's good u had darshan of Guru ji in your dreams and as sangat mentioned the messege in the dream was clear-cut. You were blessed with updesh (to read bani) as well as sikhiya (dat naam is above all maya...be it diamonds or pearls) in your dream. But i'd like to differ than sangat on the other point that you should not share your dream with others. Gupt Kaur ji also provided verses from Sri Guru Granth Sahib but in your case you are not blowing a trumpet and telling the entire sangat that you are blessed with darshan of guru maharaj instead you were just asking sangat for more interpretation of your dream. So it's all upto you to share it with others or not, there's no hard and fast rule. Thats my opinion Bhul Chuk Muaf

Take Amritsar bound bus from jalandhar ....mehta is one of the prime stops on this route. Even if you are driving from jalandhar to amritsar you are never gonna miss Mehta.

I sincerely think these Council of Khalistan guys are one of those few true servants of sikh panth but why are there no takers of their ideology? I think theirs' is the platform that can be relied upon to fresh-start the movement for the liberation of khalistan.

wish u get bore more often...lol.....thats so encouraging

Now you've got my attention. I wanna know! me 2 !! lool Try catchin em on ur own.....wud be gr8 fun i assure !!!!!!

Sometimes i ask myself why are sikhs stupid or too innocent or too naive that they believe whatever someone says and on contrary hardly believe the fellow sikhs. Do you guys know these are mostly false stories cooked up and posted by muslims just to create a false impression. Do you guys actually know there are one or two people posing as sikhs on this site as well who aint sikhs at all?

This is just the artists' impression of Guru Sahib. Might be true and might not be.

Fateh, Wanted to know when is london sikhi week being held this year or has it already been held. Boss site is down. Does anyone know about it? Thanks

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070812/ldh1.htm#10 Kidney patient needs help Tribune News Service Ludhiana, August 11 Gurjeet Kaur (27), who was diagnosed as suffering from chronic renal failure,is being treated at CMC hospital. The CMC management has issued an appeal for financial assistance keeping in mind her poor financial status. Gurjeet, who hails from Hoshiarpur, had miscarriage followed by excessive bleeding. This led to chronic renal failure. After being referred to CMC she has shown gradual but slow improvement. The bills towards her treatment stand at more than Rs 3.5 lakh and the family being poor could only manage one third of the amount after selling their property and borrowing from well wishers. The treatment needs to be continued to save her life. The hospital has urged public to help the poor family in their hour of crisis. All donations can be sent in form of cheques or demand drafts, made in favor of "CMC, Ludhiana Society" with "Treatment for Gurjeet Kaur" written on the back of the cheque/DD to Dr. Basant Pawar, HOD, Department of Nephrology, CMC.

http://www.panthic.org/news/129/ARTICLE/3463/2007-08-08.html Why We Shouldn't Celebrate India Independence (Op/Ed) Wednesday 8th of August 2007 Gurjeet Singh, Sikh Federation (UK) 15 August marks India’s Independence Day and prolongs the suffering of the Sikhs. We are clear about our nationhood, but it is denied by the Indian State and the Indian political class which are not prepared to allow us basic rights. Sikh sacrifices for freedom Prior to independence Sikhs were less than 1.5% of the population, but their contribution to the freedom struggle was immense. 77% of those sent to the gallows were Sikh as were 81% of those sentenced to life imprisonment. During the Quit India Movement many indiscriminate arrests were made and Sikhs contributed 70% of the total Punjabis arrested. More than 60% of the 20,000 who joined the Indian National Army were Sikhs. 100-150 million refugees resulted from partition in August 1947 with 40% of all Sikhs becoming refugees. Partition resulted in up to 2 million people being murdered and another 10-50 million being injured. Sikhs betrayed and promises broken India’s founding fathers gave numerous solemn promises that the Sikhs freedom and dignity would be safeguarded. Jawaharlal Nehru said that “the brave Sikhs of Punjab are entitled to special consideration. I see nothing wrong in an area set up in the north of India wherein the Sikhs can also experience the glow of freedom”. These promises were conveniently forgotten after independence and the Sikhs were dismissively told by the same Nehru that the “circumstances had now changed”. Sikhs have rejected India's Constitution Mahatma Gandhi and Nehru gave the Sikhs assurances that after India achieves political freedom no Constitution shall be framed by the majority community unless it is freely acceptable to the Sikhs. This promise was repeated throughout the period up to independence. When the Constitution was produced in 1950 it failed to deliver any safeguards or political rights for the Sikhs as a people or nation. The Sikhs therefore refused to sign the Constitution and have never accepted it. Article 25 even denies Sikhism, the fifth largest faith in the world, separate recognition as a religion – an affront that is widely seen as a deliberate act of suppression of the Sikhs. Demands for greater autonomy were dismissed The Indian authorities have systematically discriminated against the Sikhs since 1947 and subverted or suppressed all legitimate political demands for greater autonomy. The Anandpur Sahib Resolution of 1973 set out the basis on which the Sikhs were prepared to accept a political union within India, as a federal state. This demand for internal self-determination was pursued through decades of peaceful protest and attempts at negotiation with the central government. The demands were never seriously considered and given the history of the conflict between the Sikhs and India since 1984, this would now be too little too late. Gross violation of Sikh human rights In the last 30 years the Indian authorities have unleashed a rein of terror through gross violation of human rights of Sikhs in an attempt to extinguish the calls for freedom and Sikh independence. In June 1984 the Indian army attacked the Golden Temple Complex and 125 other Sikh Gurdwaras in Punjab and massacred tens of thousands of innocent Sikh pilgrims. This laid the foundation stone for an independent sovereign Sikh State, Khalistan. In November 1984 tens of thousands of innocent Sikhs were massacred in Delhi and over 130 other cities throughout India by well-orchestrated mobs under the direct supervision of senior Indian politicians and officials. Over 250,000 Sikhs have been murdered and disappeared since 1984. Many Sikh political prisoners still languish in Indian jails without charge or trial and others have been falsely charged and sentenced to death by hanging. Illegal detention and torture of Sikhs is common place and well documented by independent human rights organisations. Sikh nationhood and independence Sikhs first secured political power in the form of an independent state in 1710, after suffering centuries of foreign invasions and alien domination. The larger sovereign Sikh state was established in 1799 and was recognised by all the world powers. The Sikhs, after the two Anglo-Sikh wars, lost their kingdom and the Punjab came under British rule in 1849. However, in giving up power Sikhs were party to several Treaties with the British.

Another attempt of false propoganda and by depicting our 'hindu roots'

Hail the heroes. Can we draw some inspiration from these sikhs who risked everything including their precious lives for the sake of panth.

Why can't we take pride in being Khalistanis? Isn't that supposed to be the goal of our kaum. Many ppl ask me of my origin if i am an indian but i say i am a khalistani or an extremist, hardliner radical or seperatist even though i hold an indian passport i deny being an indian coz india means an enemy state to me and everytime i have to give a detailed explanation about khalistan and it's occupation but i am cool with it. I am proud of being a Khalistani and i explain the reasons to ppl . I feel deeply offended inside being called as an indian though it's okay being called a panjabi.

This page is too long so i've just posted one article here. Take time to visit the link below. http://www.searchsikhism.com/12.html For all of you who thought 12 o Clock is a joke for Sardar. I was standing at railway Station (New Delhi) when my attention went towards a Sikh youth standing near me wearing a Black turban having a long beard and wearing a kirpan over his shirt looking similar to a terrorist. After a while, one local train arrived, which was totally packed. The Sikh youth tried to alight the train but failed to do so. Just then a voice was heard from the back coach 'Sardarji Barah Baj gaye' (Sir it's 12 o'clock!) The Sikh youth looked over at that voice maker who was a young mischievous type of person and instead of showing any anger made a smile towards him. The smile made was so enigmatic that it seemed as if some type of truth lies behind it. Not able to resist my temptation, I walked towards him and asked why did he smile at that person who teased him. The Sikh youth replied, 'He was not teasing me but was asking for my Help'. I was surprised with these words and he told me that there was a big history behind that which one should know. I was eager to know the History and the Sikh youth narrated: During 17th Century, when Hindustan was ruled by Mughals, all the Hindu people were humiliated and were treated like animals. Mughals treated the Hindu women as there own property and were forcing all Hindus to accept Islam and even used to kill the people if they were refusing to accept. That time, our ninth Guru, Sri Guru Teg Bhadarji came forward, in response to a request of some Kashmir Pandits to fight against all these cruel activities. Guruji told the Mughal emperor that if he could succeed in converting him to Islam, all the Hindus would accept the same. But, if he failed, he should stop all those activities . The Mughal emperor happily agreed to that but even after lots of torture to Guruji and his fellow members he failed to convert him to Islam and Guruji along with his other four fellow members, were tortured and sacrificed their lives in Chandni Chowk. Since the Mughals were unable to convert them to Islam they were assassinated. Thus Guruji sacrificed his life for the protection of Hindu religion. Can anybody lay down his life and that too for the protection of another religion? This is the reason he is still remembered as "Hind Ki Chaddar", shield of India. For the sake of whom he had sacrificed his life, none of the them came forward to lift his body, fearing that they would also be assassinated. Seeing this incident our 10th Guruji, Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji (Son of Guru Teg Bahadarji) made a resolution that he would convert his followers to such human beings who would not be able to hide themselves and could be easily located in thousands. At the start, the Sikhs were very few in numbers as they were fighting against the Mughal emperors. At that time, Nadir Shah raided Delhi in the year 1739 and looted Hindustan and was carrying lot of Hindustan treasures and nearly 2200 Hindu women along with him. The news spread like a fire and was heard by Sardar Jassa Singh who was the Commander of the Sikh army at that time . He decided to attack Nadir Shah's Kafila on the same midnight. He did so and rescued all the Hindu women and they were safely sent to their homes. It didn't happen only once but thereafter whenever any Abdaalis or Iranis had attacked and looted Hindustan and were trying to carry the treasures and Hindu women along with them for selling them in Abdal markets, the Sikh army although fewer in numbers but were brave hearted and attacked them at midnight,12 O'clock and rescued women. After that time when there occurred a similar incidence, people started to contact the Sikh army for their help and Sikhs used to attack the raider's at Midnight, 12 O'clock. It continued and became a known fact that at midnight, nearly at 12 O'clock, it is very difficult to fight against Sikhs as the Sikhs get some Extra Power to save Religion, Nation and Humanity. Nobody can fight and win against them at midnight; this continues till now. Nowadays, these "smart people" and some Sikh enemies who are afraid of Sikhs, have spread these words that at 12 O'clock, the Sikhs go out of their senses. This historic fact was the reason which made me smile over that person as I thought that his Mother or Sister would be in trouble and wants my help and was reminding me by saying off 'Sardarji Barah Baj Gaye' As he was narrating the incident I was feeling ashamed of myself as I used to click and enjoy the jokes on Sikhs and too made fun of them. But now I have got the truth that these Sikhs are born for others and they are real patriotic to Humanity and Religion. What are we all doing to these great Saints and Soldiers ???? Instead of thanking them, we all are making fun. Earlier the Sikh youth appeared as a Terrorist but now I could see the reflection of real Patriotic person in him.

This is pure bull$h1t. A 'sikh' has no right to decide whether sikhism belongs to hinduism or not. Sikhism the ideology revealed through 10 gurus and no follower has the right on deciding about sikhism's ideology. The gurus' words and their plain rejection of hinduism or brahmanism speaks itself regarding the sikhism's view on hinduism. Every follower be it an enlightened one or an ignorant one is entitled to his/her views but they don't reflect sikhism's views. You better read the sikh scriptures and Gurus' way of life to get a better idea of sikh ideology rather than spreading your stupid typical RSS/ARYA SAMAJI filthy fundamental views.

Goodness me......sidhu looks a typical slave. Actually these are the type of 'sikhs' that Hindus and their politicians prefer : who are loyal to hindutva and bharat mata more than sikhi, aren't religious and who have no problem with sikh jokes. Once on the "The great indian laughter challenge" show his co-host Shekhar Suman asked him "do u ever feel offended by so many sardar jokes" he replied confidently "oh no, does moon get dirty if someone spits on it?" so Shekhar said " so do u think you are a moon" sidhu again replied confidently "oh yes" to this shekhar joked "i've seen a moon with beard for the first time" hinting on his appearence and soon the whole audience burst into laughter and he also joined the audience and laughed on himself like a stupid without even managing a sound reply. This <banned word filter activated> had been trusted and honoured by being sent to parliament by the voters of Guru ki nagri Amritsar and this is what he's doing....leading havans in the guru's city and making sikhs a source of jokes. There have been numerous occasions when the contestants in the show joke on sidhu and he simply has no problems and instead laughs on himself. Actually he's been a good and honest human and has actually genuine concen for welfare of people and aint a typical greedy politician but by joining BJP he has no choice but to act on the same agenda of hindutva which is totally anti sikh. He needs BJP and BJP needs him coz he's a almost a hindu in sikh disguise and has done wonders by delivering impressive speeches on stages. Sidhu has easily played the most influential role in Panjab politics in last 3 years. Did he not help akali-bjp in lok sabha (parliamentary) elections and help them sweep elections by winning 11 out of 13 seats. And now in recent panjab elections not only has he helped badal back into power but also helped BJP claim their best ever tally of seats in panjab parliament which led to bjp's demand for their seat of deputy cm coz if bjp withdraws support akalis govt woulfd fall flat. Sidhu has really proved to be a blessing for both BJP, Akalis and hindutva propoganda but we still don't have any influential personality to join the likes of mann, bittu and raise the voice for khalistan and genuine sikh issues and also educate the sikhs by reaching out to them. People there are always hugely impressed by celebrities no matter what they preach.

There r a few on youtube. Here's a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGa5Cw1Bxm8

Whatever the outcome, is these gursikhs' just gonna accept it as wageguru's will. But it's sad that we don't have any video or audio lecture of bhai hawara to inspire us in future. DEATH TO INDIAN GOVERNMENT. DOWN WITH WORLD'S LARGEST "DEMON-CRAZY"

waheguru!!!! sumone plz show this video to Inder Ghagga. hope he understands what's gur-kirpa.

Or else.......???? wat was the full messege

ਸਰਬ ਧਰਮ ਮਹਿ ਸ੍ਰੇਸਟ ਧਰਮੁ ॥ सरब धरम महि स्रेसट धरमु ॥ Sarab ḏẖaram meh sarėsat ḏẖaram. Of all religions, the best religion ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਕਰਮੁ ॥ हरि को नामु जपि निरमल करमु ॥ Har ko nām jap nirmal karam. is to chant the Name of the Lord and maintain pure conduct. ਸਗਲ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਮਹਿ ਊਤਮ ਕਿਰਿਆ ॥ सगल क्रिआ महि ऊतम किरिआ ॥ Sagal kir­ā meh ūṯam kiri­ā. Of all religious rituals, the most sublime ritual ਸਾਧਸੰਗਿ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਮਲੁ ਹਿਰਿਆ ॥ साधसंगि दुरमति मलु हिरिआ ॥ Sāḏẖsang ḏurmaṯ mal hiri­ā. is to erase the filth of the dirty mind in the Company of the Holy. ਸਗਲ ਉਦਮ ਮਹਿ ਉਦਮੁ ਭਲਾ ॥ सगल उदम महि उदमु भला ॥ Sagal uḏam meh uḏam bẖalā. Of all efforts, the best effort ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਹੁ ਜੀਅ ਸਦਾ ॥ हरि का नामु जपहु जीअ सदा ॥ Har kā nām japahu jī­a saḏā. is to chant the Name of the Lord in the heart, forever. ਸਗਲ ਬਾਨੀ ਮਹਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਬਾਨੀ ॥ सगल बानी महि अम्रित बानी ॥ Sagal bānī meh amriṯ bānī. Of all speech, the most ambrosial speech ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਜਸੁ ਸੁਨਿ ਰਸਨ ਬਖਾਨੀ ॥ हरि को जसु सुनि रसन बखानी ॥ Har ko jas sun rasan bakẖānī. is to hear the Lord's Praise and chant it with the tongue. ਸਗਲ ਥਾਨ ਤੇ ਓਹੁ ਊਤਮ ਥਾਨੁ ॥ सगल थान ते ओहु ऊतम थानु ॥ Sagal thān ṯė oh ūṯam thān. Of all places, the most sublime place, ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਹ ਘਟਿ ਵਸੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ॥੮॥੩॥ नानक जिह घटि वसै हरि नामु ॥८॥३॥ Nānak jih gẖat vasai har nām. ||8||3|| O Nanak, is that heart in which the Name of the Lord abides. ||8||3||

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070709/cth1.htm#12 Kidney patient hanging by thread Tribune News Service Chandigarh, July 8 Jaswinder is back in the hospital, this time in the intensive care unit (ICU) of the PGI, even as he was operated upon for a kidney transplant on April 20. In fact, 19-year-old Jaswinder had been fighting for life when he was admitted to Government Medical College and Hospital, Sector 32, Chandigarh, on July 2, 2006, after he complained of stomachache. Unable to meet the expenses of the treatment, his father Sohan Singh, a vegetable vendor, brought him back home and put him on self-medication. He had to stop attending his school where he had been studying in class XII. However, as his health deteriorated, Jaswinder was admitted to the PGI in January and subsequently with the help of donors his family was able to meet the expenses of his kidney transplant surgery. His mother donated the kidney to save the life of her son. “All our savings and the money that came in donations have been exhausted and I find it impossible to purchase costly medicines my son needed after the surgery,” lamented Sohan Singh. “I needed Rs 30,000 for three months of postoperative treatment of my son. As I could not arrange for the money, I decided to cut down on some of the medicines, putting the life of my son in danger,” rued Sohan Singh. But there is no other alternative, said the hapless father while sitting near the ICU. “I am feeling guilty, as I cannot give proper treatment to my ailing son. Now, only donations can help save the life of my son,” he added. The donors can contact the family at # 2041, Ram Darbar, Phase 2, or phone No. 9872865146.

Depressed??? :umm: @ Guru Sahib isn't like you and me bro. Did i write Guru Sahib got depressed? Read it again The only reason Guru sahib didn't feel the pain was coz he was way above everyone.He had jot of waheguru in him. Had it been anyone else wud have went into a state of shock or wud have geared up for a personal revenge.

The most amazing thing about Zafarnama apart from its poetry is the chardi kala of guru sahib. It was written at that turbulent time when all 4 sahibzade and mata gujar kaur ji had attained shaheedi and also 40 muktas attained shaheedi at chamkaur sahib garhi and guruji went to macchiwara barefooted in those chilly nights. But instead of getting depressed at losing his family and sikhs he was still in the most chardi kala and sent out that declaration of victory to Aurangzeb, the letter doesn't seem to be from a man who has nearly lost everything including almost all his family but from a man who has won a battle. Guruji said to auranzeb what if u have martyred my four sons , the khalsa is still alive. The zafarnama is an amazing piece of declaration and had amazing affect on aurangzeb and he passed away after nearly slipping into a state of depression after reading it, though he desired to meet guruji but guruji had went far too ahead towards south i guess and also aurangzeb had died after that.

Just want to add a quick point......aint there gramatical errors in gurbani writing for example in spellings of SATNAAM KARTA PURKH etc